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05-18-2010, 11:35 PM
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fuuny, 99% of the time its a TOR fan trying to sell Kaberle by starting a thread stating how its Boston who is going to be desperatley persuing him.

dont peddle him like you are doing us a favor and we are beating down your door to get him.

and any call from Chia to Burke is going to be a 30 second recording of one of Edward's classic fright night laughs.

last time i checked the bruins still need a puck moving dman badly.

if anyone is crank calling it's burke to chia for giving up kessel to toronto, which is exactly who boston needed to not pull off the biggest choke in all of sports history.


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or does this make to much ****ing sense for the hf boards?

i bet it does.
wow spazz.

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Would any boston fans be willing to trade kreijci because they already have bergeron, savard and likely seguin.
I think it bears stating that the B's collapse coincided with Krejci's injury.

Was it entirely because he went down? No, the failure was a team-wide issue.

But he was a huge part of the team's offense, and without him they struggled to produce in 2 of the final 4 games, all of which were losses.

It's safe to say, IMHO, that Krejci's not going anywhere anytime soon.

And certainly not because the team has 2 veteran centers that have suffered serious concussions in the past 3 years & a rookie that hasn't even touched the ice in an NHL game yet. Colbourne and Hamill are more likely to be dealt (Hamill in particular) than any of the three regular centers that were in Boston this season.

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05-18-2010, 11:50 PM
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wow spazz.
wow, too much sense.

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absolutely ZERO interest in Hamill...and Ryder for that matter.

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Dear Toronto Fans,

Please stop starting threads with "Kaberle to Boston". Boston does not need or want him for you're asking price.

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05-19-2010, 12:01 AM
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[QUOTE=bb_fan;25896977] fuuny, 99% of the time its a TOR fan trying to sell Kaberle by starting a thread stating how its Boston who is going to be desperatley persuing him.

The reason being, everyone opinion on hfboards means exactly squat including yours and mines.

People talk around hear like they represent the orginazation. "we're not interested" "We wont do this deal" The facts are that boston was the top runner for kaberle so ovisially the majoridy of the trades would invovle him.

Contradiciting to what people think, ACCORDING to burke, he's not shopping kaberle.

I'm starting to believe that hf boards were made for dilusional fans that either think that trades on nhl 10 can be done in real life or people who want to pretend that they have a say with what goes on but in reality they don't

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05-19-2010, 12:08 AM
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funny because kaberle has still put up 50 points on a team that finished in 29th place with no offensive players that could finish the job up front and had his toi and play cut by ron wilson.

at 32 years old he is still in prime for a dman and has easily another 3-4 years before this so called decline that everyone blindly believes in.

maybe just maybe kaberle has not changed at all and the simple answer is the rest of the leaf team has been horrible for the last few seasons.

or does this make to much ****ing sense for the hf boards?

i bet it does.

Kaberly had a great October, but where was he iwhen the calendar rolled into 2010?

42 games 14 points, -9. Wow what a premiere player

How about after the olympics

21 games 3 points -6

The guy was a shadow of his former self the last 4 months of the year.

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Dear Toronto Fans,

Please stop starting threads with "Kaberle to Boston". Boston does not need or want him for you're asking price.
apparently your gm wants him, and after watching boston's craptacular performance in their last history making series it's clearly evident you still do need him quite badly.

so when pete calls toronto it's gonna be pony up time.

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apparently your gm wants him, and after watching boston's craptacular performance in their last history making series it's clearly evident you still do need him quite badly.

so when pete calls toronto it's gonna be pony up time.

thanks.
The last 2 trades between Boston and Toronto, The Bruins have managed to bend The Leafs over and take anything they wanted... If Boston makes another trade with Toronto this offseason, I expect more of the same.

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Kaberly had a great October, but where was he iwhen the calendar rolled into 2010?

42 games 14 points, -9. Wow what a premiere player

How about after the olympics

21 games 3 points -6

The guy was a shadow of his former self the last 4 months of the year.
When you lose four top 6 forwards and a decent 3rd liner in the span of something like 3 games, its not really the puckmover's fault that his production dried up. The Leafs essentially became a 1-dimensional offensive team with no cylce game (hence why our powerplay also stopped horking). Toronto had a crappy offensive group to start the year and Kaberle was at a .7ppg pace for most of 2009. Put him on a team with actual offensive talent and he'll be north of 60. GMs know that.

