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05-22-2010, 10:49 PM
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Edmonton/Phoenix Prospects trade

To Edmonton
Olivier Ekman Larsson





To Phoenix
Magnus Paajarvi Svensson






Is this a bad trade?

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why would either side do it?

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05-22-2010, 11:06 PM
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After I just read the other read of which players you would trade MPS for, I have to respectfully say no...I would trade him for Rask for sure and Alex P-Angelo but probably not for Carlson, Markstrom, or OEL...jmo

mostly b/c it's just tough to trade a top prospect that has never played a game w/o getting some serious certainty (i.e. Rask has shown this)...OEL has yet to play a game, Carlson, while good, imo MPS has more upside to be an impact player for our team, and Markstrom has shown he can get rattled by bad goals and traffic in front of him, not sure he might lose it with Byfuglien in his kitchen...obv that is just from what I have seen from him which is a very limited sample size

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05-22-2010, 11:30 PM
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why would either side do it?


Oilers do it if we select Hall.


Hall
Penner
MPS


Phoenix does it becaue they don't have a number 1 left winger for the future.


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05-22-2010, 11:38 PM
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I'll pass as an Oilers fan.

I'm perfectly fine with Gilbert/Whitney as our offensive defensemen moving forward. We need to get a premier shut down guy, which isn't Larsson.

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Phoenix obviously liked Ekman-Larsson better than Paajarvi.

And the Oilers almost certainly liked Paajarvi more than Ekman-Larsson.

I don't really think anything has happened that would make them change those opinions.

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05-22-2010, 11:39 PM
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Oilers do it if we select Hall.


Hall
Penner
MPS


Phoenix does it becaue they don't have a number 1 left winger for the future.
MPS can play either side.
Hall can play center.
Eberle can also play either wing.

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As an Oilers fan I'd probably do this. You could argue that OEL has the potential to be a superstar defenseman while MPS also has the potential to be a superstar left winger.

...and when you're probably going to draft another potential superstar left winger that has a greater chance of reaching his ceiling, you grab that defenseman the opportunity presents itself.

It would have less to do with MPS and more to do with Hall.

Left Winger + Defenseman > Two Left Wingers
Ovechkin + Doughty > Ovechkin + Kovalchuk

Just to be clear...I'm not saying OEL, MPS or Hall are or will ever be on the same level as Doughty, Ovechkin or Kovalchuk.

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I'll pass as an Oilers fan.

I'm perfectly fine with Gilbert/Whitney as our offensive defensemen moving forward. We need to get a premier shut down guy, which isn't Larsson.



What I would like to have is 3 offensive d-man,then the other 3 to be the shutdown,stay at home type of defenceman.

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As an Oilers fan I'd probably do this. You could argue that OEL has the potential to be a superstar defenseman while MPS also has the potential to be a superstar left winger.

...and when you're probably going to draft another potential superstar left winger that has a greater chance of reaching his ceiling, you grab that defenseman the opportunity presents itself.

It would have less to do with MPS and more to do with Hall.

Left Winger + Defenseman > Two Left Wingers

That's just my opinion.
Agreed, OEL would fit the Oilers needs to a T and he also has a similar upside to MPS. Now, i'm not saying that MPS is expendable per se but with Hall and Penner on the left side, i think that the Oilers would still be ok there and add OEL to the D and the Oilers automatically become a more balanced team. I also think that MPS would be a good fit for Phoenix since they could use more high end offense.

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05-22-2010, 11:53 PM
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unfortunately, there is a reason why blue-chip prospects who have never played a game in the NHL yet don't get traded...if you're wrong, it probably costs you your job, not too mention it's hard to sell the avg fan after you have been hyping a guy up for a year or so already

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I think Paajarvi's value is identical to OEL's. OEL reminds me of the defensive equivalent to Paajarvi.

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Phoenix obviously liked Ekman-Larsson better than Paajarvi.

And the Oilers almost certainly liked Paajarvi more than Ekman-Larsson.

I don't really think anything has happened that would make them change those opinions.
how do we know Oilers like Paajarvi more? Ekman-Larsson was well gone by the time the Oilers picked.

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As an Oilers fan I'd probably do this. You could argue that OEL has the potential to be a superstar defenseman while MPS also has the potential to be a superstar left winger.

...and when you're probably going to draft another potential superstar left winger that has a greater chance of reaching his ceiling, you grab that defenseman the opportunity presents itself.

It would have less to do with MPS and more to do with Hall.

Left Winger + Defenseman > Two Left Wingers
Ovechkin + Doughty > Ovechkin + Kovalchuk

Just to be clear...I'm not saying OEL, MPS or Hall are or will ever be on the same level as Doughty, Ovechkin or Kovalchuk.
Agreed, the Oilers forwards are looking good for the future as a group but we could really use a top end Dman. As much as I like MPS right now I'd make that trade.

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05-23-2010, 07:50 AM
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also alot of PHX d-men are getting older(JOVO,Yandle,Aucoin) and it doesnt look like Zbynek Michalk is coming back

OEL can step right into the line up and help on defence..... the trade doesnt make sense

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also alot of PHX d-men are getting older(JOVO,Yandle,Aucoin) and it doesnt look like Zbynek Michalk is coming back

OEL can step right into the line up and help on defence..... the trade doesnt make sense
Yandle is only 22 but Aucoin is definitely in his twilight years

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Yandle is only 22 but Aucoin is definitely in his twilight years
Yandle's actually 23 and will be 24 come training camp, but still you're right. He's young and Phoenix has a number of other defensive prospects. If Phoenix had wanted MPS they would have selected him instead.

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05-23-2010, 08:40 AM
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How about this:

Hemsky for OE Larsson and Radim Vbrata

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05-23-2010, 10:56 AM
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What I would like to have is 3 offensive d-man,then the other 3 to be the shutdown,stay at home type of defenceman.
And we have Petry/Chorney in the depth chart.

And I'm not even saying a pure shutdown stay at home guy. I'm thinking a solid 2 way guy who can play physical and can put up some decent points. (Someone like Alzner/Hamonic/Franson/Cowen who come at a much lower price tag that OEL).

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This is bad for both teams. As someone said earlier, Phoenix obviously wanted OEL and we're all but certain that Edmonton wanted MPS. Why swap now? Also, the Oilers have a relatively solid core of young defensemen including Ladislav Smid (who I think will be just a bit worse than OEL) and Gilbert.

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Hemsky for OE Larsson and Radim Vbrata
Now this I would do. I like Vrbata.

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05-23-2010, 11:16 AM
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For the people who say Paajarvi can play either wing do you really want another Eric Cole situation. I'd do Eberle for OEL but not Paajarvi.

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IMO this is a trade that would benefit both teams.

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This is a trade that Edmonton does in a second if they are smart.....Of course, this is all because they have the #1 pick.....


If they walked away from this summer with a potential star forward and a potential star dman, they would be in great shape for the future....


easy call for them....

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Phoenix drafted OEL instead of MPS and OEL has only enhanced his value since last year.

No knock on MPS but Ekman Larsson is a fantastic prospect - possible #1 dman.

No way Phoenix does this trade.

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