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05-12-2010, 11:13 AM
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I'm doing a DEP in informatique at le centre de formation professionelle des Riverains, in Repentigny. It's pretty nice and well built.

It depends on what you want to do in the domain of informatique.

Cegep and University is for programmation.

DEP is for computer support and building servers.


With your DEP you get a bridge to Maisoneuve Cegep, so your technic is less long and you don't need the usual Cegep prérequis.
I bet your teachers told you that . Yes we do a lot of programming in CEGEP and Uni but we also learn a crapload of technical stuff that DEP will never teach anyone (after all it's 3 and 4 years versus 1 year). Before you actually get to play physically with a server you will need to either have experience or a lot of luck. Otherwise, you will need a DEC in network managing OR a job in a very small enterprise where you would be the IT guy. Most of the people I know with DEPs in computing ended up doing tech support over the phone. This sucks, a lot. However, there are big companies out there (like Bell) that are willing to give much, mucccch better jobs to ITs who only have a DEP so it's not all lost . Bell, for example, has given jobs to two of my friends and both of them are doing something much better than regular phone tech support and both of then are between 40k and 50k a year, which is quite good

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I agree. I started University at 21 after basically being a moron for a year in CEGEP and doing a 3 years in Computer Science at Vanier. That's a full two years behind some of my friends and I still might graduate at the same time as them.

It's not a race man, just find out what you really like to do then you're set.

When I had my internship/stage I wasn't paid but I got up everyday excited to go to work. I knew then I was in the right field.
True that. I started uni at 23 and will finish at like 28-29 (because I know I will fck up eventually and waste time so it will most likely take 6 years instead of 4 )

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05-12-2010, 11:17 AM
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I bet your teachers told you that . Yes we do a lot of programming in CEGEP and Uni but we also learn a crapload of technical stuff that DEP will never teach anyone (after all it's 3 and 4 years versus 1 year). Before you actually get to play physically with a server you will need to either have experience or a lot of luck. Otherwise, you will need a DEC in network managing OR a job in a very small enterprise where you would be the IT guy. Most of the people I know with DEPs in computing ended up doing tech support over the phone. This sucks, a lot. However, there are big companies out there (like Bell) that are willing to give much, mucccch better jobs to ITs who only have a DEP so it's not all lost . Bell, for example, has given jobs to two of my friends and both of them are doing something much better than regular phone tech support and both of then are between 40k and 50k a year, which is quite good
My program has been rebuilt. My server teacher used to work for bell has a high employee, plus he is one of the last banion tech in Quebec.The guy know is job and the school is getting a better reputation everyyear.

All the guys I know who did a DEP in formatique didnt ended up has a telephone technician, they ended up with better jobs.

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Relax,son,you're 19.

The most important thing is to find the field of work that makes you want to show up every day.

Signed,

A guy who finished his degree at age 44.
Congrats on going back, takes courage!

As for the rest, personally, for me, I'm 23 and i'm starting engineering. I regret every day that I should've been starting at 19 years old and done by now. It bothers me beyond belief. My program is 4 years and i'm so annoyed I'm going to summer school for 3 years full time just to finish in 3 years. I want to get a masters and it bothers me knowing when i'm done people will have more experience than me. It's not the end of the world, but for some people, including myself, knowing you had the chance to do something early but screwed up and took it easy is very disappointing.

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