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06-03-2010, 10:14 AM
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He won't be asking for 3-4, he will be asking for 4-6. 11 more points than the $7 million dollar man Scott Gomez, he would be stupid to short-change himself under $4 million.

Irrelevant, if we are overpaying a FA it isn't going to be him.

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He had an outstanding season, and if he asks for 3-4/season, I think he is well worth it (especially seeing what Stajan got)...
He had an outstanding season, which is why he will be asking for more than 3/4 million per season. Let somebody else overpay him, because I seriously doubt he will ever match these numbers again.

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06-03-2010, 10:15 AM
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Plekanec gets around $5.5m as a UFA I would've thought.

That doesn't make him too attractive to me, but I like him as a player and wouldn't mind him here at all.

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06-03-2010, 10:16 AM
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Small, not aggressive and doesn't show up when it matters. Which part of that description sounds good to you?

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06-03-2010, 10:28 AM
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we're trying to get rid of Tomas' not add them!

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I'm not a fan of going after Plekanec. He'll be asking for too much money and years. Think, $5M-6M per year for 6 years. The Leafs shouldn't want any part in that. Whether we like it or not, we have a logjam at center, without a 'high end' guy. Bozak has been a solid stopgap, and Kadri may be that high end guy in a few years, but with Bozak, Kadri, and Grabovski all competing for two spots next year, I don't see why we should be investing in a center and not a wing.

I'd rather us look for that big-bodied left winger for our top line, and wait a year or two (or a few months) until Kadri is ready for the #1 role.

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06-03-2010, 10:31 AM
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I don't see any discussion in the Canadiens group about the news that Plekanec is going to UFA. Link?

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06-03-2010, 10:38 AM
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I don't see any discussion in the Canadiens group about the news that Plekanec is going to UFA. Link?

I'm sure the Habs are going to keep him. He's asking for $4-$4.5 million a season which is fair for a 70 point scorer. He's a lot better than people give him credit for. Everybody is down on him because he didn't play lights out in the playoffs....but the guy is still young and has only played a couple of playoffs with the Habs so he has a lot to learn yet, plus I think he was battling an injured groin too. I'd rather be patient and keep him than lose him and watch him blossom with someone else.

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06-03-2010, 11:19 AM
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06-03-2010, 11:22 AM
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I'm sure the Habs are going to keep him. He's asking for $4-$4.5 million a season which is fair for a 70 point scorer. He's a lot better than people give him credit for. Everybody is down on him because he didn't play lights out in the playoffs....but the guy is still young and has only played a couple of playoffs with the Habs so he has a lot to learn yet, plus I think he was battling an injured groin too. I'd rather be patient and keep him than lose him and watch him blossom with someone else.
Sure, Montreal is highly motivated to keep him around.

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06-03-2010, 11:24 AM
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Hell no, pass.

If there's an UFA center I sign this offseason, it's Matthew Lombardi. He strikes me as the only UFA who will be good value.

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06-03-2010, 11:32 AM
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Hahahahaa! One OT goal? Seriously? That's what you've got?

He put up a few points against Washington, but who doesn't? It's not like he was shooting the lights out. He ended up on the minus side of the column over the whole series. Then against Pittsburgh, when the checking got a little tighter he had a couple of assists, but really wasn't a factor. And then against Philly...wait...did he play against Philly?

He's small, doesn't play physically enough and his game took a serious nosedive when it became necessary to fight through traffic to get some points. I assure you that Philly's defense wasn't coming up with strategies to deal with the incredible Plekanec Pressure on the forecheck.

Plekanec the Playoff Warrior! Will wonders never cease?

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06-03-2010, 11:37 AM
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Hahahahaa! One OT goal? Seriously? That's what you've got?

He put up a few points against Washington, but who doesn't? It's not like he was shooting the lights out. He ended up on the minus side of the column over the whole series. Then against Pittsburgh, when the checking got a little tighter he had a couple of assists, but really wasn't a factor. And then against Philly...wait...did he play against Philly?

Plekanec the Playoff Warrior! Will wonders never cease.

He's small, doesn't play physically and his game took a serious nosedive when it became necessary to fight through traffic to get some points.
Of course I meant that like kind of exaggeration... but in fact, I think few points against Caps in the playoffs would be huge for Leafs

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06-03-2010, 11:40 AM
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Oh geez, that didn't take long. Is there something like Godwin's Law for this kind of argument? There ought to be.

