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06-10-2010, 09:16 AM
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He will continu to ''develop'' (lol) playing in the worst division.......Clearly hockey isn't his main focus right now. But we can't blame Timmins for this pick since a quebecer was avalaible in first round. Poor timmins , everyone will put the blame on him in 2-3 years when leblanc will bust.
The ECAC isn't the worst division in the NCAA, the AHA and CHA have been known as the weakest in the NCAA by far.

So Leblanc is a bust now before even turning pro?

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06-14-2010, 09:34 AM
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Louis Leblanc

Haven't heard anything new in a week. Anyone got any updates on where he'll play next season?

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The other day I was listening to an interview with Pat Brisson on... RDS I think? Anyways, he said that it was highly likely that Leblanc would spend another year at Harvard.

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If he stays in Harvard that's just dumb. I heard him say he wanna be a hockey player, so he's gonna take the best option. That's far from the best option, really far. Very few players who have played more than 1 year in the NCAA have become impact players, let alone in a league as weak as Leblanc is playing in.

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the good news is that he was traded to the junior of Montreal
He can go to McGill and play in the LHJMQ.
His courses will be credited by Harvard.

He havent decided yet...

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06-14-2010, 10:00 AM
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If him returning to Harvard is the truth, well my expectations for the guy have decreased quite a bit.

I wished we could draft more in the CHL. Timmins doesn't draft hockey players in the first round: He drafts athletes. This is where the problem stands, and probably a part of why he's so hot on players playing in the States.

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Timmins doesn't draft hockey players in the first round: He drafts athletes. This is where the problem stands, and probably a part of why he's so hot on players playing in the States.
That's an interesting insight - I've never thought about it that way before. But it's true, Timmins doesn't have the greatest track record at the top of the draft, perhaps for that very reason you mention. McDonagh, Fisher, Pacioretty, Leblanc all fit your description and none of turned out very well.

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06-14-2010, 05:42 PM
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Very few players who have played more than 1 year in the NCAA have become impact players...
Brian Gionta and Mike Cammalleri say hi.

As do Rob Blake, Doug Weight, Mike Knuble, Chris Drury, Marty Turco, Eric Cole, Mike Comrie, Ryan Malone, Ryan Miller, Dany Heatly, Patrick Sharp, Ryan Whitney, Keith Ballard, Chris Higgins (?), Duncan Keith, Tomas Vanek, Zach Parise, Matt Carle, David Backes, Joe Pavelski, Travis Zajac, David Booth, Jack Johnson, TJ Oshie, Paul Statsny, Jonathon Toews and Kyle Okposo...

Stick with the "inferior league" argument, you're on much better ground there.

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Brian Gionta and Mike Cammalleri say hi.

As do Rob Blake, Doug Weight, Mike Knuble, Chris Drury, Marty Turco, Eric Cole, Mike Comrie, Ryan Malone, Ryan Miller, Dany Heatly, Patrick Sharp, Ryan Whitney, Keith Ballard, Chris Higgins (?), Duncan Keith, Tomas Vanek, Zach Parise, Matt Carle, David Backes, Joe Pavelski, Travis Zajac, David Booth, Jack Johnson, TJ Oshie, Paul Statsny, Jonathon Toews and Kyle Okposo...

Stick with the "inferior league" argument, you're on much better ground there.
True that. But as far as the ECAC go, very few players make it.

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The division in which Harvard isn't the cream of the NCAA by any means...

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06-14-2010, 08:43 PM
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Did it not factor into your piss poor calculation that his practice time and game time in the ECAC is with/against a bunch of plugs?

If Louis is serious about becoming the best NHL'er he can be, he should ditch that garbage program ASAP. He already wasted one year down there, another one will just compound the situation.
I guarantee you that the men of an ECAC team would mop the floor with the kids of a QMJHL team. If you don't like the number of games they play in the ECAC and that Leblanc should be playing more games, that's fine. However, if you think the kids on a team from the Q can beat a team of grown men from the Division 1 ECAC, you're embarrassing yourself.

Having said all this, the low number of games played in Europe (compared to practice time) doesn't seem to be a detriment to the skill development of European hockey players.

