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05-24-2010, 07:46 PM
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Gogulla - Reportedly Heading Back to DEL

Hey guys, Leaf fan and team Germany fan here.

Phillip Gogulla is apparently going back to play in Germany next season. This news was pretty shocking to me and I don't understand why he is doing this.

http://www.eishockeynews.de/nachrich...richt_id=11673

Bang shortly after the end of the home World Cup! The financially ailing Cologne Sharks are apparently saved and can also immediately announce a spectacular transfer. According to information of ice hockey played Philp Gogulla NEWS (Photo: City Press) in the new season again for the Sharks.

The national player tried his luck in the last season in North America. With the Portland Pirates in the AHL Gogulla but was not happy and is now back in the cathedral city. Also, another new signing appears to fix: This is defender Brett Skinner, who last played for the Lake Erie Monsters of the AHL.

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wow.. guess his heart wasnt in north america; if this holds true

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Well. Put Gogulla on the list of guys they can put into trade this summer.

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that sucks. i thought theyve been grooming Gogulla nicely...and fairly, i really thought he was on track to get a look this year at 12/13F

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I guess I'm not too surprised. I was surprised when he came over to NA last year, and he was buried fairly far down the organizational depth chart. For someone that seemed to be an "NHL or bust" import, it makes sense that he'd go back to his comfort zone after a year of adversity.

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I've never been a fan so to me it's not a very big loss.

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It's another wasted draft pick.

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I've never been a fan so to me it's not a very big loss.
I'm with you. I don't think the ceiling was very high. Unfortunately, a 2nd round pick that goes by the wayside. It's up to Gragnani, Butler, Gerbe, and Generous to salvage that 2005 draft. And to think nobody had a better shot than us at Sidney Crosby that season.

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It's another wasted draft pick.
That's what I'm upset about.

And the fact this is far from the first time.....

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Another failed Sabres Euro draft pick.

The Sabres should trade his rights if they can.

I expect Dennis Persson will be gone after this upcoming season

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That's what I'm upset about.

And the fact this is far from the first time.....
Yes, 2nd rounders don't turn out all that frequently, but he was unrated by CSB when they took him in the 2nd round. I'd question what sort of interview process they went through if any when they made this pick. It was a real head-scratcher and it appears to have turned to ****, like the Zagrapan and Persson picks, the Jokinen and perhaps the Fienhage and Legault picks.

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Yes, 2nd rounders don't turn out all that frequently, but he was unrated by CSB when they took him in the 2nd round. I'd question what sort of interview process they went through if any when they made this pick. It was a real head-scratcher and it appears to have turned to ****, like the Zagrapan and Persson picks, the Jokinen and perhaps the Fienhage and Legault picks.
except Legault was a 7th rounder, not too big a deal. if i was going to reference things i was disappointed from later rounds from the Q, i'd bring up Allard first. sigh... i had such high hopes for him.

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except Legault was a 7th rounder, not too big a deal. if i was going to reference things i was disappointed from later rounds from the Q, i'd bring up Allard first. sigh... i had such high hopes for him.
For a guy they could have simply signed him after the draft as a 20-year old UFA? That was a dumb pick.

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Yes, 2nd rounders don't turn out all that frequently, but he was unrated by CSB when they took him in the 2nd round. I'd question what sort of interview process they went through if any when they made this pick. It was a real head-scratcher and it appears to have turned to ****, like the Zagrapan and Persson picks, the Jokinen and perhaps the Fienhage and Legault picks.


Corey Fienhage was ranked 36th of North American Skaters & was taken at 81
Justin Jokinen was ranked 54th of North American Skaters & was taken at 101
Maxime Legault was a 7th round pick who will likely play in Portland this upcoming season.
These players may not pan out in Buffalo, but why would these picks be head scratchers at the time?
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?fid=11451



Also Gogulla was ranked 37th of Euro skaters in 2005 & was taken 48th overall which proved to be a bad pick. Maybe you are thinking of Felix Schutz who was unranked.
http://cdn.nhl.com/futures/cssrankin...uroskaters.pdf


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For a guy they could have simply signed him after the draft as a 20-year old UFA? That was a dumb pick.
thats true, but its still a 7th rounder, so its not like Persson or Zagrapan. its a head scratcher we didnt just do that, unless we thought someone would sign Legault if we didnt use the 7th pick on him.

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He's better off out there, not my kinda player. But I'm hoping if all goes well I get to see him abroad sometime in a 2011-12 season.

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Lacks the drive and desire to amount to anything in the NHL. not surprised.

Schütz >> gogulla

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I always hoped that he had the heart and the patience to take the AHL-route , but to be honest, you could see that coming. Although i had some hopes and expectations especially considering next season, it won't be too much of a loss.

But let's also wait for a confirmation, so far there has been nothing but an online-article that said he is gone.

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Disappointing, Gogulla was a guy I personally was fairly high on as a Hecht or Zubrus-lite kinda player. I thought based on his age and experience he'd have a much stronger year in Portland than he did and be competing for a call up spot. Guess the writing was on the wall when he want back to Cologne that second time.

Even if Grags, Butler and Gerbe all turn out to be legitimate NHL players, this organization cannot keep getting nothing out of first and second round, premium picks. That's playing with dynamite.

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Meh, I was looking at him as a career AHLer/4th liner.

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Gogulla is a lot more talented than Schütz. Not being a 1st/2nd line player is hard for a guy like him who on top of that had to adjust to the smaller ice. So it might be lack of personality but not lack of talent. With Gogulla it is like this: Either give him big minutes and he'll be helping your NHL team soon or don't have him on the team at all. Therefore the way he's been treated in Portland I have to agree, You wasted a draft pick there.

Going back now makes sense for him financially.

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Gogulla is a lot more talented than Schütz. Not being a 1st/2nd line player is hard for a guy like him who on top of that had to adjust to the smaller ice. So it might be lack of personality but not lack of talent. With Gogulla it is like this: Either give him big minutes and he'll be helping your NHL team soon or don't have him on the team at all. Therefore the way he's been treated in Portland I have to agree, You wasted a draft pick there.

Going back now makes sense for him financially.
If he's not willing to put in the work to show that he's worth top line minutes, he isn't going to make it in the NHL.

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Gogulla is a lot more talented than Schütz. Not being a 1st/2nd line player is hard for a guy like him who on top of that had to adjust to the smaller ice. So it might be lack of personality but not lack of talent. With Gogulla it is like this: Either give him big minutes and he'll be helping your NHL team soon or don't have him on the team at all. Therefore the way he's been treated in Portland I have to agree, You wasted a draft pick there.

Going back now makes sense for him financially.

it doesn't work that way

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