Anyway, I know that the Leafs signing Pleks is not what they need to get them there any time soon.

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06-03-2010, 11:41 AM
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06-03-2010, 11:55 AM
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06-03-2010, 01:07 PM
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We have centers, as good as they may or not be, we do have them. We need wingers to score.

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06-03-2010, 01:18 PM
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What about him? We already have smaller centers along his mold in grabbo,bozak and kadri. Besides the guy wears a turtleneck and has a perfectly kempt goatee, that really dosnt scream treculence,belligerence and pugnacity.

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He had an outstanding season, which is why he will be asking for more than 3/4 million per season. Let somebody else overpay him, because I seriously doubt he will ever match these numbers again.
This.

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06-03-2010, 01:57 PM
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[QUOTE=Forty40;26115420]
He had an outstanding season, and if he asks for 3-4/season, I think he is well worth it (especially seeing what Stajan got)...

I'd rather get a younger guy who can play for us for 4-5 years, compared to an older guy (Marleau) who may retire in 2-3...
QUOTE]

1) He'll get around 5, maybe up towards 6 (not saying I think he's worth that, just saying thats what he'll get on the open market.

2) Marleau is only 30... so he probably has 7-8 years left... I don't see him signing here, but yea he still has many years before retirement (though he still isn't what we need).


We do need another centre though (I think), just take a bit of pressure off of Bozak (and Kadri if he ends up playing for the Leafs). Because of Bozak has a sophmore slump... next in line for our number one centre spot is... Grabovski.. which is pretty bad.

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06-03-2010, 02:14 PM
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He had an outstanding season, and if he asks for 3-4/season, I think he is well worth it (especially seeing what Stajan got)...

I'd rather get a younger guy who can play for us for 4-5 years, compared to an older guy (Marleau) who may retire in 2-3...
QUOTE]

1) He'll get around 5, maybe up towards 6 (not saying I think he's worth that, just saying thats what he'll get on the open market.

2) Marleau is only 30... so he probably has 7-8 years left... I don't see him signing here, but yea he still has many years before retirement (though he still isn't what we need).


We do need another centre though (I think), just take a bit of pressure off of Bozak (and Kadri if he ends up playing for the Leafs). Because of Bozak has a sophmore slump... next in line for our number one centre spot is... Grabovski.. which is pretty bad.
Or maybe Bozak avoids the sophmore slump like Stamkos did? Just an idea.

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06-03-2010, 02:18 PM
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I'm not sure why a team lacking size at forward would trade one of their only top forwards with size?

Including Kulemin means the Leafs take one step forward one step back. Penner will be 28 this seaso, Kulemin 24.

I could see Kaberle being interested in Quinn's team, but how long will Quinn be there? So Kaberle signs a 4 year extension for a coach who'll be gone in 2?

My heart says it makes sense, my head says otherwise.

If Kaberle wants to stay in the east, chances are he'd be agreeable to an extension to an eastern team.

I would not count out the Bruins.
kulemin - 6'1'' 225........penner 6'4'' 245, 6'3'' 228

the leafs would clearly be upgrading size-wise upm front

penner 27 kulemin 24 and the leafs would actually get younger moving 32 yrol kabs for 24 yr old stortini so im not sure its a step back age wise

the quinn point is good and i think its questionable kaberle would sign long term with the oil for sure, but if youre willing to play in siberia the oil will dump all kinds of money on you, maybe kabs will want to make up for his last hometown discount contract

im not advocating trading kulemin, i really like him too, i just think burke is using the dominic moore playbook on kulemin - questioning his value, making him look greedy and i wonder if act 3 isnt about to follow

and as a bright light to losing kulemin i think the leafs could then take on chicago salary due to the savings

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06-03-2010, 02:32 PM
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Or maybe Bozak avoids the sophmore slump like Stamkos did? Just an idea.
Did you say the same thing about Schenn last year? Cause he had a sophmore slump, as have countless other players.

It's not like it'd be a bad thing to have more depth at centre, since it's one of our weakest positions. And even if he doesn't have a slump and plays similarly to last year, what if he gets injured? Same thing. But no your right, we should put all our eggs in one basket and just assume he won't have a slump or get injured, especially since slumps tend to occur due to high expectations from fans...

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He doesn't fit Burkes mold....not that it matters because the Canadiens can't afford to let him walk

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