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04-30-2010, 10:13 PM
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On the down side: Those penalties were deadly. the Pens also got a free pass blocking Halak's view during those PPs

The Pens actually blocked more shots than we did tonite. Then again we did outshoot them too

several guys did not have good games. Yes including AK. But Pleks and Pouliot were also pretty weak as well tonite. The whole team really lacked a lot of energy for obvious reasons. MAB played a lot more than he would have, but knocking him for that would not be fair, because . . .

losing Markov was a mental blow. The penalty and PP goal that followed the retaliation added insult to injury

On the plus side: it is just one game.

PK played well. I'm starting to wish now that they had brought the kid up a bit more in the regular season

A bit of animosity is brewing. I think the guys need that to get right back in P'burgh's face. Just no dumb penalties please

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04-30-2010, 10:14 PM
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What did Cherry say about Subban and Bobby Orr? Can someone please post it
http://hfboards.com/showpost.php?p=2...4&postcount=94

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04-30-2010, 10:15 PM
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I'm afraid that the Markov injury will affect our team's morale. Yet, let's hope we can regroup 'cause Fleury is just a goalie ready to be beaten.

Far from over. If we could have all guys pulling together, it would be great.

Spacek has to be ready. Can't live with MAB for a full game on D.
Great points, however on the first by saying it will affect the teams morale. Did you mean that in a positive or negative way? Personally, when I play hockey and one of the better players gets injured it just rev's me up that much more. I would like to think it would be the same effect to the Canadiens.

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04-30-2010, 10:16 PM
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Anyone find it surprising Halak refused to sit on the bench after he was pulled? I thought he was a "team player". A sign of "immaturity", right? If Price did that, he'd be crucified.
I've had it with your ********. If you like Price better, fine, whatever, but stop with these absolutely ridiculous character attacks on Halak.

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First, I'm a Sens fan and I come in peace.

The thing I noticed most is that Pitts really had Halak moving left-right-left tonight. The three games I watched with Washington, the play was more drive the net and hammer away at the puck. With Halak being so good at covering the bottom of the net that is a tough task.

To me this falls on the "D" (and forwards when they drop down low) to block these cross ice passes. Pitts must have had 10 one timers tonight and several missed opportunities.

Overall Halak played an OK game considering how things were transpiring in front of him.
Good point. On PK, I thought the forwards were playing too deep, thus allowing many options to the point men. 5 on 5, we were just too lazy or too tired in our zone. That's not how we played the Caps. We were pressuring them, staying close to them.

Tonight, the Pens were all by themselves on so many occasions, their cover man standing 10 feet away. That explains why we ended up with 3 players going for the puck. They just didn't trust each other.

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04-30-2010, 10:17 PM
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What did Cherry say about Subban and Bobby Orr? Can someone please post it
After PK made a one man rush, he got back in time to cover a Pens counter attack. First guy back. Cherry remarked that like Orr PK made a point of getting back on D first after a big rush

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04-30-2010, 10:19 PM
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You never know Price is still a better backup than most in the league heck he's better than MAF.
I totally agree with this. MAF is sooo overrated, my gosh, he lets in more soft goals than Price ever has. Carey Price's technique >>> MAF.

In fact, this season, Pittsburgh had to score like 5 goals in a lot of their wins because MAF let in 4 goals per game. If Price ever did that, he'd be shipped out ASAP.

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If we want to beat Pittsburgh we need to stay out of the box and get some shots to the net because Fleury doesn't look great.

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It almost looked like Markov saw Cooke coming and tried to hit him first.

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I've had it with your ********. If you like Price better, fine, whatever, but stop with these absolutely ridiculous character attacks on Halak.
Well, it's not exactly a good thing to do. If Price got pulled and then refused to sit on the bench after (and sulked in the locker room), there'd be 100 articles about Price's immaturity. We can't be making excuses for Halak!!! He's fair game.

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Well, it's not exactly a good thing to do. If Price got pulled and then refused to sit on the bench after (and sulked in the locker room), there'd be 100 articles about Price's immaturity. We can't be making excuses for Halak!!! He's fair game.
refused to sit on the bench ? where did you hear/see this ?

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Well, it's not exactly a good thing to do. If Price got pulled and then refused to sit on the bench after (and sulked in the locker room), there'd be 100 articles about Price's immaturity. We can't be making excuses for Halak!!! He's fair game.
The benches are very small at Mellon Arena; backup goalies sit in the runway to the dressing room on the side of the ice opposite the team benches. However, Halak was not in the runway either.

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Well, it's not exactly a good thing to do. If Price got pulled and then refused to sit on the bench after (and sulked in the locker room), there'd be 100 articles about Price's immaturity. We can't be making excuses for Halak!!! He's fair game.
THERE IS NO ROOM FOR THE BACKUP GOALIE ON THE BENCH IN PITTSBURGH.

Even in the Bell Centre the backup for the visiting team doesn't sit on the bench. It has absolutely nothing to do with Halak sulking or not being a team player. Unbelievable.

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04-30-2010, 10:27 PM
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Well, it's not exactly a good thing to do. If Price got pulled and then refused to sit on the bench after (and sulked in the locker room), there'd be 100 articles about Price's immaturity. We can't be making excuses for Halak!!! He's fair game.
There was no mention of Halak refusing to sit on the bench. There was only speculation by the announcers as to why he wasn't in the spot designated for the back up goalies.

