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05-24-2010, 10:25 PM
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edm/tor blockbuster

to edm - kadri , schenn , kaberle , reimer , grabovski

to tor - 1st pick overall , eberle , salary dump

if kaberle doesn't sign a extension they move him to a contender at the trade dead line with a pre arranged 2 or 3 destinations and get the return unstead of a signed kaberle.

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05-24-2010, 10:27 PM
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to edm - kadri , schenn , kaberle , reimer , grabovski

to tor - 1st pick overall , eberle , salary dump

if kaberle doesn't sign a extension they move him to a contender at the trade dead line with a pre arranged 2 or 3 destinations and get the return unstead of a signed kaberle.
Kaberle, Reimer, and Grabovski serve no purpose to a rebuilding franchise and I would rather have Eberle and Seguin/Hall over Kadri and Schenn.

Sorry, no.

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Kadri+Schenn + Grabo for 1st Overall is bareley enough. Even there im not sure Edmonton would accept that..

And Kaberle + Riemer for Eberle..

Im no Toronto Specialist or Edmonton specialist, but Toronto takes this and Runs and Edmonton hangs up the phone and life goes on

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Throw in Klumimen and maybe Edmonton does not hang up.

In all seriousness I dont think Edmonton turns down a chance at a franchise player with the 1st overall pick

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This make burke look like an idiot? Trade the 2nd overall and then completely gut everything that is worth something in a trade for the 1st overall when the 1st and 2nd are pretty much equal this year

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It's closer than most...but I don't feel like breaking it down.

I think it's funny you put Reimer before Grabovski...Reimer might not even be the starter in the A next year let alone an NHLer.

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05-24-2010, 10:34 PM
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Declined.

The Leafs have nothing on their roster that I would move the #1 for. As in we need Hall/Seguin more than anyone on your roster.

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what kind of changes would make the trade closer from the leafs side

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what kind of changes would make the trade closer from the leafs side
Toronto doesn't have enough prospects of high calibre to pry both from Edmonton. It would likely take Kadri/Schenn/+ to just get the top pick. The Oilers wouldn't want to take any money back, so Toronto's tapped.

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This make burke look like an idiot? Trade the 2nd overall and then completely gut everything that is worth something in a trade for the 1st overall when the 1st and 2nd are pretty much equal this year
at the end of the day the trade would be seguin,kadri,schenn,two draft picks,grabo,reimer for kessel , hall , eberle.

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Edmonton will pass. And then pass again.

I'm sure out of everyone they have, their fans are looking forward to Eberle and that number 1 pick. MPS will be a great first line complementary player.

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Ouch. Big no from Edmonton. 1st aint movin unless a player with similar potential to Hall/Seguin is coming back. I'd like to have Schenn and Kadri, but the price of Eberle and the 1st is ridiculous, even with Kaberle.

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This pretty much summed it all up. ^

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Neither team does this.

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Neither team does this.
The Leafs would be falling all over themselves to make this deal. From a talent perspective, Hall and Eberle's upside>>>> than what is offered from Toronto's side. Not to mention the marketability of both of those players.

It's an MLSE wet dream if this trade were ever to happen. But it wont.

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to edm - kadri , schenn , kaberle , reimer , grabovski

to tor - 1st pick overall , eberle , salary dump

if kaberle doesn't sign a extension they move him to a contender at the trade dead line with a pre arranged 2 or 3 destinations and get the return unstead of a signed kaberle.
You can't put a price on hope and that is exactly what Edmonton needs to sell its fan-base right now. Hall/Seguin, Eberle, and MPS are the face of the rebuild and likely the DNA of future Edmonton championships. There is nothing on Toronto's roster or in their system that can trump this, even if the value is "fair". (which I don't think this trade is.)

As for Toronto, Burke has cast his lot with a strong back-end, a solid goaltending tandem, and some measure of young forward talent. He should keep Kaberle unless a deal blows him away and he's going to use July 1st to add an additional weapon or 2 for the top 6, otherwise there's no reason to drastically alter the make-up of the team on one off-season.

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Leafs would never do this either. Both teams take to much risk. If one prospect busts the team will lose horribly.

Hall potential >> Kadri potential
Eberle potential >= Schenn

The difference isn't worth Kaberle, Grabo, and Reimer + taking on a dump like Horcoff

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No way Edmonton even considers this. Grabovski just adds another small forward with an oversized contract, Kaberle is unlikely to resign and doesn't make them a cup or even playoff contender and Reimer is a throw in compared to the other prospects.

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stop dreaming, this a terrible proposal... you leaf fans never give up, stop living in your fantasy land!

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Throw in Klumimen and maybe Edmonton does not hang up.

In all seriousness I dont think Edmonton turns down a chance at a franchise player with the 1st overall pick
Best. Spelling. Ever.

As for the proposal, I don't think it really helps either team.

Leafs are better with Kadri and Schenn for the future, as Burke loves them (not saying he wouldn't love Hall) and the other pieces can be better used in smaller moves.

Edmonton won't move the 1st overall. It is more than a pick. Getting a 1st overall means more than just getting a stud prospect. It helps with the fanbase, fires up a rebuild and generally gets things going.

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Kaberle, Reimer, and Grabovski serve no purpose to a rebuilding franchise and I would rather have Eberle and Seguin/Hall over Kadri and Schenn.

Sorry, no.
how exactly does a young goalie, who's got some great stats at all levels of play thus far, not serve a purpose on a rebuilding squad?

I'd take him over any of your goaltending prospects easily, and I'm not sure if you ca have any confidence in Khabi at age 37

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Best. Spelling. Ever.

As for the proposal, I don't think it really helps either team.

Leafs are better with Kadri and Schenn for the future, as Burke loves them (not saying he wouldn't love Hall) and the other pieces can be better used in smaller moves.

Edmonton won't move the 1st overall. It is more than a pick. Getting a 1st overall means more than just getting a stud prospect. It helps with the fanbase, fires up a rebuild and generally gets things going.
yea, I kind of agree that neither team does this... Kadri and Schenn are our biggest skater prospects, and Kaberle is our top asset to move, while Reimer will likely take over Giggy's role after next season.

The only piece that's not extremely valuable to the Leafs is Grabovski

The 1st and Eberle are really interesting pieces, but I don't know if it's a good idea...

It's certainly interesting... having Kessel, Hall, Eberle on the same team... that's some great wingers, but as far as centers go, we've got Bozak and then...?

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It's closer than most...but I don't feel like breaking it down.

I think it's funny you put Reimer before Grabovski...Reimer might not even be the starter in the A next year let alone an NHLer.
Reimer is definitely the starter in the A next season, Rynass and Scrivens will fight over #2 spot.

Reimer is ahead of both players in terms of development, at a younger age.

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I'm not sure that anytyhing short of Kadri+Schenn+Phaneuf will get you the 1st overall with Eberle attatched, and even still I doubt Edmonton does it.
Toronto already made their decision when they traded for Kessel, to completely blow it all up for the 1st pick makes little sense when they were likely going to end up close to it from day 1

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Throw in Klumimen and maybe Edmonton does not hang up.

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