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08-04-2011, 04:12 PM
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Snider demoted as well.
He can't seem to figure out major league pitching.

I'm not sure he ever will to be honest.

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Snider demoted as well.
Don't understand why. He's just going to mash in Las Vegas again. Let him sink or swim at the major league level.

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08-04-2011, 04:50 PM
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I remember the last time they called him up a few weeks ago, he had a great 1st game, yet Gregg Zaun went on TV and was convinced it wasn't going to last because his swing was virtually the same as it was early in the season despite all the hype he was a changed hitter with a new stance (I believe it was that). Zaun was right.

Snider is still only 23, so it's not over, but a change of scenery may be good for him.

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Good article on Dustin Ackley. Point 4 raised some eyebrows.

http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2011/8...-dustin-ackley

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Ackley is a stud in the making.

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08-04-2011, 05:03 PM
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Snider is still only 23, so it's not over, but a change of scenery may be good for him.
Yeah I can definitely see him being available, along with Hill, for 'the right price' type deals.

I think a change in hitting coach would be more appropriate for Snider to be honest.

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I know he's incredibly young for AA and it's a small sample size, but Bryce Harper is struggling there so far with a .648 OPS through 100 at-bats.

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08-05-2011, 05:44 PM
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Apparently BA see's Matt Moore having 70 FB, 70 CB and 70 CH.

HOLY. ****.

That is an insane tool box. 3 near plus-plus pitches is nuts.

Between him, Hellickson and Price, it's going to be a scary rotation for a long time for Tampa.

I'm not sure how long Shields is in Tampa, but if he's there, if he can be a #4 innings eater for the next little while, they are definitely on the fast track towards contending imo.

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08-07-2011, 09:48 PM
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Strasburg's rehab start at Hagerstown:

1.2IP, 3 hits, 0BB, 1ER, 4 K

Gave up a HR in 2nd inning. 31 pitches thrown, 25 for strikes. Was hitting 97 on the radar gun.

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^^ Nice.

Any idea what kind of pitches he used? Ie was there many, if any, breaking balls?

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^^ Nice.

Any idea what kind of pitches he used? Ie was there many, if any, breaking balls?
Sorry no idea, didnt get to see his start.

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08-08-2011, 12:12 AM
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Travis d'Arnaud should be a top 15 prospect.

The #'s hes putting up in double A for a catcher are freaking crazy.

Going into todays game -----

.324 batting average
.943 OPS
15 home runs
58 rbi's

I'd take him over Mesoraco going forward

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Travis d'Arnaud should be a top 15 prospect.

The #'s hes putting up in double A for a catcher are freaking crazy.

Going into todays game -----

.324 batting average
.943 OPS
15 home runs
58 rbi's

I'd take him over Mesoraco going forward

He's had a very good season and is right up there with Mesoraco as the 2nd best catching prospect in the game. D'Arnaud might be a bit better defensively but Mesoraco has more power.

Willin Rosario is a guy to watch. He was injured and has had a slightly down year so far. He could be better than both Mesoraco or D'Arnaud.

It'd be tough to rank D'Arnaud and Mesoraco in top-15. JMO but these are the guys that I'd rank above those 2:

hitters - Harper, Trout, Machado, Montero, Lawrie, Profar, Jennings
pitchers - Moore, Miller, Teheran, Perez, Taillon, Turner, Pomeranz, Martinez

That's 15 guys right there. I have a hard time seeing Mesoraco /D'Arnaud ranking above them. Then there are guys who are extremely close calls: Vizcaino, Myers and possibly couple more.

D'Arnad is definitely top-25 right now. He could sneak in top-15 depending on graduates. Turner, Jennings, Lawrie should all graduate. Montero could join them too.

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08-08-2011, 11:30 AM
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I think Shields might end up staying depending on what happens with Upton. It's going to be interesting to see who ends up in the starting rotation down the road, between Price, Shields, Niemann, Hellickson, Davis, Cobb and Moore. Then after that we've got guys like Archer and Torres who could contend for a spot a season or two later.

