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05-20-2010, 02:05 AM
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I was happy.

I was even happier to be at the game where they both scored hat tricks against the flames. .willl never forget it That's when I thought the trade was worth it.....


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05-20-2010, 02:00 PM
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I'm still pissed that the Kings traded Coffey and it's 2010. Most people assume Gretzky was the GM yet they traded one of his best friends who was having another great offensive season?
... From McNall's book "Fun While it Lasted", page 206:

"Gretzky took the loss hard. He had been moved by the extra effort, the sheer grit of his teammates. Watching them pull so close, only to lose, made him think about retiring. 'It's the hardest loss I've ever had', he told the press. He barely said a word to me in the locker room. But later I went to him and asked him to tell me what was bothering him.

'We could have won the whole thing if Paul [Coffey] was here', said Wayne, his voice clouded by anger. 'I believe this, Bruce, so don't try to talk me out of it. It would have been much different with Paul.'"

My views on the trading away of Coffey have always been the same as Gretzky's. By the time of the Stanley Cup Finals, almost all of the Kings' offense was created by their transition game, and NO one was better at that than Coffey was. On top of that, the players the Kings got for Coffey -- Jimmy Carson, Gary Shuchuk, and Marc Potvin -- were barely playing by the Finals. The Kings were, for all intents and purposes, a man short in the Finals; and considering they lost three games in the finals by one goal, that one man might have made some real difference. I don't think I'll ever get over that trade.

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05-20-2010, 02:44 PM
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I still rate the Paul Coffee trade as one of my top 5 worst deals in Kings History. At the time I thought that I must be missing something regarding the fall off of Carson's game (and his minimal resurgence) or that Gary S must be something special and we must really need another grinder or maybe we made the deal to make a better deal.

I found out I was right all along when we were obviously missing Paul during the entirety of his absence.

Hey Kings, you have one of the greatest scoring (not bad two way) defencemen of all time anchoring your blue line and providing you with a dimension to your game that no other team in the league has, what are you gonna do? Were going to Disneyland! (first stop fantasyland where hack droppings from other teams turn out to be amazingly talented players who are key components to winning a cup and can be had on the cheap!).

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05-20-2010, 03:01 PM
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You can all credit Nick Beverly:
http://articles.latimes.com/1993-01-..._wayne-gretzky
http://articles.latimes.com/1994-01-...1_jimmy-carson

Barry Melrose never liked Carson. When the Kings reacquired him, he had become lazy and indifferent.

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05-20-2010, 03:04 PM
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I literally sold my Carson 19 jersey the day that we lost in the playoffs and it was signed by him when he was a rookie. (ok, I should have kept for prosperity but I was younger and even dumber than I am today, which in itself seems hard to believe)

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I had to look the year up. I was likely pretty sad; bet you anything I was throwing a tantrum or had fallen down and bashed my head open.

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... From McNall's book "Fun While it Lasted", page 206:

"Gretzky took the loss hard. He had been moved by the extra effort, the sheer grit of his teammates. Watching them pull so close, only to lose, made him think about retiring. 'It's the hardest loss I've ever had', he told the press. He barely said a word to me in the locker room. But later I went to him and asked him to tell me what was bothering him.

'We could have won the whole thing if Paul [Coffey] was here', said Wayne, his voice clouded by anger. 'I believe this, Bruce, so don't try to talk me out of it. It would have been much different with Paul.'"

My views on the trading away of Coffey have always been the same as Gretzky's. By the time of the Stanley Cup Finals, almost all of the Kings' offense was created by their transition game, and NO one was better at that than Coffey was. On top of that, the players the Kings got for Coffey -- Jimmy Carson, Gary Shuchuk, and Marc Potvin -- were barely playing by the Finals. The Kings were, for all intents and purposes, a man short in the Finals; and considering they lost three games in the finals by one goal, that one man might have made some real difference. I don't think I'll ever get over that trade.
So do you think this was a power play by Melrose to get his 2 guys from the Red Wings?

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05-20-2010, 09:05 PM
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... From McNall's book "Fun While it Lasted", page 206:

"Gretzky took the loss hard. He had been moved by the extra effort, the sheer grit of his teammates. Watching them pull so close, only to lose, made him think about retiring. 'It's the hardest loss I've ever had', he told the press. He barely said a word to me in the locker room. But later I went to him and asked him to tell me what was bothering him.

'We could have won the whole thing if Paul [Coffey] was here', said Wayne, his voice clouded by anger. 'I believe this, Bruce, so don't try to talk me out of it. It would have been much different with Paul.'"

My views on the trading away of Coffey have always been the same as Gretzky's. By the time of the Stanley Cup Finals, almost all of the Kings' offense was created by their transition game, and NO one was better at that than Coffey was. On top of that, the players the Kings got for Coffey -- Jimmy Carson, Gary Shuchuk, and Marc Potvin -- were barely playing by the Finals. The Kings were, for all intents and purposes, a man short in the Finals; and considering they lost three games in the finals by one goal, that one man might have made some real difference. I don't think I'll ever get over that trade.
Jesus JT, it's bad enough we are lamenting about Nichols, you had to bring up possibly the worst trade in Kings history. Salt meet wound.

