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05-04-2010, 12:28 PM
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Markov could have easily avoid this injury. Either get out of the way or man up and put yourself in position to take the hit. It might sound harsh but this wasnt your unlucky injury type, it was a clean everyday hockey bodycheck.

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05-04-2010, 12:54 PM
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I won't disagree with you jcpenny...it's pretty tough to lose a guy for the rest of the playoffs on a pretty average hit.

Either Markov wasn't ready to take the hit or he's just unlucky.

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05-04-2010, 12:56 PM
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I won't disagree with you jcpenny...it's pretty tough to lose a guy for the rest of the playoffs on a pretty average hit.

Either Markov wasn't ready to take the hit or he's just unlucky.
dunno i think its unlucky. all this injury prone buisness is all **** talk by antichambre, atack a 5 BS. the russian agenda imo.

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05-04-2010, 01:25 PM
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HIO says the injury could be career threatening, they got it from Conor McKenna of the Team 990.

Its in Mike Bloone's Game Blog.

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05-04-2010, 01:31 PM
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I won't disagree with you jcpenny...it's pretty tough to lose a guy for the rest of the playoffs on a pretty average hit.

Either Markov wasn't ready to take the hit or he's just unlucky.
Just watched it again. Markov looks plenty ready for the hit. Cooke has a head of steam and Markov is either not as strong as Cooke, or does not have forward motion to counter the shoulder charge. Markov looks like he tries to hit Cooke as hard Cooke hit him, but it just doesn't have enough juice behind it.

Epic bad luck, pure and simple.

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HIO says the injury could be career threatening, they got it from Conor McKenna of the Team 990.

Its in Mike Bloone's Game Blog.
Well that can't be good....

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05-04-2010, 01:39 PM
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Just watched it again. Markov looks plenty ready for the hit. Cooke has a head of steam and Markov is either not as strong as Cooke, or does not have forward motion to counter the shoulder charge. Markov looks like he tries to hit Cooke as hard Cooke hit him, but it just doesn't have enough juice behind it.

Epic bad luck, pure and simple.
Last night I was watching La Zone and they were talking about PK Subban and one of the things they said (I think it was Eric Fichaud) is to watch the ability of PK to roll with the hit, lessen the impact of the hit/forecheck and use the momentum of the hit itself to come out with the puck. He said this is what impressed him the most because usually it takes a few years before a D-Man has this mastered. They showed clips of this, of PK doing this.

While watching the clips and the explanation, I immediately thought back to Markov, who frankly, no matter how amazing the guy is, he doesn't know how to take a hit.

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05-04-2010, 02:18 PM
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While watching the clips and the explanation, I immediately thought back to Markov, who frankly, no matter how amazing the guy is, he doesn't know how to take a hit.
I call cow patties on this. A guy plays in the league for a decade and takes and dishes out thousands of hits over the course of about 700 games. Then he gets injured twice over the course of a year and people start yapping about how he's injury prone and doesn't know how to take a hit. If you do something enough that brings a risk of injury, eventually you'll get injured. It's probably reducible to math.

Guys who play 750 NHL games without significant injury are the exceptions that prove the rule.

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05-04-2010, 02:27 PM
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He's really becoming injury prone. This is like 4 significant injuries in the last 4/5 years. Too bad.

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05-04-2010, 04:03 PM
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Just watched it again. Markov looks plenty ready for the hit. Cooke has a head of steam and Markov is either not as strong as Cooke, or does not have forward motion to counter the shoulder charge. Markov looks like he tries to hit Cooke as hard Cooke hit him, but it just doesn't have enough juice behind it.

Epic bad luck, pure and simple.
too many bad luck things that happen to Markov...

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05-04-2010, 04:11 PM
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Markov could have easily avoid this injury. Either get out of the way or man up and put yourself in position to take the hit. It might sound harsh but this wasnt your unlucky injury type, it was a clean everyday hockey bodycheck.
Injury prone is when you just get hurt(Gaborik,DP). Markov get's hurt by the unluckiest things, skate cut,leg get's jammed in the ice,etc.

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What is needed for this team to qualify for an emergency call up? Markov is obviously gone, and Spacek is out, so is another injury needed or what? Can someone clarify?

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05-04-2010, 04:50 PM
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Markov is elite-level talent... He should be able to re-habilitate himself from this and still be a very effective player..

