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Italy at the 2010 World Championship

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05-04-2010, 10:11 AM
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05-04-2010, 10:13 AM
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Anyone know why Thomas Larkin (Italian player drafted this year) isn't on the roster.

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05-04-2010, 10:17 AM
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Anyone know why Thomas Larkin (Italian player drafted this year) isn't on the roster.
Born in England, Raised in Italy, high school & college in US. American Father, Italian Mother.

He's all over the place.

Although he has represented Italy in other tournaments.

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05-04-2010, 10:19 AM
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Born in England, Raised in Italy, high school & college in US. American Father, Italian Mother.

He's all over the place.
He is also big and talented.

Maybe they don't want to rush him?

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05-04-2010, 10:20 AM
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I think that you have ONE chance to make a switch if you played junior for one team you could play internationally for another.

Kazakstani keeper Evgeni Nabokov even changed to playing for Russia even after having played a world championship (C division) for Kazakstan. But that is harder to do than when some one has just played for the junior team.
I think you have to wait five years or something. I'm pretty sure there was a German player who, despite being on the German roster, wasn't eligible to play for Germany because he player for Canada a few years back in international competition.

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Anyone know why Thomas Larkin (Italian player drafted this year) isn't on the roster.
probably wasnt good enough yet.Marco Insam( 4 years in OHL) didnt make it either

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05-04-2010, 12:44 PM
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Interesting. So even if you are an Italian citizen who was raised and plays in NA you wouldn't be eligible? That seems silly.
No you would not, and there is nothing silly about it. There's no point in having several teams full of Canadians. Those players serve no purpose.

In you have never played in Italy, you are only eligible if you're not a citizen of any other country (see Kölzig for a similar case).

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05-04-2010, 12:47 PM
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I'm not entirely sure how it works, but I believe you can represent another country internationally after representing Canada, but only if you have their permission.

For example, Hnat Domenichelli played for Canada at the 1996 WJC and then represented Switzerland at the Olympics this year.
No, you don't need their permission, you only need to play 4 seasons in that country's league system.

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05-04-2010, 02:43 PM
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Anyone know why Gabriella Ravani(G) isnt on the roster? I know he is a very strong goaltender, and that he would have been a great addition to this team if they wanted a chance to win some games. Whatever, he probably is recovering from an injury or a long season.

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No, you don't need their permission, you only need to play 4 seasons in that country's league system.
It's four seasons if you've previously represented another country, otherwise it's two.

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Anyone know why Gabriella Ravani(G) isnt on the roster? I know he is a very strong goaltender, and that he would have been a great addition to this team if they wanted a chance to win some games. Whatever, he probably is recovering from an injury or a long season.
wait is that the guy from the NHL series?

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It's four seasons if you've previously represented another country, otherwise it's two.
I don't think I implied otherwise

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wait is that the guy from the NHL series?
yes, he is. I remember I used to think that those players were all real people, not just made up.

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Larkin is eligible, he wasn't called for scolarship reasons I think

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Luca Sbisa was born in Italy but play for Swiss.

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yes, he is. I remember I used to think that those players were all real people, not just made up.
Wow, i had my heart set on getting a ravani jersey and cheering for him at all of italy's games.

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yes, he is. I remember I used to think that those players were all real people, not just made up.
awe so Ravani isint real

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That's disappointing. I remember Ravani was unreal and would always have like 40 saves against Team Canada in NHL 09.

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Larkin is eligible, he wasn't called for scolarship reasons I think
I'm not so sure on that. There were two players on the Netherlands team in the Division I tournament who are currently enrolled in US universities, both of whom are going back next year. I would think that Larkin might not have been good enough to beat out some of the Italians; after all, some of the Italian-Canadians have played minor pro in North America, and others have been all over Europe. Larkin will probably make the team eventually, but not just yet.

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That's disappointing. I remember Ravani was unreal and would always have like 40 saves against Team Canada in NHL 09.
haha he was awesome... italy will miss him........

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05-08-2010, 03:49 AM
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I'm not so sure on that. There were two players on the Netherlands team in the Division I tournament who are currently enrolled in US universities, both of whom are going back next year. I would think that Larkin might not have been good enough to beat out some of the Italians; after all, some of the Italian-Canadians have played minor pro in North America, and others have been all over Europe. Larkin will probably make the team eventually, but not just yet.
I agree. That Larkin has to be at the university was only given as an official reason by the Italian coach. We have some really good prospects in Italy, but nobody will play at this world championship. Marco Insam has played two seasons in the OHL, Anton Bernard is rumored to play next season with Boston College in the NCAA and his brother Andreas was last season the third goaltender of SaiPa (a team of the SM-Liiga). I don't believe that they are not yet good enough for our national team, they was better in the exhibition games as some players that are in the roster like De Bettin or Souza.

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Luongo and Team Italy?

*This has nothing to do with Canucks or Luongo's playoffs.*

If Luongo wanted to could he play for team Italy? Does he have duel citizenship?

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*This has nothing to do with Canucks or Luongo's playoffs.*

If Luongo wanted to could he play for team Italy? Does he have duel citizenship?
No, he could not.

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No, he could not.
Any reason why he can't?

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Any reason why he can't?
Because he has already represented Canada in an IIHF tournament. If he wanted to represent Italy in the future, he'd have to satisfy the following:

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* He is a citizen of the new country of his choice
* He has participated for at least four consecutive years in the national competitions of his new country, during which period he has neither transferred to another country nor played ice hockey within any other country and has not played for his previous country in an IIHF competition during this four year period.
* He has an international transfer card (ITC) that shows the transfer to the national competition of his new country and which was approved and dated at least four years before the start of the IIHF competition in which he wishes to participate.

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