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wow, too much sense.
No sense whatsoever. Second day in a row your fellow fans have ridiculed you. Your posts are repetitive nonsense.

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The last 2 trades between Boston and Toronto, The Bruins have managed to bend The Leafs over and take anything they wanted... If Boston makes another trade with Toronto this offseason, I expect more of the same.

thanks.
bam bam good one

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How do you figure we fleeced you on Kessel? I mean you got a player and we have nothing yet. We can stop the dreaming of Edmonton not taking Hall. So we get Seguin or Fowler someone in the second round (probably not a Lucic), and ????? next year.How did we fleece Toronto? Someone explain please. ( oh ya no one knows what the player is going to to in the NHL). Yes, send Kaberle over. If i were the GM we would have had him last year.

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TO BOSTON

kaberle


TO TORONTO

wheeler
hamil
boston 1st 2010 (15th overall)


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Am I the only one who thinks this is far too much to give up for a guy with 1 year remaining on his contract?

Sure, Kaberle may be a nice fit in Boston, but at a price like that, I just don't see Chiarelli being interested. That is in the neighborhood of what it took Philly to get Pronger and far too much for Kaberle with 1 year left on his deal IMHO.

TO's 1st in 2011 is what I would offer, if that wasn't enough I would walk away and concentrate on getting more scoring on the wing.

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TO BOSTON

kaberle


TO TORONTO

wheeler
hamil
boston 1st 2010 (15th overall)


edit.
Sure?
for 1 year of Kaberle?


I would say... hey Brain, what can you add or I will take out the 1st

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chiarelli calls toronto knowing that burke is listening on offers for kaberle.....


chiarelli - "you know brian i really wanted kaberle and still need him, i hear he is available for the right package"

burke - "yeah well if you have not heard by now pete it's a player, prospect and a pick"

chiarelli - "well i have this guy named wheeler...."

burke - "pete, this guy is a risk. i like his size but none the less he skates and hits like a ballerina, 38 ****ing points this year pete! ....what else you got for me?"

chiarelli - "you said player, prospect and a pick right brian?"

burke - "you heard me the first time pete, yes that's the price. you still ****ing dizzy from your historical choke pete?"

chiarelli - "well yeah these guys ****ed it up pretty good wouldn't you say?"

burke - "well yeah you made history pete"

chiarelli - "alright brian everyone knows i robbed you out of an extra 1st pick from the kessel deal"

burke - "errrrr"

chiarelli - "and i have this prospect named hamil...."

burke - "kid looks pretty good pete but he is kind of small"

chiarelli - "i don't need him brian, i have this guy named seguin thanks to you guys tanking like the titanic remember? if edmonton is actually dumb enough not to take hall over him i can afford it."

burke - "errrrrrr, well yeah edmonton has been pretty dumb but they cannot be that ****ing dumb right?"

chiarelli - "tell you what brian i'll throw our 1st pick 2010 too if i take this fluff ball kaberle guy..."

burke - "errrr,.....done pete."



TO BOSTON

kaberle


TO TORONTO

wheeler
hamil
boston 1st 2010 (15th overall)


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Haha....Probably would get done.

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so if boston is so great why did wheeler not have more points then? apparently this guy was brought in to play with kessel when he was still in town.

toronto would be doing boston a favor taking him, hamil and a mid 1st would be compensation for taking a bust player with 38 points that went 5th overall.

boston has been looking for premier puck moving dman in kaberle specifically in the past and is probably still very much in the hunt, unfortunately for boston a slumping forward who has less points then our premier dman will not buy him straight up.

I just find it so comical that you feel that Toronto would be doing a favor for Boston by taking Wheeler off their hands. All we hear about is how incredible Bozak, Stalberg, and Kulemin are going to be when they mature...and they're all older than Wheeler. Kulemin (whom I actually like) actually had a less impressive season statistically than Wheeler this year, and we keep hearing how great he's going to be when he matures. How's that work? Wheeler is supposed to be a finished product and is now a bust, but Kulemin is just filled with potential? Seems confusing.

