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06-07-2010, 11:48 AM
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I went to the Interstate Mullet Toss at the Florabama a few weeks ago...Most fun dive in America..LOL

In other news though, the mayors of Gulf Shores and Orange beach AL, as well as the governor of Alabama have all told BP and the government basically that they're going to do what they see fit and send BP the bill later.

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What army? Our armed forces have been stretched to their limit over the last 8 years. Ironically, this country doesn't have the military strength to protect itself.

Besides, what would the army do? It's not like they've got oil spill specialists waiting in the wings to swoop in and fix this thing. They're a fighting force, not a bunch of guys from ServiceMaster. The simple fact of the matter is that the only people who have the hardware and know-how to resolve this are in the oil industry.

Contrary to popular belief, the government is NOT the fix for most problems.
You have no idea what you are talking about? No army to protect ourselves? Stretched to the limit? Ha. No manpower to help clean up a spill, right?

What the army can do is the same thing some of the fisherman that have lost jobs b/c of this damn thing can do. Help with the clean up. I am sure we have a few thousand reserves or others in our armed forces that can assist. Have them on the beaches and in the marshes help.

My initial response was not to say that the gov't should take over fixing the spill. BP is best at that, but they should have taken over containment and clean up. BP does not have the man power for this. The gov't has the manpower to do it.

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You have no idea what you are talking about? No army to protect ourselves? Stretched to the limit? Ha. No manpower to help clean up a spill, right?

What the army can do is the same thing some of the fisherman that have lost jobs b/c of this damn thing can do. Help with the clean up. I am sure we have a few thousand reserves or others in our armed forces that can assist. Have them on the beaches and in the marshes help.
Perhaps they can ride in on unicorns and mop it all up with rainbows.

I think perhaps you underestimate the magnitude of the problem here and the overall scope of the cleanup.

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This whole thing began for me with the initial leak, me going on vacation out to Banff for 2 weeks and being complacent and totally non-news watching. Travel prep and complacency made me not realise what this really was until May 15th. Then I started to watch the news to see what was going on and if there was any progress. I became resigned to it all in a negative way. Shaking my head. Knowing this was so wrong. Kept watching the news to get updates. It all came to a thundering emotional crash when they cut the riser for top hat. There was no communication from BP if there was any application of top hat. All I can see on CNN is what looks like an underwater volcano. I broke.

Then the next day at about 3 in the afternoon I finally hear it's been placed on the well.

Now we get to sit through this waiting. The itch you can't scratch. This disaster for me is unprecedented. This is omni present and no shower seems to help. Always not far from my thinking.

I've been noticing the media has quick overhead shots from planes but I've not been able to really see any overhead evidence to demonstrate the damage. So I decided to do a NASA satellite image search.

Warning: This is depressing

From June 12th:

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/ima...010163_lrg.jpg

All images link:

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Nat...t.php?id=43733

Good Bless the Gulf and America. Hope for the best....


...All my hopes

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Alabama, despite anyone in the media and barely the federal government acknowledging our existence, has handled the spill quite well on our own. When oil hits the shore here, it stays on the beach an average of three hours. Our Governor has gone to all the municipalities along the coast and distributed the money we get from BP using input from the locals.

General consensus 'round these parts is the federal government's the problem right now...Not BP. They took our boom and sent it to Louisiana.... They won't let us construct barriers because of the sea turtles.... Everything has to go through too many people.

Gulf Shores, AL pics and info... If anyone's looking for a weekend away, Gulf Shores/Orange Beach is a great option, and they could use the help!

http://www.thebeachfacts.com

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Looks like a hurricane might be heading towards the gulf as soon as next week. Currently a 30-50% chance of a tropical disturbance located near Cuba to develop into a tropical storm/hurricane.

And we all know what happens to hurricanes when they enter the waters of the Gulf...

