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05-05-2010, 09:06 PM
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Team Canada's defense in 2014

I don't know if there has already been a subject about this, but I'd like to discuss about Team Canada's potential defensemen for 2014. It's simply ridiculous to see how much talent there will be. I can't even imagine how could any other country stop us.

Sure spot :

Duncan Keith (30 years old) He has already been a 1st pair defenseman for Team Canada in 2010.
Brent Seabrook (29 years old) Experienced Olympics with Keith.
Drew Doughty (24 years old) He'll probably have won 3 Norris at that moment !
Tyler Myers (24 years old) Has shown amazing stuff during his rookie season

Will fight for a spot :

Zach Bogosian (23 years old) Strong slap shot with great size.
Luke Schenn (24 years old) Could be a great guy in short ended and plays a great physical game.
P.K. Subban (24 years old) Maybe second best skating ability among these guys behind Doughty. (maybe Keith)
Alex Pietrangelo (24 years old) Didn't see him play
Marc Staal (27 years old) Same kind of player as Seabrook and Schenn.
Cam Fowler (22 years old) Depending on how he develops.
Chris Pronger (39 years old) Do we still need him ?

Would you see any other contenders ?

What's sure is that with a defensive roster like that, you cannot be beaten. We also have to keep in mind that we'll have Crosby, Stamkos, Tavares, Getzlaf and others up front.

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I don't know if there has already been a subject about this, but I'd like to discuss about Team Canada's potential defensemen for 2014. It's simply ridiculous to see how much talent there will be. I can't even imagine how could any other country stop us.

Sure spot :

Duncan Keith (30 years old) He has already been a 1st pair defenseman for Team Canada in 2010.
Brent Seabrook (29 years old) Will he be good enough even if he plays well with Keith.
Drew Doughty (24 years old) He'll probably have won 3 Norris at that moment !
Tyler Myers (24 years old) Has shown amazing stuff during his rookie season

Will fight for a spot :

Zach Bogosian (23 years old) Strong slap shot with great size.
Luke Schenn (24 years old) Could be a great guy in short ended and plays a great physical game.
P.K. Subban (24 years old) Maybe second best skating ability among these guys behind Doughty. (maybe Keith)
Alex Pietrangelo (24 years old) Didn't see him play
Marc Staal (27 years old) Same kind of player as Seabrook and Schenn.
Cam Fowler (22 years old) Depending on how he develops.

Would you see any other contenders ?

What's sure is that with a defensive roster like that, you cannot be beaten. We also have to keep in mind that we'll have Crosby, Stamkos, Tavares, Getzlaf and others up front.
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Ummmm, Shea ****ing Weber anyone?

Edit: And Schenn =/= Staal =/= Seabrook

Double Edit: Just noticed this, Doughty > Subban > Keith skating-wise?


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How is weber not on this list? wow... and 2 americans

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Phaneuf and Bouwmeester have a chance if both can back to playing like they have in the past.

If Giordano continues to improve like he did this year he may have a chance to make the 2014 Canadian Olympic team.

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I wouldn't say Brent Seabrook is a sure spot, he should not have been on the team this year. What about M. Green?

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I'd edit that list ASAP.

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How is weber not on this list? wow... and 2 americans
To be fair Fowler was born in Windsor Ontario, so he is kinda Canadian

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HOMER VOTE ALERT. Maybe Cowen/Wiercoch can surprise some people but I highly doubt it.

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Keith - Doughty
Myers - Weber
Subban - Staal
Pietrangelo

That's my guess on D.

As for the rest

Hall-Crosby-Duchene
Staal-Getzlaf-Eberle
Kane-Stamkos-Giroux
Richards-Toews-Nash
Tavares

Ward
Fleury
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To be fair Fowler was born in Windsor Ontario, so he is kinda Canadian
But he moved to the US when he was young and has played for them on the international stage. :/

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Keith-Seabrook
Doughty-Myers
Weber-Green

I'm not good with pairings but I feel like those are gonna be the guys.

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Dion Phaneuf has a real good chance if he can regain his previous form over the next few seasons (which I believe he will).

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Mike Green will not be on the team.

We will also have 7 defenceman.

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I don't see Subban ever being better than Green at that style of game. Subban's going to have bring a lot more defense or else he'll just be a poor man's Green.

Therefore, any proposal with Subban over Green is very short sighted, if not naive.

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I don't see Subban ever being better than Green at that style of game. Subban's going to have bring a lot more defense or else he'll just be a poor man's Green.

Therefore, any proposal with Subban over Green is very short sighted, if not naive.
Not to be a homer, but PK is 20 and is already a better one-on-one defender than Green.