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apparently your gm wants him, and after watching boston's craptacular performance in their last history making series it's clearly evident you still do need him quite badly.

so when pete calls toronto it's gonna be pony up time.

thanks.
You're quite the troll. You made the thread asking for opinions so why don't you shut your piehole for 5 seconds and listen to them without arguing how badly Boston fans should like your proposal. We've watched Wheeler all year, and many of us (being Canadian and having a strict interest in the outcome of Leafs games this year) caught a hell of a lot of Kaberle. We know what he is as well, so you don't need to let us know.

Calling a sophomore player a bust is a bit disingenuous. He made more progress in other areas, and added much needed muscle to an already 6'5" frame. I'd consider this more of an adjustment year then anything personally, and as long as he doesn't pull a Kessel and demand more money then he's worth I'd like to see him resigned.

The Boston/Kaberle ship has sailed, unless you really believe the stunt Burke pulled on trade day last year had no affect on Chia's willingness to deal with him. And Boston was willing to do a deal with Toronto last year for Kaberle, but don't pretend that deal didn't have a second, perhaps even more valuable piece. Boston would have moved up to the #7 spot from 25th, at least that was Chia's intention. The removal of that 7th overall pick was a deal breaker (thank god), regardless of if Kaberle was still in the deal or not.

And you keep talking about the playoffs like we didn't watch it. Yes, it was a choke job and yes, changes need to be made. Believe it or not, Toronto isn't the only team in the league to deal with, and a package that includes essentially 3 first round talents could garner some major interest from teams looking to rebuild. Also, what's worse, making it to the second round of the playoffs and getting eliminated in historical fashion or trading away your first overall pick and coming in second to last place in the league? I know 2 other teams did the former, but I haven't heard of a team doing the latter other then Toronto.

End of the day, your proposal has Boston taking on a 32 year old UFA to be who is weak when it comes to coverage in his own zone but is one hell of a PMD (just don't wait for him to shoot the puck, because waiting for that is more frustrating then anything I've ever experienced), and all you want in return are two former top 10 picks that are in the midst of development and a #15 overall in a strong draft? Oh and they take on cap in the deal. No thanks.

I'd much rather have a guy like Seidenberg who can move the puck and play a solid game in his own end, because contrary to popular belief, Chara is more effective when he can cheat both Physically and offensively. He at times finds himself a step behind in his defensive coverage, which is why he is most effective when played with guys like Chris Phillips, Aaron Ward and Seidenberg, but less effective with guys like Wideman and Morris. Kaberle also makes a bad partner for Wideman, since even though Wideman is fairly solid in his own end he's smaller, and is often outmuscled around the boards. Boychuk could very well develop into the best option as a partner for Chara, as he has the tools to be rock solid in his own end.

Boston has Chara, Wideman, Hunwick and Ference signed going into next season. They need to sign Boychuk and Stuart... and hopefully Seidenberg. There's little room for one year of Thomas Kaberle.


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The Seidenberg trade all but dismissed the need to discuss any potential Kaberle to Boston deals, IMO. I think they'll get him signed very soon.

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kaberle + grabovski + stefanovich

for

Colbourne + Hamill + cap dump + 1st (whichever)

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Counter offer:

Colborne, Ryder, Boston's 1st 2010 (switch to Tor 1st 2011 if Kaberle can be extended at 5m per) for Kaberle and a mid level prospect winger.

Toronto then tanks 2011.
DONE!

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kaberle + grabovski + stefanovich

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Colbourne + Hamill + cap dump + 1st (whichever)
Why would we include a cap dump (most likely Ryder) just to turn around and take on Grabovski (who makes $2.9 mil for two more years)? Seems sort of counter-productive.

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i seriously doubt boston has interst in Kaberle. i'd think they would want forward help. they could get a damn good forward for that package.
the interest was probably greater when Wideman was struggling. Consiering the playoffs he had they have probably shifted their focus like you said.

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Somebody tell Burke that with 38 ****ing points Wheeler would have finished 3rd in Toronto team scoring last season.
Stajan has outscored him the past two years by a lot.

Grabo outscored him last year ans fell 3 points shy this year and he was BAD. Really inconsistent and missed a month of hockey due to injury!

So in other words WHEELER SUCKS!

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