Keep an eye here for those details, and whether anything materializes: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo_atl.shtml

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Damn I can't believed I've ignored this thread for this long:

BP ****ed up, but boycotting BP does more harm than good. Most of the BP gas stations in the US aren't owned by BP, rather by everyday American's who sign a contract with BP as the station's fuel supplier; so any sort of boycott of BP gas stations in the US will only end up hurting small businesses which certainly won't help our stagnating economy.

Maybe you could send a personal, albeit totally insignificant message to BP , in the event you own BP stock, by selling off your shares.

I realize people are obviously upset, but it would be totally unwise to support The Beneficient All Mighty Obama's campaign to de-emphasize the role of offshore drilling because of this monumental **** up. I find it very interesting that shortly after Obama allowed for increased off shore drilling, which provides thousands of jobs and helps to secure America's energy future, this oil spill occurs. Maybe y'all don't think Obama is this sinister, but I would not be surprised if the oil spill was engineered by the left to sway public opinion against the use of fossil fuels and to garner support for Cap and Trade.

I hope the environmental impact can be assuaged down the road, but it would be completely foolish to write off off shore drilling, especially with the current state of the economy.

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Damn I can't believed I've ignored this thread for this long:

BP ****ed up, but boycotting BP does more harm than good. Most of the BP gas stations in the US aren't owned by BP, rather by everyday American's who sign a contract with BP as the station's fuel supplier; so any sort of boycott of BP gas stations in the US will only end up hurting small businesses which certainly won't help our stagnating economy.
That's not entirely true. While BP gets only a small percentage of it's revenue from franchising they probably value their "Brand" as being worth a decent amount of money. By boycotting BP gas stations you greatly devalue BP's brand name and trademarks which is something they'll have to account for on their balance sheets.

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not really, you really end up hurting small business ,not corporate fat cats chillin in G500s, I have alot of close friends with ties to the Oil Industry, and they haven't even felt any monetary pinch at all from this incident. All the expense and loss of money is trickling down to the small businessman who is getting boycotted by Limousine Liberals that do not have a vast conception of business or economics.

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06-24-2010, 11:01 AM
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All the expense and loss of money is trickling down to the small businessman who is getting boycotted by Limousine Liberals that do not have a vast conception of business or economics.
This would imply that "rich liberals" are the ones doing the boycotting. That's not the case.

Liberals and conservatives from all walks of life are participating in the BP boycott. It's not about political ideology, it's about the environment.

Those boycott and protest efforts are grossly misplaced, however. Boycotting the mom-and-pop BP station + car repair shop + food stop is going to hurt the common man, not the corporation itself. Protesting in front of gas stations or corporate offices is going to be about as effective as urinating on a forest fire. However, selling off your BP stocks makes no sense either, unless you bought those stocks at $60/share. No, those stocks are going to drop to about $15/share at least. And that would be a wonderful time to buy. ROI will be through the roof.

The spill is bad publicity, but there's a lot of blame to go around, spanning presidential administrations, corrupt government workers, shady policies by the oil company and oil rig owner-operator, all the way down to the workers on the rig and the low rank coast guard workers.

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How long are the fuel contracts? What stops the shop from finding a different distributor? Horrible luck for those business owners but I'm curious if there are options for them to sever ties if BPs mismanagement of the Gulf is impacting their stores.

Also, wouldn't supply and demand principles be at play here? If Americans are boycotting the BP stations then they are not moving product. While the short term impact hits the store, if there are no future orders for additional fuel because of the boycott this hits corporate....and continues downstream to refining and storage

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I'm actually going out of my way to buy BP gas and Castrol Oil products. I mean, I've been a loyal Castrol user my entire life, but now I make sure to show the company support. They're doing what they said they'd do, but the government keeps getting in the way of the states doing what they need to do.

If i weren't in Illinois next week, I'd put some BP gas in my car and head to gulf shores to the free Jimmy buffett concert on the beach.

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Going to PCB Wednesday.

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I wonder if Obama has improved his handicap over the month and a half?

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