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5/20 Discussion - Martin Havlat Expectations

I believe everyone can agree that the inaugural Martin Havlat campaign was a disappointment. 18 goals and 56 points are not acceptable numbers for a player who signed a six-year, $30 million deal and put up twenty-nine goals the year before. However, it looked like for most of the year we had two distinct Martin Havlats; the injury-plagued soft player and the PPG scorer. An oft-injured player, Havlat battled through some injuries early in the year before staying healthy. He also took a while to heat up as after a slow start and the trade for Latendresse, Havlat started to look like his old self by scoring 43 points in 49 games.

So with that said, what are your expectations for Martin Havlat next year?

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I'm expecting .75 PPG game out of him as is. That increases to around 1 PPG if he & Lats get to play with a 2nd line center.

Hopefully we won't be forced to watch him playing the point on PPs. I'd rather see him along the walls/out in front.

I don't have much else to add. Your post summed my general thoughts up well.

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I believe everyone can agree that the inaugural Martin Havlat campaign was a disappointment. 18 goals and 56 points are not acceptable numbers for a player who signed a six-year, $30 million deal and put up twenty-nine goals the year before. However, it looked like for most of the year we had two distinct Martin Havlats; the injury-plagued soft player and the PPG scorer. An oft-injured player, Havlat battled through some injuries early in the year before staying healthy. He also took a while to heat up as after a slow start and the trade for Latendresse, Havlat started to look like his old self by scoring 43 points in 49 games.

So with that said, what are your expectations for Martin Havlat next year?
with a solid center i would expect him to reach the 75-85 plateau

without 65-70

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With Wellman, Sheppard, Brodziak, etc. as center, 70 points. If we get a legit #2 centerman, then I expect 80-85 points. He and Lats might even be more productive than Koivu/Bruno; I guess it depends on who gets the better third player on their line.

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I'm expecting .75 PPG game out of him as is. That increases to around 1 PPG if he & Lats get to play with a 2nd line center.

Hopefully we won't be forced to watch him playing the point on PPs
. I'd rather see him along the walls/out in front.

I don't have much else to add. Your post summed my general thoughts up well.
Agreed. There's no reason to have him up on the point when he can create offense down low.

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Depends on his health/linemates/motivation.

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I think the near PPG player is closer to what we'll see. As lame and preposterous an excuse it is, I do think he struggled to adjust to things at the beginning of the year, but Latendresse' arrival saved his season.

I guess I'd like to see him be more assertive on ice, and take over a game once in a while. I do think he needs a gritty center though, Havlat to me is a guy who feeds off the time and space his linemates give him- look how well he played with Brodziak and Latendresse, or with Andrew Ladd and David Bolland the year prior.

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he'll put up an 80 point season next year if 1) he stays healthy and 2) his linemates stay healthy. Love the guy, he just needs help

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Havlat's career high is 77 pts ,,, I think some of you are getting a little too hopeful with your 80+ thoughts

Havlat if healthy and with a decent line = 25-30 goals + 40-45 assists

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My expectations are for near PPG play and about 25-30 goals. Big disappointment last year, and I wasn't impressed with his play even in the second half.

My guess is that he will continue to be underwhelming and post a 20-45 season next year.

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Havlat's career high is 77 pts ,,, I think some of you are getting a little too hopeful with your 80+ thoughts

Havlat if healthy and with a decent line = 25-30 goals + 40-45 assists
He'll get 80 pts and you blackhawks fans will like it and enjoy watching it

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Havlat's career high is 77 pts ,,, I think some of you are getting a little too hopeful with your 80+ thoughts

Havlat if healthy and with a decent line = 25-30 goals + 40-45 assists
Going to disagree. The only people who said he could put up 80 points said that it would take Havlat staying healthy and having help from his linemates. That's being more realistic about his ceiling than expecting him to put up those points. Obviously both of those factors are not guarantees as Havlat missed almost a year of games during his three year Chicago stint (while putting up a .93 PPG when healthy), but I don't think that's too much of a stretch to see him eclipse his career high by a whole three points; especially given he has a larger role in Minnesota than he did in Chicago.

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I expect Havlat to continue his great chemistry with Latendresse and will hopefully be able to score a PPG pace with a good 2nd line center, however, if it's Brodziak, I think we can see anywhere from 60-70 point range for him. Hopefully he can eclipse 30 goals next year if he starts shooting the puck a little more.

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Anything around 70 points for Havlat is great.

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Anything around 70 points for Havlat is great.

I wouldn't say great, but that's what I want out of him. If it's 30+ goals mixed in with those 70 pts that would be great.

The reason he's on the point is the same reason Jacques made Burns play forward...That isn't going to change unless we get someone who has a better mix of hands and speed. Not the ideal place for him, i totally agree.

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