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05-26-2010, 05:14 PM
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Yes, I agree with you on all the above except for Clune just because of the energy and "mouth" he brings but usually, it was Harrold taking Clune's spot . . if I remember correctly?
I'm not sure but I'm sure it probably happened at least once. I just listed the group of guys that would typically be rotating in or out depending on the circumstances.

I'm not a Clune fan based on what I saw this year but at least he brought those intangibles you mentioned.

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Jones was sometimes played because of the lack of other options. Jones pretty much had the effort every night. He has the occasional "non-moving feet" night but his real problem is confidence with the puck under pressure. That can only be resolved by playing under pressure - something Murray has personally experienced.

Parse occasionally looked like he was playing in a different system. That requires a bench warming message.

Different players, different problems, different messages.
LOL, Okay, thanks for that. . . . .

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I'm not sure but I'm sure it probably happened at least once. I just listed the group of guys that would typically be rotating in or out depending on the circumstances.

I'm not a Clune fan based on what I saw this year but at least he brought those intangibles you mentioned.
Either way, Parse should of played at least 10+15 more games than he did, no reason at all with playing Harrold over him

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With Parse getting $900,000, what does Richardson get? $1.5 million?

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With Parse getting $900,000, what does Richardson get? $1.5 million?
Yeah, I'm thinking around 1.5-2 over 3-4 years

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With Parse getting $900,000, what does Richardson get? $1.5 million?
That's exactly what he should get, assuming he signs a 1-2 year deal.

If he signs longer, he could see maybe a back-loaded contract that gives him 2-2.5 in the 3rd or 4th year.

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With Parse getting $900,000, what does Richardson get? $1.5 million?
I'd say that is a good estimate. Three years at $4.5M. He's one of those valuable players that has the versatility and agility to play in any critical role. You find players like that on all Cup winning teams, i.e. John Madden, Maxime Talbot, Kris Draper, Todd Marchant, etc. Richardson fits in the same mold he's still only 25. He'll be a 15-20 goal, 40 point, two-way forward while adding speed to the checking line.

I like the Parse signing as well. He was very productive in the limited amount of ice time he received, which explains why he is being well compensated. Getting that type of production from a player on your fourth line just adds to the much needed depth this team needs.

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With Parse getting $900,000, what does Richardson get? $1.5 million?
Sounds about right, and good to me. Those two are only going to get better.

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And isn't that what I've been saying to all the "no more than 1 mil" posters?
I just did a little research of my own and found several proposed line-ups you made that had Richie making 1-1.2 mill.

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05-26-2010, 05:41 PM
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I just did a little research of my own and found several proposed line-ups you made that had Richie making 1-1.2 mill.
Let's make a separate thread about it

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Let's make a separate thread about it
I think it deserves 3.

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I just did a little research of my own and found several proposed line-ups you made that had Richie making 1-1.2 mill.
Well, duh!

If others have him at $1 mil to make the cap, why shouldn't I?

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Well, duh!

If others have him at $1 mil to make the cap, why shouldn't I?
You just have an answer for everything don't you

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The money (and I'm assuming it's one-way?) suggests that Parse will see more ice time/an expanded role this year, imo.

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Very happy, and surprised by this. I thought he was going to end up in a Red Wings uniform...

He's capable of being a solid 2nd/3rd liner who can chip in 20+ goals.

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Well, it's easy when you speak the truth. And I always do!

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Good, hopefully seeing him in the top-nine next year. Really like Parses skill.

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Depending on how the off-season plays out with the top six forwards (be assured that the Kings will add someone to the top six), this gives us an opportunity to look at who the likely candidates are to occupy the third and fourth lines.

Richardson-Handzus-Simmonds could remain intact as the top checking line on the team. Coaches tend to keep pairs of players together, and it seems that Handzus and Simmonds work very well together, with Richardson added speed and puck skills to the checking line.

In observing what the Flyers have on their checking lines, they have Arron Asham playing with two young players known for their offensive abilities in Claude Giroux and James Van Riemsdyk. You then have Blair Betts centering Ian Laperriere and Darroll Powe. A defensively responsible center with two gritty wings.

Fourth line duty is going to be extra competitive this summer. Clune, Clifford, Westgarth, King, and Zeiler will be the names competing to add a physical presence onto the roster. Lewis, Cliche, Elkins, and Gauthier will compete for the the center position. Moller, Parse, and Holloway will be competing for the winger position who can add some offense, speed and puck pursuit.