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The ECAC isn't the worst division in the NCAA, the AHA and CHA have been known as the weakest in the NCAA by far.

So Leblanc is a bust now before even turning pro?
You're certainly our NCAA guru but keep in mind you're trying to debate/reason with a bunch of flunkies who like to spit out drivel without having any knowledge of the NCAA whatsoever.

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If he stays in Harvard that's just dumb. I heard him say he wanna be a hockey player, so he's gonna take the best option. That's far from the best option, really far. Very few players who have played more than 1 year in the NCAA have become impact players, let alone in a league as weak as Leblanc is playing in.
I never thought I'd ever see the day where someone is called "dumb" for going to Harvard. You never know what you might read on this forum.

Leblanc should stay at Harvard and remain low key while he develops. He's too young to be subjected to the everyday insanity from the lunatics in Montreal. This thread is a case in point.


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06-14-2010, 08:49 PM
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True that. But as far as the ECAC go, very few players make it.
Dominic Moore says hi

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06-14-2010, 09:11 PM
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If him returning to Harvard is the truth, well my expectations for the guy have decreased quite a bit.

I wished we could draft more in the CHL. Timmins doesn't draft hockey players in the first round: He drafts athletes. This is where the problem stands, and probably a part of why he's so hot on players playing in the States.
I'm sure Louis will have trouble sleeping tonight knowing that he has deeply disappointed you and the majority of this board.

I have posted this before so I apologize for the redundancy. What most people on this board don't realize is the difference in age and strength when comparing the NCAA and the CHL - especially LHJMQ. Having spoken to a member of the Leblanc team, junior has NEVER been an option. They see no value in playing against 16-20 year olds when you can play against 21-25 year old men. And given the so few quality prospects in the Q, the ECAC also offers better quality in addition to the strength.

The AHL is the level Leblanc wants to play next year. If the Habs think he can play, then he will sign and go to Hamilton. Otherwise he will return to Harvard, because he believes that the caliber offers him the best opportunity to continue developing his weakness, that is strength. Playing in the Q will not challenge his strength nor will it give him the opportunity to spend the necessary time in the gym to add mass.

There is no evidence whatsoever that the Q is a better development ground than NCAA - as a matter of fact quite the opposite. In addition to playing in the ECAC, Harvard also played against BU, twice against BC and twice against Minnesota, Dartmouth and Northeastern, all excellent teams with many 1st round prospects, something that is becoming a rarity in the Q.

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06-15-2010, 02:32 AM
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Brian Gionta and Mike Cammalleri say hi.

As do Rob Blake, Doug Weight, Mike Knuble, Chris Drury, Marty Turco, Eric Cole, Mike Comrie, Ryan Malone, Ryan Miller, Dany Heatly, Patrick Sharp, Ryan Whitney, Keith Ballard, Chris Higgins (?), Duncan Keith, Tomas Vanek, Zach Parise, Matt Carle, David Backes, Joe Pavelski, Travis Zajac, David Booth, Jack Johnson, TJ Oshie, Paul Statsny, Jonathon Toews and Kyle Okposo...

Stick with the "inferior league" argument, you're on much better ground there.
But at an ivy league, you get into Aaron Ward, Dominic Moore, I forget who Leblanc's coach is there, but he's a former Bruin. I think Rob DiMaio (sp ?) None of them were great players.

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But at an ivy league, you get into Aaron Ward, Dominic Moore, I forget who Leblanc's coach is there, but he's a former Bruin. I think Rob DiMaio (sp ?) None of them were great players.
Ted Donato.

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Matt Moulson, Rich Peverley, Douglas Murray, Lee Stempniak, Chris Higgins, Willie Mitchell, Brian Pothier, Andy McDonald, Jeff Halpern, Craig Adams...
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And if Leblanc turns into any of these players, will you be satisfied? I know I won't be. 1st rounders should land in the top six, and none of these guys are bonafide top 6ers. (I didn't really look at the defencemen)

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AHL > NCAA > CHL
HAHAHAHAHA. That's completely absurd. Especially when we're talking about the ECAC which is an embarrassingly poor hockey division.