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05-20-2010, 09:34 PM
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Jesus JT, it's bad enough we are lamenting about Nichols, you had to bring up possibly the worst trade in Kings history. Salt meet wound.
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05-20-2010, 10:14 PM
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The Coffey trade sent me over the edge. Stupid, just F'en stupid.

And, oh yeah, F.... Marc Potvin. I'll leave the reason for PM's. But even Alex Zhitnik knows why!

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The Coffey trade sent me over the edge. Stupid, just F'en stupid.

And, oh yeah, F.... Marc Potvin. I'll leave the reason for PM's. But even Alex Zhitnik knows why!
I'd like to hear this story. Oh and Barry Melrose was a buffoon who liked having a roster full of sloths. Gone were Sandstrom, Robitaille, Sydor, Millen and Donnelly. Enter Phil Crowe, Marc Potvin, Troy Crowder and Barry Potomski. No wonder the team became a parody after 1993.

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i was devastated... along with some in and around my age group, that gaggle of Kings players were "our" boys - as opposed to the Triple Crown guys who basically belonged to our dads, and we grew up with them.

i learned to LOVE both Sandstrom and Granato, and Sandstrom eventually became one of my favorite players ever to wear a Kings sweater.

although there wasn't as much readily available information at the time compared to today - where we know just about everything that goes on with players, i later learned from a lot of older Kings fans that Bernie wasn't exactly a model citizen and had an enormously poor work ethic.
Truer words were never spoken. He had a long going affair with a friend of mine. I personally know this as I was sitting at the ice-oplex when they would meet up. She had a very nice collection of his hockey sticks that's for sure. I remember the day like yesterday.

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05-21-2010, 12:02 AM
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Truer words were never spoken. He had a long going affair with a friend of mine. I personally know this as I was sitting at the ice-oplex when they would meet up. She had a very nice collection of his hockey sticks that's for sure. I remember the day like yesterday.
So, did he run around the bedroom and do the pumpernickel after he...?

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I was young when all this went down. I didn't start caring too much about trades and all that until ~2000.

Up until then, I just flat out loved the Kings. Didn't follow off-ice affairs at all, but was still a diehard fan. It didn't matter to me who was on the team at all really.

However, the only trade that turned me off the team was losing McSorely. He was such a favorite of mine that I was heartbroken when we lost him. I actually stopped following the team for a year or so after that, because he was by far my favorite player.

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I was young when all this went down. I didn't start caring too much about trades and all that until ~2000.

Up until then, I just flat out loved the Kings. Didn't follow off-ice affairs at all, but was still a diehard fan. It didn't matter to me who was on the team at all really.

However, the only trade that turned me off the team was losing McSorely. He was such a favorite of mine that I was heartbroken when we lost him. I actually stopped following the team for a year or so after that, because he was by far my favorite player.
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I would have never pegged YOU for a wanna-be-ME!
Judging by my hair situation, I think it would take a little more than being a diehard fan for the full copy-cat to be in place

Oh wait...

Oooooh.

Or is it... pfft?

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I was actually very happy. I knew we were getting two very exciting players in Granato and Sandstrom. Bernie may have been a fan favorite but he was so damn slow!!!

I liked Bernie for his goal celebration. I loved that pumpernicholl. I'm still amazed that he scored 70 goals and 150 pts in a season.

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Bernie may have been a fan favorite but he was so damn slow!!!

I liked Bernie for his goal celebration. I loved that pumpernicholl. I'm still amazed that he scored 70 goals and 150 pts in a season.
I love it! 70 goals and some still complain!!

(in true pre-Cammy form. not that Cammy will ever approach 70 goals)

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I love it! 70 goals and some still complain!!

(in true pre-Cammy form. not that Cammy will ever approach 70 goals)
More of stating the fact than complaining, but thanks for sharing.

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So, did he run around the bedroom and do the pumpernickel after he...?
Some things are better left unsaid. He used to drive around in a medium blue jag. I'll never forget the look on his face when we were at the ice-o-plex and the three of us were sitting and talking and up walks my friends husband. He had the nerve to give him a signed hockey stick. It was surreal.

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Rumor was Bernie used to sleep with his sticks.

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Some things are better left unsaid. He used to drive around in a medium blue jag. I'll never forget the look on his face when we were at the ice-o-plex and the three of us were sitting and talking and up walks my friends husband. He had the nerve to give him a signed hockey stick. It was surreal.
So the "Pump-her Nicholl" was the only d-bag here? You should evaluate the character of those you choose as friends, Dooney. Does this female bud of yours charge by the hour/act, or might there be an adult film alias she goes by? Takes two to tango.

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Rumor was Bernie used to sleep with his sticks.
...and once in a while managed to score a hat trick! BOOM!

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So the "Pump-her Nicholl" was the only d-bag here? You should evaluate the character of those you choose as friends, Dooney. Does this female bud of yours charge by the hour/act, or might there be an adult film alias she goes by? Takes two to tango.
Women bare no responsibility for their actions, everybody knows that!

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So the "Pump-her Nicholl" was the only d-bag here? You should evaluate the character of those you choose as friends, Dooney. Does this female bud of yours charge by the hour/act, or might there be an adult film alias she goes by? Takes two to tango.


I call WATERFOWL! Like you are one to talk?!?

You ought to evalute the hockey team you support before coming on this board and bashing a friend of us all!

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