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Group F • 05/18/10 • Switzerland 0, Sweden 5

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05-17-2010, 10:31 PM
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Group F • 05/18/10 • Switzerland 0, Sweden 5

2010 IIHF WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP | GROUP F
MAY 18 • 20:15 CET • 2:15 PM ET
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Live Summary

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SAP Arena, Mannheim, Germany

Switzerland
Official lineup.

Left WingCenterRight Wing
32 Ivo Rüthemann (A)
28 Martin Plüss
18 Thomas Déruns
25 Thibaut Monnet (A)
10 Andres Ambühl
96 Damien Brunner
9 Paul Savary
88 Kevin Romy
67 Romano Lemm
43 Morris Trachsler
30 Marcel Jenni
46 Paolo Duca
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Extra Forward:
37 Björn Christen

Left DefenseRight Defense
3 Julien Vauclair
31 Mathias Seger (C)
57 Goran Bezina
33 Steve Hirschi
90 Roman Josi
6 Timo Helbling
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13 Félicien Du Bois

Starting GoalieBackup Goalie
52 Tobias Stephan
26 Martin Gerber

ScratchedReason
G 79 Daniel Manzato
Healthy
L 22 Nino Niederreiter
Healthy

Sweden
Official lineup.

Left WingCenterRight Wing
91 Magnus P.-Svensson
9 Tony Mårtensson
26 Marcus Nilson
60 Mikael Backlund
22 Niklas Persson (A)
71 Jonas Andersson
23 Linus Omark
24 Johan Harju
20 Andreas Engqvist
92 Michael Nylander
51 Rickard Wallin (A)
12 Fredrik Pettersson

Left DefenseRight Defense
77 Victor Hedman
6 Magnus Johansson (C)
52 Jonathan Ericsson
65 Erik Karlsson
3 Oliver Ekman-Larsson
5 Christian Bäckman
11 Calle Gunnarsson
8 Sanny Lindström

Starting GoalieBackup Goalie
25 Jacob Markström
35 Anders Lindbäck

ScratchedReason
G 50 Jonas Gustavsson
Healthy
L 21 Jimmie Ericsson
Knee injury, out for tournament
R 80 Mattias Weinhandl
Post-concussion syndrome, out for tournament

Officials
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Vladimír BaluškaReferee
Tom LaaksonenReferee
Ivan DedidouliaLinesman
Miroslav ValachLinesman


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05-18-2010, 04:23 AM
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According to Aftonbladet, Markström will get the start in goal for Sweden.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/sportblade...icle7142179.ab

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According to Aftonbladet, Markström will get the start in goal for Sweden.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/sportblade...icle7142179.ab
I wonder how much le Monster would have to drink if there actually were people attending the games.

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I would`t be surprised Swedes losing on purpose if it helps them to get easier opponent for the quaterfinals.

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05-18-2010, 06:15 AM
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I would`t be surprised Swedes losing on purpose if it helps them to get easier opponent for the quaterfinals.
Similar to what the Finns did in the game against Sweden to avoid Canada/Russia in this year's olympics?

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I would`t be surprised Swedes losing on purpose if it helps them to get easier opponent for the quaterfinals.
So... if Sweden wins today, one of Switzerland or Denmark will be in the medal games, right?

HEJA SVERIGE!

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So... if Sweden wins today, one of Switzerland or Denmark will be in the medal games, right?

HEJA SVERIGE!

No, Germany can also reach seed Nr. 3, it depends on the afternoon game between SVK and GER.
If Slovakia wins, they'll be 4th, Denmark 3th.
If Germany wins, they'll be 3th Denmark 4th.

So there is really a reason to lose this game, at least I as a swiss would much rather face Denmark than Slovakia.

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Not sure Denmark is a much better matchup, they beat Slovakia 6-0.

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Sweden also lost at the 06 Olympics on purpose to get the Swiss in the quarters.
But that was probably worth it.

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Not sure Denmark is a much better matchup, they beat Slovakia 6-0.
I know, but I see more talent and skill in team Slovakia. The recent results maybe don't mean too much, if you look to other results:

SUI beats CAN
CAN beats NOR
but NOR beats SUI ??

DAN beats FIN
FIN beats GER
but GER beats DAN ??

LET beats NOR
NOR beats SUI
but SUI beats LET ??

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Let's say that I've been a lot more impressed by Denmark's play than by Slovakia's so far.

Anyway, let's just see what happens this afternoon.

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Starting goalie will be Tobias Stephan.

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Not sure Denmark is a much better matchup, they beat Slovakia 6-0.
Not to mention that winning the group means you won't face the Russians before the final.... that's more important than what team you play in the quarterfinal.