Four to five names from that list of 12 could make the roster as fourth line players and healthy scratches. It also wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility to see the Kings add more veteran presence. I would love to see Arron Asham on the Kings, he's the veteran type that can help the young players on the team, similar to what he has done in Philly with his linemates.

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Excellent deal in my opinion and he could prove to be an invaluable winger this upcoming season.

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Good, hopefully seeing him in the top-nine next year. Really like Parses skill.
I can't see where Parse will fit in a top nine role. The following are your top six forwards: Kopitar, Brown, Smyth, Williams, Stoll. The Kings will surely add a proven scorer to round out that top six. Then on the third line you have Handzus, Richardson and Simmonds. It is a full house on the top nine, but with plenty of opportunities available for the last three forward spots.

I see Parse as being a lock on the fourth line with Clune and Westgarth having the inside track as the other wingers/healthy scratches and Lewis at center. Kyle Clifford is my dark horse pick to crack the roster.

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I can't see where Parse will fit in a top nine role. The following are your top six forwards: Kopitar, Brown, Smyth, Williams, Stoll. The Kings will surely add a proven scorer to round out that top six. Then on the third line you have Handzus, Richardson and Simmonds. It is a full house on the top nine, but with plenty of opportunities available for the last three forward spots.
Williams is a guarantee to be hurt though so someone will move up into the Top 6.

Taking in the assumption that we do indeed add a top 6 forward and don't trade anyone from our top 9 (Stoll), I agree with you. Parse can round out his overall game on the 4th line, which should be better overall and get a little more ice time as well this year. Then when Williams gets hurt, either Parse/Richie/Simmonds move up and replace him.

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If Parse is in the top 9 next year, consistently, I will fear the Kings did nothing to get better in the off-season.


I know the whole "build-from-within" thing, but hopefully the Kings know that there is a possibility that hoping everyone just gets better won't be enough to stay in the playoffs. Lombardi cited the Blues last year as a team who he didn't understand how they jumped up so fast. Seeing the Blues this year, hopefully he's taking a different cue.

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I like the signing. Parse does have some skill. We have to remember he lost a year of development to injury and before that he was considered a lae bloomer. He has skill and he and Richardson will add skill to he bottom portion of our line-up.

As for Richardson, I am guessing 3 yr 4.3 mil = 1.4 per year starting at 1.3 - 1.4 -1.5

As for the bottom 3 - I guess we add Westgarth / Clune / Lewis to Parse and depending on the lineup aced one of Clune, Westgarth, or Parse sits

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Kovalchuk – Kopitar – Williams
Smyth – Richardson – Brown
Parse – Handzus – Simmonds
Clune – Lewis - Westgarth

I can see DL trading Stoll and doing this. If, Schenn impresses then Richardson and Parse move down.

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Depending on how the off-season plays out with the top six forwards (be assured that the Kings will add someone to the top six), this gives us an opportunity to look at who the likely candidates are to occupy the third and fourth lines.

Richardson-Handzus-Simmonds could remain intact as the top checking line on the team. Coaches tend to keep pairs of players together, and it seems that Handzus and Simmonds work very well together, with Richardson added speed and puck skills to the checking line.

In observing what the Flyers have on their checking lines, they have Arron Asham playing with two young players known for their offensive abilities in Claude Giroux and James Van Riemsdyk. You then have Blair Betts centering Ian Laperriere and Darroll Powe. A defensively responsible center with two gritty wings.

Fourth line duty is going to be extra competitive this summer. Clune, Clifford, Westgarth, King, and Zeiler will be the names competing to add a physical presence onto the roster. Lewis, Cliche, Elkins, and Gauthier will compete for the the center position. Moller, Parse, and Holloway will be competing for the winger position who can add some offense, speed and puck pursuit.

Four to five names from that list of 12 could make the roster as fourth line players and healthy scratches. It also wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility to see the Kings add more veteran presence. I would love to see Arron Asham on the Kings, he's the veteran type that can help the young players on the team, similar to what he has done in Philly with his linemates.
I don't thing King is an option yet, Lombardi will want him to get more time in the minors. Also, isn't Gauthier on an AHL deal only?

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