woops vancouver_2010 sorry i forgot the emoticon after my post, i didn't think anybody would take my post that way because i was just pointing out that skinner won't drop to us
Half of me wants Kabanov because he's got such good ability, that just can't be learned.
The other half of me is trying to strangle the bit that likes Kabanov because its rare a me-first selfish headcase turns it around.
Potential cancer or star. hmmmmmm. I doubt he drops to us though, some GM 10-20 range will be prepared to take that gamble.
Can't exactly name many teams that went far in the playoffs recently with a flashy skilled russian player, let alone be led deep by one.
The whole flight risk stuff is also extremely frustrating as he can get up and go back to Russia if things aren't going his way instead of working out his flaws in the AHL.
I don't think we get a crack at Skinner unless we move up several spots.
Can't exactly name many teams that went far in the playoffs recently with a flashy skilled russian player, let alone be led deep by one.
The whole flight risk stuff is also extremely frustrating as he can get up and go back to Russia if things aren't going his way instead of working out his flaws in the AHL.
I'm not necessarily debating because I disagree with your opinion, but by the sounds of it Kabanov-to-Russia is one of the last things you need to worry about. The kid seems pretty pissed off at both the team he had played for and eventually was quoted as saying he had no interest in playing for their national team either.
Pretty big words so early in his career for sure, but Russia doesn't seem to be the problem here.
“I was told, ‘We don’t need American bubble gum on the team,’ ” Kabanov said. “When Russia was a closed state, if you like America or the culture, [you were dubbed] American bubble gum. They just want to show I’m enemy of Russia [for fighting the KHL].
“I’ll never come back to Russia [to play hockey]. I’m trying to show I can play in the NHL. It doesn’t matter what the [draft] number is. If a team picks me, I’ll sign the contract right away.”
Kabanov is an engaging conversationalist with a lively sense of humour. He outlines his game – good technique, explosive speed – and admits he needs to work on being more physical. “It’s the typical Russian skill set,” he said. “In KHL, everybody would get the Lady Byng Trophy.”
Date of Birth: March 3rd, 1992
Height: 6.04
Weight: 193lbs.
Shoots: R
Season Statistics: Regular Season | 57GP 8G 19A 27P 87PIM - Playoffs | 4GP 0G 0A 0P 4PIM
TSR Midterm Rank: 24 | Position Rank: 8th Defensemen | League Rank: 10th WHL | Country Rank: 17th Canada
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Petrovic had a good draft year, establishing himself in the late first to early second range. He plays a very rugged style and does a good job of utilizing his size and physicality. The offensive skills are starting to emerge, and he’s been doing a good job of using his shot, but his role at the next level projects to be a physical two-way defender at this point.
I don't know if Skinner drops too far. But Skating is sometimes cited as something that he needs to work on. Isn't it?
Yes, the biggest flaw scouts point to with Skinner is his skating ability, - which is kind of odd because he used to be a nationally ranked figure skater - but his ability to score goals is up with the very top of his class - and that includes Hall.
While Skinner straight ahead speed is not great, his balance and agility on his blades are outstanding, - one of the reason he has been so effective at scoring goals in the high traffic areas this year in the OHL.
He has a very high compete level/work ethic and is also a great leader. This past season he has shown an increasing willingness to work on his defensive game and has developed into a top-notch two-way forward at the Junior level. He has the ability to protect the puck and if very difficult to knock off stride.
I would be shocked if Skinner is still available at 25.
Riley Sheahan
- I love hearing about forwards who have a complete game. He reminds me very much of Ryan Kesler in his draft year; very strong defensive game, knows how to play without the puck, and was one of the youngest players in the NCAA this year.
I love players who have shown they can compete against bigger/stronger players. That's the reason I'm hesitant about picking players out of minor junior (BCHL) or who are at the very top of their age group (Schroeder).
I'd be weary of Jordan Weal. He looked pretty lackluster when Jordan Eberle was off at the WJC's.
The team was 1-8 in that span and Weal cooled down considerably. Only a PPG during that span compared to his usual 1.5'ish when he has Jordan Eberle in the lineup.
With the 25th overall selection in the 2010 NHL Entry Draft, the Vancouver Canucks are proud to select...
I'd like to see the 'nucks take, in priority order:
Kirill Kabanov
There is a good chance this kid falls because of his train-wreck season, but by all accounts he's a high end talent. In my mind, you have to swing for the home run at #25.
Riley Sheahan
Possible Kesler clone here; this kid has character, nevermind what you read. If he slides this far, I would love to see us take him.
Jarred Tinordi
Projects as the crease cleaner the Canucks lack (too bad he's years away). Good bloodlines, fair skater for a big man.
Dylan McIlrath
He will play in the NHL; it only remains to be seen what kind of role he can fill. Is it too early to take a goon? Many think he can play.
Beau Bennet
BCHL phenom is untested against the best of his age group, but has size, speed and talent.
What do you think? Who would you like to see pull on the Canuck Jersey in LA later this month? Discuss.
we need all the help we can get on the blue line so go for mcilrath
I like McIlrath because despite having no idea how to pronounce his name in my head it is pronounced Mc Ill Wrath which is just awesome.
That said, I'd rather take the Red Wings route, take a guy that will take a while to develop and then when you need prospects, they are there.
So Jarred Tinordi, Beau Bennet and Martin Marincin are my picks, in no particular order.
I'd also rather they trade out of the 1st for 2 2nds. And then trade Bieksa for third 2nd. (and maybe some Eastern Conference team will give us a 3rd for Bernier and Alberts.)
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Yes, the biggest flaw scouts point to with Skinner is his skating ability, - which is kind of odd because he used to be a nationally ranked figure skater - but his ability to score goals is up with the very top of his class - and that includes Hall.
While Skinner straight ahead speed is not great, his balance and agility on his blades are outstanding, - one of the reason he has been so effective at scoring goals in the high traffic areas this year in the OHL.
He has a very high compete level/work ethic and is also a great leader. This past season he has shown an increasing willingness to work on his defensive game and has developed into a top-notch two-way forward at the Junior level. He has the ability to protect the puck and if very difficult to knock off stride.
I would be shocked if Skinner is still available at 25.
being a figure skater doesn't make you fast. in fact, it probably aids balance and agility. so it kinda makes sense.
I'd be weary of Jordan Weal. He looked pretty lackluster when Jordan Eberle was off at the WJC's.
The team was 1-8 in that span and Weal cooled down considerably. Only a PPG during that span compared to his usual 1.5'ish when he has Jordan Eberle in the lineup.
'Only' a PPG for an undersized forward in his draft year, missing his talented linemate?
That's like saying Henrik scored 'only' a PPG while Daniel was out.
emoticon after my post, i didn't think anybody would take my post that way because i was just pointing out that skinner won't drop to us
