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06-15-2010, 10:56 PM
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There is no such thing as an "AHL GM", or at least no NHL team employs one. Many teams have Assistant GM's allocated to running the minor league franchises, such as Kevin Prendergast, but he also worked with Tambellini on the NHL franchise and rubber stamped things for MacGregor on the scouting staff.
I believe that some teams do. I may be mistaken but the GM of Manitoba Moose is Craig Heisinger and I think he may have his home base in Manitoba with the team. I am pretty sure the Hershey Bears and other teams also have a fairly exclusive GM. Texas Stars have a GM etc...

Scott Howson was our farm team GM for a long time and lived and worked where the team was based. Until he was later promoted to assistant GM with the big club.

From various comments made. I get the sense that they do want a guy that is fairly exclusive to OKC. They said he would pick the coaching staff and the like.


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Scott Bonner is one of those guys that's GOING to get an NHL position, and isn't going to have to settle for a scouting position. He's a commodity, and let me tell you that Vancouver has been afraid of the day he gets called up.

There are not many good reasons to think he isn't the best choice for this position.
People also said the same thing about Steve Tambellini, but I know I'm not the only one who, after 2 years of watching him bumble about from indecision to indecision, would like a mulligan on hiring him.

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I believe that some teams do. I may be mistaken but the GM of Manitoba Moose is Craig Heisinger and I think he may have his home base in Manitoba with the team.
that's something of a different situation though because he was simply a holdover from the IHL Moose right?

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that's something of a different situation though because he was simply a holdover from the IHL Moose right?
Well I do not know. I think there are other examples of it. Not to mention apparently this is what the Oilers wanted to do. But it sounds like having to move to OKC full time has been a bit of stumbling block for some candidates. So apparently they might now be considering a back and forth commute for the new GM according to Jason Gregor. But apparently that was the Oil's plan, to get a full time GM that lives in OKC to manage the Barons.

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Wow. With that kind of star power name, heads are going to be turning to see what Edmonton has done.

I hope he is as good in the AHL as his record was in the E.
WHL. Laxdal will be the Oil Kings head coach. They're in the WHL and not affiliated with the Oilers.

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How long has Scott been in Vancouver?

The Giants have been a pretty decent club and clearly this would be the next step for a guy like Bonner. And while some may say this is sticking with the boys club at least Bonner has a pretty decent track record.

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Well I do not know. I think there are other examples of it. Not to mention apparently this is what the Oilers wanted to do. But it sounds like having to move to OKC full time has been a bit of stumbling block for some candidates. So apparently they might now be considering a back and forth commute for the new GM according to Jason Gregor. But apparently that was the Oil's plan, to get a full time GM that lives in OKC to manage the Barons.
Personally I would like my GM of any franchise to be close to the team. Wouldn't you? It would be nice to have a GM that is catching the majority of the games so that he actually knows what is happening and doesn't have to get second hand information from the coaches.

Is this maybe the problem we had with Springfield that KP wasn't spending enough time watching his team trying to help them out?

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Personally I would like my GM of any franchise to be close to the team. Wouldn't you? It would be nice to have a GM that is catching the majority of the games so that he actually knows what is happening and doesn't have to get second hand information from the coaches.

Is this maybe the problem we had with Springfield that KP wasn't spending enough time watching his team trying to help them out?
Yes. I personally think there is some extra value to be around the team and watching every game live. You get a feel for the team and it's needs IMO, that can not be replicated by watching the odd game after the fact on video or flying in only here and there to watch the team live. He would get face to face contact with the players and coaching staff, the chemistry in the room etc... on a day to day basis.

I think it is a good idea and I am hopeful that can happen. But it seems there is potential there, if they do not let the new GM commute rather than move. Then they might not get the best guy they want for the job. Time will tell and I hope that time is not much longer.

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Yes. I personally think there is some extra value to be around the team and watching every game live. You get a feel for the team and it's needs IMO, that can not be replicated by watching the odd game after the fact on video or flying in only here and there to watch the team live. He would get face to face contact with the players and coaching staff, the chemistry in the room etc... on a day to day basis.

I think it is a good idea and I am hopeful that can happen. But it seems there is potential there, if they do not let the new GM commute rather than move. Then they might not get the best guy they want for the job. Time will tell and I hope that time is not much longer.
That's the rumor according to Jason Gregor.

Scott Bonner is the guy, but wouldn't sign on as GM OKC, but would as AGM Oilers and travel to OKC during the season.

If that's what you have to do to get a guy like Bonner, you just do it.

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WHL. Laxdal will be the Oil Kings head coach. They're in the WHL and not affiliated with the Oilers.
They are affiliated with the Oilers.

They are owned by Rexall Sports, and run as its own division, but the GM reports to Kevin Lowe as President of Hockey Operations for Rexall Sports, which includes the Oil Kings.

Tambellini has no formal influence there, but Green reports to Lowe.

As an Oiler season ticket holder I get Oil King spam in my email all the time.


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Yes. I personally think there is some extra value to be around the team and watching every game live. You get a feel for the team and it's needs IMO, that can not be replicated by watching the odd game after the fact on video or flying in only here and there to watch the team live. He would get face to face contact with the players and coaching staff, the chemistry in the room etc... on a day to day basis.

I think it is a good idea and I am hopeful that can happen. But it seems there is potential there, if they do not let the new GM commute rather than move. Then they might not get the best guy they want for the job. Time will tell and I hope that time is not much longer.
Maybe my thinking is off here, but didn't the Oilers say they can't sign all the players they want but because there is no cap on management that they could over spend to get better management? Why not pay a premium for your AHL GM? 'm sure if you offer a guy another 50k or whatever he would really have to think about relocating.

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That's the rumor according to Jason Gregor.

Scott Bonner is the guy, but wouldn't sign on as GM OKC, but would as AGM Oilers and travel to OKC during the season.

If that's what you have to do to get a guy like Bonner, you just do it.
I wonder where he would be stationed out of.

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They are affiliated with the Oilers.

They are owned by Rexall Sports, and run as its own division, but the GM reports to Kevin Lowe as President of Hockey Operations for Rexall Sports, which includes the Oil Kings.

Tambellini has no formal influence there, but Green reports to Lowe.

As an Oiler season ticket holder I get Oil King spam in my email all the time.
Owned by the Oilers, not affiliated.

What I mean is why do people care if Laxdal is a good development coach or not. Who really cares, I'd rather have the Oil Kings win than produce NHLers. They don't go to the Oilers (except Abney, I suppose).

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Owned by the Oilers, not affiliated.

What I mean is why do people care if Laxdal is a good development coach or not. Who really cares, I'd rather have the Oil Kings win than produce NHLers. They don't go to the Oilers (except Abney, I suppose).
Well if the Oil Kings were a really good development team I would have to think that the Oilers would try get more of their assets to play there. In the end if the Oil Kings are winning they probably are producing some NHLers and if you have season tickets to the Oil Kings I would think that if you watched a kid for 4 years that you'd love to see him in the NHL.

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