But, thank god we have Subban to lessen the offensive blow.

It's becoming painfully obvious we need to get younger and more mobile on the blueline.. Markov is aging and his knees must just about be finished from all these injuries, Hamrlik is around for one more year (questions of how serviceable he will be are everywhere), and Spacek has 2 more years left again with questions of how serviceable he can be throughout those 2 years.

Our only 3 young bloods on the blueline are Subban, Gorges and O'Byrne... All of which play the right side. I would seriously consider signing a guy like Paul Martin, Dan Hamhuis to prop up the left side should Markov's injuries threaten his career.

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If Markov injury is truly career threatening (which would be a huge blow), let's spend our money on Volchenkov and pair him with Subban

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Markov is elite-level talent... He should be able to re-habilitate himself from this and still be a very effective player..

But, thank god we have Subban to lessen the offensive blow.

It's becoming painfully obvious we need to get younger and more mobile on the blueline.. Markov is aging and his knees must just about be finished from all these injuries, Hamrlik is around for one more year (questions of how serviceable he will be are everywhere), and Spacek has 2 more years left again with questions of how serviceable he can be throughout those 2 years.

Our only 3 young bloods on the blueline are Subban, Gorges and O'Byrne... All of which play the right side. I would seriously consider signing a guy like Paul Martin, Dan Hamhuis to prop up the left side should Markov's injuries threaten his career.
I'm on the Paul Martin bandwagon, Gauthier should definetely try to get this guy. But first get rid of Hamrlik and Spacek.

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05-05-2010, 11:09 AM
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Spacek was on the ice today at the optional skate

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What is needed for this team to qualify for an emergency call up? Markov is obviously gone, and Spacek is out, so is another injury needed or what? Can someone clarify?
Hamr-Subban
Gill-Gorges
MAB-OB

We're good to go.

I imagine if we lose one of these guys, I imagine we'll be aloud to call up a guy.

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Hamr-Subban
Gill-Gorges
MAB-OB

We're good to go.

I imagine if we lose one of these guys, I imagine we'll be aloud to call up a guy.
Maybe Gauthier can sign Fischer...

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05-07-2010, 12:34 PM
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Any news on Spacek, is he done for the playoffs even if we advance?

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05-07-2010, 12:37 PM
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Any news on Spacek, is he done for the playoffs even if we advance?
He was skating yesterday during the practice..so maybe he's feeling better.

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05-07-2010, 12:39 PM
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Any news on Spacek, is he done for the playoffs even if we advance?
He's day to day.

Whowe should we call up if another injury happen on the blueline?

Weber did well in playoff last year. Henry brings size... I think Carle is still out...

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He was skating yesterday during the practice..so maybe he's feeling better.
Missing Markov is pretty diabolical, but i think Spacek, the way he handled the caps would really come in handy right now. MAB isn't playing that badly, but I always come to the conclusion that he isn't playing badly until he starts to play badly...

I guess I should have more confidence in MAB, but I can't and I'd like to see a pairing of Spacek and O'byrne together, see if that lends to some more physicality, kinda...

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Missing Markov is pretty diabolical, but i think Spacek, the way he handled the caps would really come in handy right now. MAB isn't playing that badly, but I always come to the conclusion that he isn't playing badly until he starts to play badly...

I guess I should have more confidence in MAB, but I can't and I'd like to see a pairing of Spacek and O'byrne together, see if that lends to some more physicality, kinda...
MAB shouldnt be a regular on 5v5 that is sure

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He's day to day.

Whowe should we call up if another injury happen on the blueline?

Weber did well in playoff last year. Henry brings size... I think Carle is still out...
Weber is injured, he hasn't played any games in the 2nd round yet, although he's said to be day to day, he last played during game 6 of round 1.

Carle is still injured, was said to be out for the season but now they are saying it's possible he could return next round if the Dogs advance. But that seems unlikely at this point as I would think they wouldn't want to rush him since he's had a major injury in each of the last 3 seasons.

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I REALLY hope that when Spacek is back they don't pair him with Harm again. I know they've payed together all season but I'd go with:

Hamril (LH)-Subban(RH)
Gill(LH)-Gorges(LH)
Spacek(LH)-OB(RH)

Just seems to be better balanced and 3 strong lines. Besides, having Spacek with OB is MUCH better than MAB imo.

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