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05-15-2004, 02:33 PM
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2003 vs 2004

How would you rank the top five prospects from the 2003 draft compared with the top five potential prospects from 2004. I know some aren't technically "prospects" anymore, but where would you put them ranked 1 to 10 on talent and potential.

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My Top 5 for 2004 will be: Ovechkin, Malkin, Olesz, Barker, and Tukonen.

I'm not going to change the Top 5 from 2003, it is: Fleury, Staal, Horton, Zherdev, and Vanek.

Here's the "Top 10"

1. Ovechkin
2. Malkin
3. Fleury
4. Zherdev
5. Staal
6. Horton
7. Vanek
8. Olesz
9. Barker
10. Tukonen

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Originally Posted by Epsilon
My Top 5 for 2004 will be: Ovechkin, Malkin, Olesz, Barker, and Tukonen.

I'm not going to change the Top 5 from 2003, it is: Fleury, Staal, Horton, Zherdev, and Vanek.

Here's the "Top 10"

1. Ovechkin
2. Malkin
3. Fleury
4. Zherdev
5. Staal
6. Horton
7. Vanek
8. Olesz
9. Barker
10. Tukonen
Thats pretty much how I see it also.

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It should be noted that if I could go deeper into the 2003 draft than 5 players there would be more 2003 guys in there (Michalek, Suter, etc.). If I was going to do a "Total Top 10" it would have Ovechkin and Malkin, then 8 players from 2003 most likely. Maybe Olesz squeaks on.

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My TOP10 forwards (potential):

1. Ovechkin
2. Malkin
3. Tukonen
4. Staal
5. Zherdev
6. Radulov
7. Olesz
8. Horton
9. Vanek
10. Michalek

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My top 10 players over the last 2 years:

1 Ovechkin
2 Malkin
3 Fleury
4 Zherdev
5 Phaneuf
6 Stall
7 Vanek
8 Coburn
9 Barker
10 Vanek

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Top 10 Forwards
1. Alexander Ovechkin
2. Marc-Andre Fleury
3. Eric Staal
4. Evgeni Michalek
5. Nikolai Zherdev
6. Nathan Horton
7. Milan Michalek
8. Lauri Tukonen
9. Robby Schremp
10. Rostislav Olesz

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Well, the goal starved penguins are going to start needing goal production from EVERYONE

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Well, the goal starved penguins are going to start needing goal production from EVERYONE
What a joke, Olesz, Tukonen, Radulov have no right being in the top 10. I guess people on here forget last year was a draft class for the ages. I would take Carter over Tukonen any day of the week and Ruchards/Parise over Radulov also.

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What a joke, Olesz, Tukonen, Radulov have no right being in the top 10. I guess people on here forget last year was a draft class for the ages. I would take Carter over Tukonen any day of the week and Ruchards/Parise over Radulov also.
Agreed, I guess people tend to take the 2003 draft class for granted sometimes. However, the thing with prospects is that it's such an open ended thing that sometimes, you can't really call anybody WRONG.

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05-16-2004, 01:13 AM
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Top 10 Forwards
1. Alexander Ovechkin
2. Marc-Andre Fleury
3. Eric Staal
4. Evgeni Michalek
5. Nikolai Zherdev
6. Nathan Horton
7. Milan Michalek
8. Thomas Vanek
9. Lauri Tukonen
10.. Robby Schremp

Top 10 Defensman
1. Dione Phaneuf
2. Cam Barker
3. Ryan Suter
4. A.J. Thelen (down the road, could be number 1 IMO.
5. Braydon Coborn

Wes O'Neil and Mike Green have outside top 10 chances, very unlikely though.
Reminding you its Evgeni Malkin not Michalek but I cant blame you from putting Michalek, hes always on your mind haha.

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05-16-2004, 03:53 AM
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What a joke, Olesz, Tukonen, Radulov have no right being in the top 10. I guess people on here forget last year was a draft class for the ages. I would take Carter over Tukonen any day of the week and Ruchards/Parise over Radulov also.
That is your opinion. Last year draft is very deep, but it not means that they have all better top end potential. If you are never seen Tukonens play then i understand that you cant agree with me. I understand that you Canadians are proud whith last year draft because its your draft but believe me, Tukonen is real deal. He is so underrated. About 2 years ago he was ranked 3rd in world, but then he are come down. No people are finally seeing his potential and i think that is future "francise" player. Tukonens star is finally start rising.

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What a joke, Olesz, Tukonen, Radulov have no right being in the top 10. I guess people on here forget last year was a draft class for the ages. I would take Carter over Tukonen any day of the week and Ruchards/Parise over Radulov also.
Unfortunately for you, the consensus among hockey people is that 2003 was a draft of quality DEPTH, NOT that the top 5 or 6 in 2003 was so much better than any other year. Last year's top 5 and this years' are pretty even in my book (and many others).

Top 20 is another matter.

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Originally Posted by JasonMacIsaac
What a joke, Olesz, Tukonen, Radulov have no right being in the top 10. I guess people on here forget last year was a draft class for the ages. I would take Carter over Tukonen any day of the week and Ruchards/Parise over Radulov also.
Well two things, this is what happens when you may a post late at night...I put Fleury in the top 10 forwards lol..... I also put Evgeni Michalek lol.

Hey lighten up..... He was asking us to compare the top 10 to next years top 10..... Parise, Carter, Richards, Stewart,Getzlaf....guys I like more then most of the top 10 in 2004, could not be added because they were not selected in the top 10.

I agree totally, Except I think Tukonen could be better then Carter.

2003 was AMAZING...but I was simply comparing top 10 to top 10.

Thats why I didnt make a top 10 for defensman, or else guys like Brent Seabrooke, ect. wouldve made the list.

I agree with Jason that 2003 is still a underated draft.... But strictly looking at the players the top 10 of 2003 to the top 10 projected players in 2004....it's closer then you think.

Alexander Ladd....I cant believe I forgot about him....

I'm going to delete that post because It's a horrible one, My rankings would not be that.... DONT POST WHEN YOUR TIRED FOLKS!

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Alexander Ladd....I cant believe I forgot about him....

I'm going to delete that post because It's a horrible one, My rankings would not be that.... DONT POST WHEN YOUR TIRED FOLKS!
Still tired?

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Still tired?
lol..... Andrew Lad....ANDREW.....EVGENI EVGENI MALKIN.

I just wont post on this thred again lol.

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Originally Posted by phaneuf_fan_3
My top 10 players over the last 2 years:

1 Ovechkin
2 Malkin
3 Fleury
4 Zherdev
5 Phaneuf
6 Stall
7 Vanek
8 Coburn
9 Barker
10 Vanek
That looks pretty bang on to me. The 1st 3 have "superstar" potential, all the rest have "star" potential.

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X-Sharkie - so what was your top ten then. I never did see it even if you were tired or not. Including all prospects from 04 and 03 if you like. I was more wondering about the high end talent...more than the "depth." For instance would you have Olesz rated above Vanek, Staal etc? I thought the top four this year would have gone first overall last year. Is this valid? Make sure you get a few hours of sleep before you post though...lol.

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