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I haven't got a clue what the Swiss fans who are starting to count points is going on about. There is nothing but good things that comes from winning this group.

Finishing 1st is best and in Sweden's case, it makes no difference if they play Slovakia, Denmark or Germany, they should beat any of those 3. I know this is the year of he upsets but it hasn't gone so far that either 3 of them looks scary. If I had to pick, I would select Slovakia.

The team that wins this group would also avoid Russia in a possible semifinal.

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I haven't got a clue what the Swiss fans who are starting to count points is going on about. There is nothing but good things that comes from winning this group.

Finishing 1st is best and in Sweden's case, it makes no difference if they play Slovakia, Denmark or Germany, they should beat any of those 3. I know this is the year of he upsets but it hasn't gone so far that either 3 of them looks scary. If I had to pick, I would select Slovakia.

The team that wins this group would also avoid Russia in a possible semifinal.
well, i think the reason is that for switzerland the semifinal would already be a big and surprising success. so all it takes it to win the quarterfinal game and therefore they want the easiest opponent.
switzerland is not sweden where a semifinal is nothing exciting anymore.

that being said i want a germany vs switzerland quarterfinal with a good rivalry going on, lots of atmosphere and hopefully an upset.
and if the swiss would win that would be a pretty nice thing too. so a win-win game.

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well, i think the reason is that for switzerland the semifinal would already be a big and surprising success. so all it takes it to win the quarterfinal game and therefore they want the easiest opponent.
switzerland is not sweden where a semifinal is nothing exciting anymore.

that being said i want a germany vs switzerland quarterfinal with a good rivalry going on, lots of atmosphere and hopefully an upset.
and if the swiss would win that would be a pretty nice thing too. so a win-win game.

Understood.

I guess I don't really see who would be easier than the other. Perhaps I'd like to avoid Germany because their the hometeam.

But the Swiss fans have seemed to be quite confident in their team. Just look at the poll for this game, Sweden is the underdog

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well, i think the reason is that for switzerland the semifinal would already be a big and surprising success. so all it takes it to win the quarterfinal game and therefore they want the easiest opponent.
switzerland is not sweden where a semifinal is nothing exciting anymore.

that being said i want a germany vs switzerland quarterfinal with a good rivalry going on, lots of atmosphere and hopefully an upset.
and if the swiss would win that would be a pretty nice thing too. so a win-win game.
Switzerland-Germany would be an awesome matchup. Heated, physical and a great atmosphere. Plus Switzerland should win this one

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Go Sweden! Game is on National television in Canada. HD on TSN!!!!!!

Prepare to get lit up like Swiss cheese Tobias!

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Looks like the winner takes on Denmark. Both teams are going full force for the win anyways, I predict.

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Not to mention that winning the group means you won't face the Russians before the final.... that's more important than what team you play in the quarterfinal.
Lets not forget that Finland wins the other group if they win tonight in regulation.

Either way, one of Denmark/Germany/Switzerland will make the semis

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Go Sweden! Game is on National television in Canada. HD on TSN!!!!!!
That really surprises me!
I thought they don't care about this tournament?!?

Ok, some Canada games, but SWE-SUI?? The most of them can't even distinguish these two countries

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Why are people so worried about who you play when? I mean, really, how many teams are gunning for Bronze?!?
If you want to win this thing, you have to play and beat the best teams, so just bring them on. Finishing anywhere from 2-8 is pretty irrelevant, as far as I'm concerned. Am I alone about having that opinion?

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Why are people so worried about who you play when? I mean, really, how many teams are gunning for Bronze?!?
If you want to win this thing, you have to play and beat the best teams, so just bring them on. Finishing anywhere from 2-8 is pretty irrelevant, as far as I'm concerned. Am I alone about having that opinion?
For the Swedes may finishing 8th or 3th is the same, but for Switzerland it would be historic if we win a medal.
That said, it doesn't really matter if we play Germany or Denmark, so let's beat these blondines

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For the Swedes may finishing 8th or 3th is the same, but for Switzerland it would be historic if we win a medal.
That said, it doesn't really matter if we play Germany or Denmark, so let's beat these blondines
Good luck with that!

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Why are people so worried about who you play when? I mean, really, how many teams are gunning for Bronze?!?
If you want to win this thing, you have to play and beat the best teams, so just bring them on. Finishing anywhere from 2-8 is pretty irrelevant, as far as I'm concerned. Am I alone about having that opinion?
Yes, you are all alone in the whole wide world with your opinion. But don't worry, that makes you special

Anyway, for Switzerland, Germany, Denmark or Norway winning bronze would be really big achievement. And I wouldn't say it's irrelevant for the top countries either. It's a big disappointment for any country to lose in the quarterfinal.

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