Oh but wait, Louis might become the next Matt Moulson, Rich Peverley, Douglas Murray, Lee Stempniak, Chris Higgins, Willie Mitchell, Brian Pothier, Andy McDonald, Jeff Halpern, or Craig Adams...

Get a clue.

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HAHAHAHAHA. That's completely absurd. Especially when we're talking about the ECAC which is an embarrassingly poor hockey division.

Oh but wait, Louis might become the next Matt Moulson, Rich Peverley, Douglas Murray, Lee Stempniak, Chris Higgins, Willie Mitchell, Brian Pothier, Andy McDonald, Jeff Halpern, or Craig Adams...

Get a clue.
Ok - name me all the top prospects playing in the Q....

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Ok - name me all the top prospects playing in the Q....
2007: Voracek, Perron
2006: Brassard, Sheppard, Bernier, Gioux,
2005: Crosby, Bourdon (RIP), Vlasic, Latendresse, Letang,
2003: Fleury, Bernier, Bergeron,Lapierre,
2002: Bouchard,Lombardi, Talbot,
2001: Leclaire, Hemsky,Pominville, Clowe, Oduya,
2000: Vermette,

It's not like OHL or WHL but a lot more better than ECAC.

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I guarantee you that the men of an ECAC team would mop the floor with the kids of a QMJHL team. If you don't like the number of games they play in the ECAC and that Leblanc should be playing more games, that's fine. However, if you think the kids on a team from the Q can beat a team of grown men from the Division 1 ECAC, you're embarrassing yourself.
Further to that in 2007 two USHL teams - and most people agree that the USHL is vastly inferior to NCAA, even the ECAC - played four exhibition games against teams in the QMJHL, the Remparts and the Oceanic;

* Omaha beat the Patrick Roy coached Remparts 3-2 in their first game and then crushed the Oceanic 6-0 in their second game.

* Indiana lost in a shootout to Rimouski in their first game, 6-5, and then lost again to the Remparts, 5-3, in their second game (with an empty net goal).

Of course you can't draw too many conclusions from four exhibition games, but nonetheless in those four exhibition game two USHL teams were more than competitive against their QMJHL opponents.

For whatever that is worth.

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06-15-2010, 12:22 PM
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Ok - name me all the top prospects playing in the Q....
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2007: Voracek, Perron
2006: Brassard, Sheppard, Bernier, Gioux,
2005: Crosby, Bourdon (RIP), Vlasic, Latendresse, Letang,
2003: Fleury, Bernier, Bergeron,Lapierre,
2002: Bouchard,Lombardi, Talbot,
2001: Leclaire, Hemsky,Pominville, Clowe, Oduya,
2000: Vermette,

It's not like OHL or WHL but a lot more better than ECAC.
Owned. And that's just from the Q alone.

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Further to that in 2007 two USHL teams - and most people agree that the USHL is vastly inferior to NCAA, even the ECAC - played four exhibition games against teams in the QMJHL, the Remparts and the Oceanic;

* Omaha beat the Patrick Roy coached Remparts 3-2 in their first game and then crushed the Oceanic 6-0 in their second game.

* Indiana lost in a shootout to Rimouski in their first game, 6-5, and then lost again to the Remparts, 5-3, in their second game (with an empty net goal).

Of course you can't draw too many conclusions from four exhibition games, but nonetheless in those four exhibition game two USHL teams were more than competitive against their QMJHL opponents.

For whatever that is worth.
well team from the qmjhl didn't had their full lineup in those game vs ushl team. i know rimouski didnt had their top 6 or 7 players for those game. those players where in nhl training camp

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Owned. And that's just from the Q alone.
what part of playing don't you understand....funny how the list stops in 2007.

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what part of playing don't you understand....funny how the list stops in 2007.
Despres (2009)? Kulikov (2009)? Radulov (2005)? Couturier (2011)? Kabanov (2010)? Halak (2005)? Deschamps (2008)?

Just off the top of my head, and I'm no Q specialist.

His list is not exhaustive, I'm sure we can find even more players... The guys still playing there are bolded.

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With whom he might play if he indeed go in the Q? Any good wingers for him there? What kind of production could we expect from him at 19 years old? Does he like more Hellman's or Miracle Whips?

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