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05-13-2004, 05:19 AM
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I've not seen the Tucker hit, but McLaren's one was awesome!

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05-13-2004, 05:19 AM
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OK, I didn't really want to jump in on this conversation about the Tucker hit. I have saved to my desktop, and have watched it many, many times. It is difficult to see exactly where Tucker's elbows are, but he clearly left his feet to deliver the hit, and that makes it illegal.

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05-13-2004, 06:18 AM
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That's funny, because I've seen the same hit, and I've seen the still photos, and he never elbowed him. His hands were indeed up- OVER Kapannen's head. Kapanen's concussion (and you'd be fooling yourself if you don't think he's honouring a Flyer tradition and just playing through one) actually came when his head hit the ice.

The site with the video is down, but here are the 2 pictures I've seen:





All you need to see:

http://hfboards.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1740

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05-13-2004, 08:37 AM
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I think the Tucker hit on Kapanen was the best of the playoffs, followed by the Komisarek hit on Thornton, and McLaren on Cjanek.

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05-13-2004, 09:33 AM
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The Kapanen Tucker hit was a penalty. It fits the definition of boarding perfectly. I would have likely given him a game for it too. Kapanen was injured in large part due to smacking his head against the boards. He did so because Tucker's hit. While I don't think it was dirty (i.e. intent to injure), I thought it was clearly boarding and should have been called.

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(a) A minor or major penalty, at the discretion of the Referee, based upon the degree of violence of the impact with the boards, shall be imposed on any player who checks an opponent in such a manner that causes the opponent to be thrown violently in the boards.

(b) When a major penalty is imposed under this Rule for a foul resulting in an injury to the face or head of an opponent, a game misconduct shall be imposed.

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05-13-2004, 09:37 AM
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I think the Tucker hit on Kapanen was the best of the playoffs, followed by the Komisarek hit on Thornton, and McLaren on Cjanek.
Didn't saw the McLaren hit, but I agree. Tucker is number one followed by Komisarek.

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05-13-2004, 10:23 AM
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That was not the best hit. That was the dirtiest hit. Horrible jump and elbow to the face. How can ANYONE call that a great hit? Tucker should have been suspended for that.

It's actually quite alarming, that people are calling such cheapshots a great hit. I guess someone has to die before people will start to realize what is the difference in clean hits and attempts to injure, and how they should react to those.

Clean hits rule, even if the target was injured. Leaving your feet and putting your hands up is not clean. And fans who dont have the guts to call it what it is are the main reason we see so many injuries. Players are there to entertain and perform, if the crowd cheers after such attrocities, naturally they will continue doing it.


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The Kapanen Tucker hit was a penalty. It fits the definition of boarding perfectly. I would have likely given him a game for it too. Kapanen was injured in large part due to smacking his head against the boards. He did so because Tucker's hit. While I don't think it was dirty (i.e. intent to injure), I thought it was clearly boarding and should have been called.

Rule 44 Boarding

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(b) When a major penalty is imposed under this Rule for a foul resulting in an injury to the face or head of an opponent, a game misconduct shall be imposed.
Not to mention charging as he left his feet before contact.

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05-13-2004, 11:17 AM
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That's funny, because I've seen the same hit, and I've seen the still photos, and he never elbowed him. His hands were indeed up- OVER Kapannen's head. Kapanen's concussion (and you'd be fooling yourself if you don't think he's honouring a Flyer tradition and just playing through one) actually came when his head hit the ice.

The site with the video is down, but here are the 2 pictures I've seen:



It amazes me that you try backing up your argument that it was a clean hit with two pictures that are 1)half way thru the hit and 2) after the hit is done. I suppose you'd say that Tucker did leave his feet when he hit Malakov the game before that one. Tucker is just a dirty player.

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05-13-2004, 11:21 AM
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Antropov on Roenick in game 5. You could see that Roenick had pain in his neck for the rest of the game
I personnally like the hit that Roenick pummeled Antropov with next to net, at least it was clean!

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05-13-2004, 11:35 AM
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I personnally like the hit that Roenick pummeled Antropov with next to net, at least it was clean!
Taking about ten strides and elbowing someone in the chest is clean, but the Tucker hit was dirty?

The Tucker hit on Kapanen was the best so far. Those claiming it was dirty would not be saying the same thing had it been someone on their team doing it to Tucker.