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I don't see Subban ever being better than Green at that style of game. Subban's going to have bring a lot more defense or else he'll just be a poor man's Green.

Therefore, any proposal with Subban over Green is very short sighted, if not naive.
Not to say he should be there over Green, but Subban has already shown he can play defense-first hockey.

His play has been anything but offensive minded so far these playoffs, and his maturity in his own zone is what's impressing people the most so far.

But obviously he's being touted over Green at the moment because of Green's no show these playoffs and his hot start in the NHL...Green is a fine player and should figure out how to play hockey at both ends of the ice pretty soon.

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Not to be a homer, but PK is 20 and is already a better one-on-one defender than Green.
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Not to say he should be there over Green, but Subban has already shown he can play defense-first hockey.

His play has been anything but offensive minded so far these playoffs, and his maturity in his own zone is what's impressing people the most so far.

But obviously he's being touted over Green at the moment because of Green's no show these playoffs and his hot start in the NHL...Green is a fine player and should figure out how to play hockey at both ends of the ice pretty soon.
I've been watching and, while Subban has been damn impressive, I am very hesitant to put him on a big pedestal so quickly. I think he'll be a great player but I don't think he's a guy you'd take as a shut down guy and as a pure offensive guy, I don't think he'll be better than Green. Who knows what the GM will want to look for and, even more unknown, is how everyone will be playing/developed by then.

I think we more or less agree though

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I don't see Subban ever being better than Green at that style of game. Subban's going to have bring a lot more defense or else he'll just be a poor man's Green.

Therefore, any proposal with Subban over Green is very short sighted, if not naive.
Poor man's Green?

Playoff stats

Mike Green
GP/Goals/Assists/Total Points/PIM
7 0 3 3 12

P.K. Subban
GP/Goals/Assists/Total Points/PIM
5 1 2 3 0

Screw the regular season.

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Poor man's Green?

Playoff stats

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GP/Goals/Assists/Total Points/PIM
7 0 3 3 1

P.K. Subban
GP/Goals/Assists/Total Points/PIM
5 1 2 3 0

Screw the regular season.
Oh look a highly selective 7 game sample size, how representative. Quickly, publish your super fast, super accurate stat technique, before someone else steals it! You could revolutionize the field!

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I don't see how we'll be any better off than any other year. Schenn was really disappointing this year, and probably should have been in the AHL. Bogo, like already mentioned, is American, and was even worse than Schenn. Some of the other guys all depend on how they adjust to complete season's in the NHL. They are by no means a sure thing. Even guys like Seabrook and Keith, whom I'll admit, I don't see often, don't seem to live up to the hype. So will we have an awesome defense? Of course. Will it be ridiculously better than any other? I doubt it.

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I've been watching and, while Subban has been damn impressive, I am very hesitant to put him on a big pedestal so quickly. I think he'll be a great player but I don't think he's a guy you'd take as a shut down guy and as a pure offensive guy, I don't think he'll be better than Green. Who knows what the GM will want to look for and, even more unknown, is how everyone will be playing/developed by then.

I think we more or less agree though
I agree that we should not put him on a pedestal just yet, but it is difficult to contain our excitement as Habs fans.

His offensive game is not near Green's, but I do see better progression in the defensive zone at the same age.

Who knows how either defenceman develops in the next 4 years. But to me Subban's personality combined with his work ethic makes him a perfect candidate as a 7th defenceman (if his development goes according to plan). We see how he is just thrown into this major role as a rookie and he's flourished. I'm not saying Green would not be capable of the same, but I think PK would be more than willing to embrace limited time on ice (if that is the case).

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I agree that we should not put him on a pedestal just yet, but it is difficult to contain our excitement as Habs fans.

His offensive game is not near Green's, but I do see better progression in the defensive zone at the same age.

Who knows how either defenceman develops in the next 4 years. But to me Subban's personality combined with his work ethic makes him a perfect candidate as a 7th defenceman (if his development goes according to plan). We see how he is just thrown into this major role as a rookie and he's flourished. I'm not saying Green would not be capable of the same, but I think PK would be more than willing to embrace limited time on ice (if that is the case).
That's a good point. Kid seems like a winner and also a guy you'd want to have a beer with. And I suppose it'd be hypocritical of me to criticize Subban after what has been said about Karlsson by us Sens fans haha. Enjoy him Habs fans!

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I know somebody is going to bump this in 4 years so I want to see how close I was.

Weber - Keith
Myers - Doughty

3 players that nobody would even think of being on the team at this time. I hope we have another Doughty in 2014.

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