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05-24-2010, 08:20 PM
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Lemaire's Rebuttal

I know this was posted in the offseason thread but I feel this deserves its own thread.

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Lemaire said he felt his relationship with Langenbrunner was fine.

“I thought it was good. I didn’t change. I never dealt differently with my captain this year than I did the last 15 years that I coached,” Lemaire said. “If I had something really special to say or I wanted some advice, I went straight to the captain. If I felt it wasn’t important, I’d go to another player.

“Some other coaches feel maybe captains should be more involved in all decisions. If I felt we should have a team meal and I didn’t think the guys wanted it, I’d try to sell it to the captain so he agrees and brings it to the players. But I don’t think any captain should be involved in everything. If I wanted to know if the guys felt they needed a practice or not, sometimes I went to Jamie. Other times I went to Rolie (Brian Rolston) or Patrik (Elias) or Marty (Brodeur).”
http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/2...acques_le.html

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Langs, Rolie, Patrik, Marty.

One of these four isn't like the others...

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did Ben Stein write this article?

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05-24-2010, 08:32 PM
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But the coach defended his habit of constantly juggling line combinations
You just can't defend idiocy like that. Especially when the team was struggling to score, there was zero reason to break up lines that showed consistency and chemistry. There are no excuses for breaking up the Z-Z-Z line. None. Admit that your line juggling was a failure in every sense of the word, or don't say anything at all.

Oh, and don't even make me bring up some of those dumbass line combos he'd use in practice. You think practicing with lines that would never be together in a game helps a team going into the playoffs?

Then again, heh, White on the PP. Speaks volumes.

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05-24-2010, 08:32 PM
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lol, I like the petty shot. he gets his word, that's fine, but our astute hockey writers, when he was going off about how brilliant he is... they should have asked him why his system was predicated on stretch passing, involving Dmen, who for the most part, move the puck like it's a grenade with the pin out.

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Langs, Rolie, Patrik, Marty.

One of these four isn't like the others...
Patrik for being European... what do I win?

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05-24-2010, 08:33 PM
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Lemaire deflecting blame onto the players to make himself look better. Can't say I'm surprised.

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Ill say it again:

I can understand what JL was saying and granted with the success he has had in his career maybe he doesn't need to defend himself. I just think he was not cut out to coach this team the way it was built. The first time around in NJ, the D was the strength and he did the job. In Min, he did the best he had with basically one star forward and a bunch of lunch pail types front and back. As is turned out he wasn't the guy to coach a forward heavy team. And for him to downplay the line juggling by citing Bowman's coaching as an example is a cop out. He took it to new heights. That he couldn't see that it wasn't working once the slump started just boggles the mind. Guys would have success on a line for 2 or 3 games and he would then break them up. I have no idea what he was thinking., none us do.

Maybe players should have just shut up and played, but his decisions got in the way of that also. I don't think chemistry is overrated. Remember that streak last season when Jaime scored 2 goals for 3 games in a row, including the game tying and winning goals in a couple of those? I don't think that Jaime just disappeared from one season to another. Or Parise drop in goals? Was that a product of him having a "down year" or not being able to play consistently with any line mates. I'm sorry, but JL thanks for '95 but for '09-'10, you can go to hell.

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I don’t see why we would be so special that we don’t have to match lines,” Lemaire said.
Because Glidermayer was on our checking line, JL. When you have very very good two-way players like Parise, Zajac, Elias, etc in your top-6, there's no reason to line match. Strength vs strength. Or do you think Parise's line isn't capable of going against another top line?

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05-24-2010, 08:39 PM
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Thanks for posting this, I avoid mega-threads.

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You just can't defend idiocy like that. Especially when the team was struggling to score, there was zero reason to break up lines that showed consistency and chemistry. There are no excuses for breaking up the Z-Z-Z line. None. Admit that your line juggling was a failure in every sense of the word, or don't say anything at all.

Oh, and don't even make me bring up some of those dumbass line combos he'd use in practice. You think practicing with lines that would never be together in a game helps a team going into the playoffs?

Then again, heh, White on the PP. Speaks volumes.
This, this, this, and this to the umpth degree.

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05-24-2010, 10:25 PM
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Now this is just getting overblown. I honestly don't care.

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Langs, Rolie, Patrik, Marty.

One of these four isn't like the others...
Marty isn't a forward.

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does marty have any movement/trade clauses?

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Langs, Rolie, Patrik, Marty.

One of these four isn't like the others...
Patrik and Marty are first names which also means you can't count.

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does marty have any movement/trade clauses?
Does it matter?

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Does it matter?
well i know the others do, i was just looking for THE difference.....

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The difference is that Rolston isn't a team leader. The other three are.

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05-25-2010, 09:18 AM
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One is a goalie?
One is czech?
One is canadian?
One is a righty?
One wears an odd number?
The number of syllables in one name (first and last) cannot be counted on one hand?
One has a cup with more than 1 franchise?
One was not on the team in 2003?
One was not part of the organization during the 99-2000 season?
One winks at the camera during interviews?

Am I right...somewhere?

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The difference is that Rolston isn't a team leader. The other three are.
Wearing the C doesn't make you a leader.

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Wearing the C doesn't make you a leader.
He used to be, though. The point is it makes little sense for Lemaire to consult Rolston about the team mood, when that's something the captain or one of the alternates should know.

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Wearing the C doesn't make you a leader.
O snap!

The struggle between Lemaire and the players cost the team and its fans a playoff run. Lemaire is gone and quite frankly, some of the personnel have to pay the price.

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He used to be, though. The point is it makes little sense for Lemaire to consult Rolston about the team mood, when that's something the captain or one of the alternates should know.

Why wouldn't he want to consult with a guy he's worked with more than any other player on the team? He probably knows how Rolston thinks and could get a better read of what's going on even if the player doesn't tell him directly.

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