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05-13-2004, 11:38 AM
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The Tucker hit on Kapanen was the best so far. Those claiming it was dirty would not be saying the same thing had it been someone on their team doing it to Tucker.
No, they'd be saying it's just Tucker getting one back, what comes around goes around, etc.

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05-13-2004, 11:40 AM
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No, they'd be saying it's just Tucker getting one back, what comes around goes around, etc.
Exactly. Noone would be calling it a cheapshot.

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05-13-2004, 11:43 AM
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Exactly. Noone would be calling it a cheapshot.
Quite the opposite, they'd say it's probably a cheap shot, but considering that it was on Tucker, they don't have a problem with it. That is the point I was making.

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05-13-2004, 11:45 AM
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Quite the opposite, they'd say it's probably a cheap shot, but considering that it was on Tucker, they don't have a problem with it. That is the point I was making.
It would be the cleanest hit in history if someone did that to Tucker. Don't kid yourself.

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05-13-2004, 11:52 AM
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It would be the cleanest hit in history if someone did that to Tucker. Don't kid yourself.
If someone did a cheap shot on Tucker, I would admit so, because you live by the sword, you die by the sword and other "eye for an eye" cliches. Tucker knows he has a rep, and Tucker knows that someday someone might headhunt him. I wouldn't feel sorry for him the least, nor should anyone (assuming he didn't get some massive injury). He's knows what he's doing, and he should be able to take the repercussions as they come.

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05-13-2004, 11:53 AM
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Well, the question is not "what was the cleanest hit so far?"......

So, stop belly-aching

The tucker hit was the best hit, whether it was clean or not, and it doesn't matter.

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05-13-2004, 11:56 AM
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From a completely neutral standpoint I have to say the Tucker hit is by far and away the best hit of the playoffs. I wish the Philly fans would stop whining about it being a cheap shot. There was no penalty called on the play, no suspension handed after the play and Kapanen is still playing... get over it!

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05-13-2004, 12:08 PM
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From a completely neutral standpoint I have to say the Tucker hit is by far and away the best hit of the playoffs. I wish the Philly fans would stop whining about it being a cheap shot. There was no penalty called on the play, no suspension handed after the play and Kapanen is still playing... get over it!

Ya coming from a city which won 2 Stanley cups by illegal dirty filthy play.


I find this talk about cheap hits pretty funny

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05-13-2004, 12:09 PM
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Tucker had one skate on the ice when he made the hit. It would be dirty if TWO of his skates were off the ice when he made the hit.

The biggest complainers and homers on these boards are Philly fans.

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05-13-2004, 12:19 PM
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The Tucker hit is the best bar-none.

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05-13-2004, 12:20 PM
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This year, i would say Komisarek on Thornton

Stevens on Lindros is memorable
Good hit but healthy Thornton would've be able to take that hit without any problem...

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05-13-2004, 12:36 PM
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Well, the question is not "what was the cleanest hit so far?"......

So, stop belly-aching

The tucker hit was the best hit, whether it was clean or not, and it doesn't matter.
Well, in that case I can remember some Marchment hits that I thought were just awesome. The best hit this year would have to be Bertuzzi on Moore. He didn't even see it coming and broke his neck. What a hit!

I remember a time when good clean hockey was applauded and dirty plays were abhorred. I'm not trying to make the Tucker hit out to be the crime of the century, and hell it really isn't that big of a deal at all compared to some of the crap that goes on in the game. What I think is the bigger deal is the suprisingly large percentage of people justifying the borderline dirty play and actually celebrating it. When did hockey turn into professional wrestling?

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05-13-2004, 12:38 PM
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The Tucker hit on Kapanen was the best so far. Those claiming it was dirty would not be saying the same thing had it been someone on their team doing it to Tucker.
But Leaf fans would be calling it the crime of the century.

They still whine about Alfredsson's shoulder to shoulder hit on Tucker from two years ago. Imagine the outrage if someone actually did something dirty to Tucker!

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05-13-2004, 12:39 PM
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The hit was a little late, but Begin on Nylander from game 2? Or game 1? It's been a while.

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05-13-2004, 12:42 PM
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Well, in that case I can remember some Marchment hits that I thought were just awesome. The best hit this year would have to be Bertuzzi on Moore. He didn't even see it coming and broke his neck. What a hit!
Clearly that's not what I mean.......

the tucker hit's controversial, not because it was illegal, but because people don't know if it was illegal...

Therefore, it's not important whether it was technically legal or not, because it was a nice hit that could have been legal. No one has any conclusive evidence, so drop it.

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