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05-22-2010, 11:24 AM
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The sad state of Swedish coaching

I am so feed up with the social Coaching by Swedish Coaches we have good teams in the WC juniors , Olympics and WC (even if it is the c-team) i am feed up can we please get north American Coaches how play the best players more and play hot players more.

This is a big problem because i feel that BS Coaching is stopping Sweden from winning at all levels of international play.

a perfect Swedish BÅG Coach how will be succeeded by the man how messed up the Junior team typical Swedish Social appointment.

Now that we fixed the junior system and the way they train, it is time to change Swedish Coaching!!!!!

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05-22-2010, 11:55 AM
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Truly one of the dumbest coaches to ever coach in the game.

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I don't think Marts is anywhere near as bad as BAG. Marts actually leaned on players who were producing relatively well, and he made some adjustments over the last two tournaments which was really helpful for Sweden. You can always say that you'd want better results, but considering the talent that's been coming out of North America lately (and that the tournaments have been played on small ice the last while), Sweden hasn't really done poorly at the Juniors.

BAG was way overdue for the boot though, I don't think there was anything that was redeemable about the guy. I even get pissed off at him because he has this character in his initials that I can't get on my keyboard!

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05-22-2010, 12:02 PM
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Of course. Just ignore the fact that BÅG is the only coach that has taken a national team to six consecutive semi-finals in the world championships. No other country has ever done that before.

Sweden was better than the Czechs today and should've put the game out of reach before the last five minutes. But to blame it on ONE damn timeout? Give me a break...

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Of course. Just ignore the fact that BÅG is the only coach that has taken a national team to six consecutive semi-finals in the world championships. No other country has ever done that before.

Sweden was better than the Czechs today and should've put the game out of reach before the last five minutes. But to blame it on ONE damn timeout? Give me a break...
Yes and ignore the fact that he had one of the best generation of hockey players ever to work with, the credit for that goes to others, not BÅG

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Sweden was better than the Czechs today and should've put the game out of reach before the last five minutes. But to blame it on ONE damn timeout? Give me a break...
Yes you can, one play changes everything in hockey and look at the end result.

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05-22-2010, 01:33 PM
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There's was nothing wrong with the timeout. This time the blame must be put on the players. They should have finished the game in 2nd period.

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BÅG is gone since this was his last game and all his coaching since and including the Olympics shows why. Not because of the timeout like some of you seem to insinuate.

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BAG won Olympic gold, how can you bash him so much. He has had his fair share of success.

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BAG won Olympic gold, how can you bash him so much. He has had his fair share of success.
It's only this year he has been beyond horrible, I don't think anyone is saying otherwise. And I'd say having these 2 guys on the team didn't hurt either.



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Yes and ignore the fact that he had one of the best generation of hockey players ever to work with, the credit for that goes to others, not BÅG
Couldn't agree more.

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Hear, hear. BÅG had the best swedish generation ever, and messed up several times. And yes, the game today was lost because of one, decisive play.

Finally we get a coach that hasn't his head up his ass. I hope you enjoy Arbetsförnedringen, BÅG.

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You are talking like the Swedish squad have been superior to every other nations. In 2006 both Canda and Russia had amazing players.
Sure BÅG has done some weird coaching, but his track record can't be denied.

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If only Latvia had such "bad" coaching. Not only our coaching staff is on amateur level, our Hockey Federation leadership consists of corrupt baboons, that aren't capable of saying "no" to a lame coach.

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If only Latvia had such "bad" coaching. Not only our coaching staff is on amateur level, our Hockey Federation leadership consists of corrupt baboons, that aren't capable of saying "no" to a lame coach.
I take snorlax or whatever his name is anyday over BÅG

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Player selection and line composition was little baffling for the Olympics. Samuelsson snubbed and then saddling the Sedins with One-Eyed Mattias Weinhandl.

Weinhandl has proved over the years that he cannot play in the NHL and on NHL sized rinks. His selection was a head scratcher.

And not having either Edler or Hedman as younger D to bring along was also surprising.

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Player selection and line composition was little baffling for the Olympics. Samuelsson snubbed and then saddling the Sedins with One-Eyed Mattias Weinhandl.

Weinhandl has proved over the years that he cannot play in the NHL and on NHL sized rinks. His selection was a head scratcher.

And not having either Edler or Hedman as younger D to bring along was also surprising.
regardless what people say, par marts will be an upgrade.

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I am so feed up with the social Coaching by Swedish Coaches we have good teams in the WC juniors , Olympics and WC (even if it is the c-team) i am feed up can we please get north American Coaches how play the best players more and play hot players more.

This is a big problem because i feel that BS Coaching is stopping Sweden from winning at all levels of international play.

a perfect Swedish BÅG Coach how will be succeeded by the man how messed up the Junior team typical Swedish Social appointment.

Now that we fixed the junior system and the way they train, it is time to change Swedish Coaching!!!!!
Excuses, excuses. And people say Canadians are the only ones who do that?

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Excuses, excuses. And people say Canadians are the only ones who do that?
what excuse? Swedish coaches are known for being stupid.

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Excuses, excuses. And people say Canadians are the only ones who do that?
It seems to be a valid criticism based upon what even observers from outside Sweden have noted.

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what excuse? Swedish coaches are known for being stupid.
The OP said the coaching is the reason why Sweden doesn't win; that's an excuse. If a Canadian used an excuse like that, most people would be quick to label them a whiner and a sore loser.

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It seems to be a valid criticism based upon what even observers from outside Sweden have noted.
exactly, our coach was criticized waaaay before this tournament.

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The OP said the coaching is the reason why Sweden doesn't win; that's an excuse. If a Canadian used an excuse like that, most people would be quick to label them a whiner and a sore loser.
the OP made valid remarks about our coach. He benched some of our best players, he used 2 worthless players in the shootout and he played grinders on the PP while our leading scorer sat on the bench.

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BÅG has been really bad for the entire time in the NT, I put the olympic gold more on the leadership of Lidas and Sundin then on BÅG. His childish attitude in interviews doesn't help either, hope he doesn't get a new coaching job anywhere...

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The OP said the coaching is the reason why Sweden doesn't win; that's an excuse. If a Canadian used an excuse like that, most people would be quick to label them a whiner and a sore loser.
It seems a valid criticism.

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exactly, our coach was criticized waaaay before this tournament.



the OP made valid remarks about our coach. He benched some of our best players, he used 2 worthless players in the shootout and he played grinders on the PP while our leading scorer sat on the bench.
Alright, that's cool. So saying it was unfair for Canada to lose in the 1998 Olympics is valid, too. In the semis, we outplayed the Czechs but the game still stayed tied. We ended up losing the shootout because Marc Crawford didn't choose Gretzky. Canada should have gone on to win that year.

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