If Moore ends up challenging for a spot, I'd prefer to see Davis or Cobb dealt and whichever one that's left could be in the bullpen.

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I think Shields might end up staying depending on what happens with Upton. It's going to be interesting to see who ends up in the starting rotation down the road, between Price, Shields, Niemann, Hellickson, Davis, Cobb and Moore. Then after that we've got guys like Archer and Torres who could contend for a spot a season or two later.

If Moore ends up challenging for a spot, I'd prefer to see Davis or Cobb dealt and whichever one that's left could be in the bullpen.
I think you guys will trade Upton to the Nats if the Twins don't. Washinton is getting pretty desperate to find a CFer who can hit and play D from tidbits, and they have the prospects to trade for a guy like Upton to the Rays.

Moore will definitely not only challenge for a spot, but he'll definitely win one. The guy has the potential to be a top-5 pitcher in the MLB within the next 5 years.

Davis sucks ass.

Price-Shields-Hellickson-Moore-Niemann

That's your rotation next year imo.

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I think you guys will trade Upton to the Nats if the Twins don't. Washinton is getting pretty desperate to find a CFer who can hit and play D from tidbits, and they have the prospects to trade for a guy like Upton to the Rays.

Moore will definitely not only challenge for a spot, but he'll definitely win one. The guy has the potential to be a top-5 pitcher in the MLB within the next 5 years.

Davis sucks ass.

Price-Shields-Hellickson-Moore-Niemann

That's your rotation next year imo.

Davis is actually a far better pitcher than his numbers suggest. His problems usually come very early in games, but he's young and has a nice arsenal. I don't think he's too far away fro turning into the pitcher he can and should be.

I too think Moore will get a spot (I said "challenge" in case he cools down and finds himself battling with a Davis or Cobb for a spot), but with this team I never feel safe to guarantee anything. Niemann is also just as good as anyone on this staff when he's healthy and on his game. If he continues to pitch the way he has since coming off the DL, he won't be the number 5 no matter what team he starts 2012 with.

My guess is Price, Shields, Niemann, Hellickson, Moore.

Also, what do you think the Rays could land for Upton? The Nats have a good number of appealing players but I don't know who's available. I'd like at least 1 player already in the MLB.

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I've heard many say that the Indians were foolish to include Pomeranz in the Ubaldo deal. I know he is well thought of and a high pick but don't know much about him. Did the Rockies perhaps pick up a potential better Ubaldo Jimenez down the line? (not saying they pitch alike)

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He can't seem to figure out major league pitching.

I'm not sure he ever will to be honest.
I think it's more he's not been given a chance. When I say that I mean, the minute he struggles, he gets sent down. He's very inconsistent, and the only way you work at that, is to let him just play.

I mean if you want him to hit lefties, at least let him play against lefties

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Don't understand why. He's just going to mash in Las Vegas again. Let him sink or swim at the major league level.
Exactly.

I'd much rather him than Thames. Snider has worked very hard on his defense and running game.

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As for prospects, Dustin Ackley is ****ing awesome. I loved this pick so much by Seattle, now it's looking like it's gonna be a gem.

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Also, what do you think the Rays could land for Upton? The Nats have a good number of appealing players but I don't know who's available. I'd like at least 1 player already in the MLB.
My guess would be something like:

LHP Samuel Solis + 2B/SS Stephen Lombardozzi

It would give you 2 guys who have fairly high chance of making the majors and being solid but unspectacular contributions.

It'd be a decent return. You may be able to get a better pitching prospect, but it's not as bad as it sounds. Lombardozzi has a future in the middle infield, he's got no real holes in his games (may his K/BB ratio is a little off), so he's a good bet to solve your guys' middle INF issue.

Solis is a good lefty. Good K and BB rate's. His FIP is a little high, but with a bit of polish, he should be a nice #3 down the road who can eat innings imo.