Don't try and make something out of nothing here.

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04-30-2010, 10:28 PM
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THERE IS NO ROOM FOR THE BACKUP GOALIE ON THE BENCH IN PITTSBURGH.

Even in the Bell Centre the backup for the visiting team doesn't sit on the bench. It has absolutely nothing to do with Halak sulking or not being a team player. Unbelievable.
No, I meant he refused to sit on the bench for back-up goalies. Not the players' bench. i.e the place where Carey Price was sitting for 2 periods.

He just sulked in the locker room after he was pulled. CBC mentioned this.

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04-30-2010, 10:29 PM
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I do my best not to make excuses for the habs and if I make any mistakes, please point them out. Here are my thoughts on the game. I didnt see anything special out of the Penguins today, Halak was shaky...most likely due to the fact that he has faced around 150 shots in 8 days. The team seemed to run out of gas shortly after Subban scored his goal. Fleury is far from a solid goalie.

Things we do well:

- Chances, and we get so many of them. Gomez was so close with his empty net!
- We have arguably 2 of the better young goaltenders in this league. We need to start using them to fire up each-other (make them WANT to play to get the next game start).
- We take really good shots, we have great offensive lines who just need little sparks here and there (AK NEEDS to score!)
- We block shots like crazy, again we were tired and we just need to shape up, watch some film and get the lanes down.
- We never quit!

Things that need to change:

- MAB needs to be used on the PP and the PP exclusively
- We need to let Subban be PK Subban
- We need to let our players get creative and make some plays like we know they can
- Our PK just needs to plug some holes. After all they did face 38(?) penalty kills in 7 games, which is around 5-6 a game!
- We need to start playing as a team again, support, support, support. This wasn't the team that beat Washington

Pittsburgh:

- They were slow
- Goaltending was weak
- Defense was weak
- Made some very nice passes
- Got frustrated (look at Malkin's first penalty...we need to anger him)
- They are weaker then Washington...in my opinion by quite an amount, we just need to change a bit and we will be fine.

I think we can do it, do you?

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04-30-2010, 10:29 PM
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For next game:
Move Spacek back on left D

D Pairs

Gill, Josh
Hamrlik, O'Byrne
Spacek, Subban

MAB PP specialist

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04-30-2010, 10:32 PM
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For next game:
Move Spacek back on left D

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Gill, Josh
Hamrlik, O'Byrne
Spacek, Subban

MAB PP specialist
Isnt it time to end the MAB experiment?

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04-30-2010, 10:32 PM
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No, I meant he refused to sit on the bench for back-up goalies. Not the players' bench. i.e the place where Carey Price was sitting for 2 periods.

He just sulked in the locker room after he was pulled. CBC mentioned this.
No they didn't, they had no idea why he wasn't sitting there. They were speculating amongst themselves as to why he wasn't there.

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Was rooting for the Habs tonight. Sad to see you guys getting the same treatment against the cup defending champs like the Sens. On a brighter note, PK Subban looks to be a real gem for you guys for years to come, and I will still be rooting for the Habs to advance to round 3. Hope Markov is alright.

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04-30-2010, 10:37 PM
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Hello all,
I don't really post often or at all really, but with the miracle comeback in round 1, feel the need to chat about it with fellow Habbies.

Initial thoughts on Game 1, Habs look a bit drained, too be expected. I thought before the game started that Halak might have a rough game, he should be ready to go for Game 2 though.

Boys need to shoot more with traffic in front. It's not like Fleury is standing on his head, and hasn't been all playoffs. It seems sometimes they are looking for the perfect shot. Saw several players open in the slot and no one passed it to him.

Subban is playing great for a youngster in the playoffs, and kudos on his first goal.

Overall, considering how rested the Pens were and how emotionally and physically drained the Habs were, I still think the game is a positive. What was it, 4 PP goals? Improve the PK and watch the stupid penalties for next game and the score will be much closer. They can't allow the Pens to spread the PK box out so much.

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No they didn't, they had no idea why he wasn't sitting there. They were speculating amongst themselves as to why he wasn't there.
not to throw water on a blazing 87 scandal, but might it be a player security concern (fan taunting, etc.) in the hallway.

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Isnt it time to end the MAB experiment?
Nah. He's useful on the PP. Especially on the 5vs3 or 4vs3 powerplays.

At 5vs4, he has little time to take a good slapshot... that's why it didn't really work against Washington. But we'll see in this series against the pens.

And remember that he started the game as a forward tonight and finished the game as a dman to replace Markov. So, we shouldn't see as many of his defensive mistakes in the next games (since Spacek will play on D).

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There was no mention of Halak refusing to sit on the bench. There was only speculation by the announcers as to why he wasn't in the spot designated for the back up goalies.

Don't try and make something out of nothing here.
I think the coach might of sent him a message to just go to the room and take it easy. People are making a big deal out of it, let him rest.

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04-30-2010, 10:42 PM
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No, I meant he refused to sit on the bench for back-up goalies. Not the players' bench. i.e the place where Carey Price was sitting for 2 periods.

He just sulked in the locker room after he was pulled. CBC mentioned this
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Unless you were actually in that locker room while Halak was there then you don't know why he decided not sit on that runway. The announcers didn't say anything about him sulking, they were merely speculating as to why he wasn't sitting there. It could be for a variety of reasons. It's clear you're just desperately reaching for a reason to hate on the dude.

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