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I've heard many say that the Indians were foolish to include Pomeranz in the Ubaldo deal. I know he is well thought of and a high pick but don't know much about him. Did the Rockies perhaps pick up a potential better Ubaldo Jimenez down the line? (not saying they pitch alike)
Pomeranz is a terrific prospect. He has some terrific ability and could be an ace in the future. So yes, they may have gotten a pitcher who will be better than Ubaldo down the road.

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I think it's more he's not been given a chance. When I say that I mean, the minute he struggles, he gets sent down. He's very inconsistent, and the only way you work at that, is to let him just play.

I mean if you want him to hit lefties, at least let him play against lefties
Chance or not, you have to agree in his ~900 MLB PA's, his ability to hit major league pitchers hasn't improved considerably that much. Ignoring lefties, he still strikes out at a horrid level, he walks at a similar horrid level. There has been no improvement from his minor stints in the majors from this year and last, and what makes it all more perplexing is the fact that in AAA this year, his walk and K rate are actually pretty ****ing good. (albeit in only 226 PA's.)

So I'm not sure what to think. Yes Vegas is a batters box, but a batters box shouldn't help you to walk more and strikeout less. Like it's an absurd differential between his minor and major league splits on those 2 things.


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The situation for Snider is not good at all. It seems he gets told completely different things then at the major league level. He gets sent down to work on his swing, absolutely tears the ball up, has a good walk percentage, cuts down on the kk's, and then comes up hot and does well, then begins to struggle. There is then no adjustment Murphy, and he gets sent back down again. It's literally that he has to prove himself every game, with little to no room for error, or he's back down. Who the hell handles a prospect like that? And not to mention one of your top prospects who was once projected to be your best hitter of the future?

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Looks like A's Sonny Gray is off to Midland (AA). Was always expected to move relatively quick. Could be with A's as early as mid season in 2012.



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His next start is slated for this Friday at High Class A Potomac. Nationals’ manager Davey Johnson told the Associated Press on Tuesday that his prized right-hand pitcher will throw 50 pitches or three innings and will make up to five total rehab starts before being back at the Major League level.


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1st rounders to have signed so far. I'll try and keep this updates as much as possible.

3. Ari: Trevor Bauer, rhp $3,400,000 - $3,000,000 (slot money)
10. SD: Cory Spangenberg, 2b $1,863,000 - $1,863,000 (slot money)
17. LAA: C.J. Cron, 1b $1,467,000 - $1,467,000 (slot money)
18. Oak: Sonny Gray, rhp $1,540,000 - $1,422,000 (slot money)
22. StL: Kolten Wong, 2b $1,300,000 - $1,287,000 (slot money)
28. Atl: Sean Gilmartin, lhp $1,134,000 - $1,134,000 (slot money)
29. SF: Joe Panik, ss $1,116,000 - $1,116,000 (slot money)
32. TB: Jake Hager, ss $963,000 - $954,000 (slot money)
33. Tex: Kevin Matthews, lhp $936,000 - $936,000 (slot money)



14/27 sanwich round picks have signed.

Yet to sign are:
Brian Goodwin - Nats
Henry Owens - Red Sox
Larry Greene - Phils
Jackie Bradley Jr - Red Sox
Tyler Goeddel - Rays
Andrew Chafin - D-backs
Michael Kelly - Padres
Travis Harrison - Twins
Dwight Smith - Jays
Brett Austin - Padres
Hudson Boyd - Twins
Kevin Comer - Jays
Grayson Garvin - Rays

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I really want Travis Harrison signed by the Twins, same with Boyd.

Both were expected tough signs.

EDIT TO ADD: Here is a database for reference for signings:

http://www.perfectgame.org/draft/signings.aspx


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I really want Travis Harrison signed by the Twins, same with Boyd.

Both were expected tough signs.

EDIT TO ADD: Here is a database for reference for signings:

http://www.perfectgame.org/draft/signings.aspx

Kendall Rogers is a guy who is now with PG, used to be with Yahoo. He covers college baseball and does a great job. For those on twitter and wanting to follow college baseball, he is your man.

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