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06-07-2010, 03:24 PM
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Doug Harvey deserves mention for being a three sport star, as a baseball player he was invited to an MLB training camp with the Boston Braves, and was a star football player playing for the Montreal Navy team that won the Grey Cup in 1944 while he was away at the war. That might just make him the most well rounded athlete but not necessarily the most physically gifted.

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I have to say Mario for sure. When Bobby Orr is saying stuff like: "what he did, I couldn't do" you take notice. Plus we all saw what he did on the ice making a mockery of defensemen. Hard to pick anyone but Mario here. He had a God-given physique as well at 6'4"

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PETER FORSBERG...Seriously ridiculous none of you mentioned him

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Lindros and Bure are two guys that come to mind. Both gifted in different ways.

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PETER FORSBERG...Seriously ridiculous none of you mentioned him
Add accident prone and self destruct to our list of desired attributes, and he's right up there.

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Red Storey should get an HM even though he never played in the NHL - he was a referee.

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Bobby Orr, end of story!

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He may not be the most physically gifted of all time, but HM to Pavel Bure. Obviously in hockey he had amazing speed, agility, and hand-eye, but i'm pretty sure i've heard a few times that he's really good at tennis as well. I went to his wikepedia page to see if it mentioned anything about tennis (it didnt) but it does say that his dad won 4 medals as an olympic swimmer, his grandfather was an olympic water polo goaltender, and then obviously his brother played in the nhl as well. Some pretty impressive athletic genes in the Bure family

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overall athlete? Lionel Conacher
Make that a bing, a bang and a boom!

Good choice!

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Hobart Baker!

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Newsy Lalonde deserves some love here. Possibly the best hockey player of his time, and in 1950, he was selected as the best lacrosse player of the first half-century. Still regarded by some as the best lacrosse player of all-time.

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Hobart Baker!
Another excellent choice.

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Hobart Baker!
Totally slipped my mind, yes, outstanding athlete.


On the international front, Vsevolod Bobrov probably deserves some mention. One of the greatest Russian players ever in both hockey and soccer. Played with the USSR soccer team in the '52 Olympics scoring 5 goals in 3 games with them. Scored close to 100 goals in under 120 games for various Soviet clubs.

In hockey he was even better, scoring 250 goals in 130 games with his Soviet clubs. Scored 89 goals in 59 games with the Soviet national team.

Interestingly Bobrov was the Soviet coach in the 72 Summit Series

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Says it all.

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Yes what I meant was strength, power, endurance, conditioning, etc. Not necessarily skill or height.

Fun answers, never really knew about Conacher, that's just amazing.

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I know this is an old thread but a couple players that haven't been mentioned that come to mind are Chris Chelios and Zdeno Chara, maybe not the best, but mention worthy...

Chelios played 1651 games in the modern NHL till the age of 47, was a career plus 350, played a physical game for a relatively small stature

Zdeno Chara at 6'9 260, probably the most physically imposing player ever. Doesn't play on the edge, because if he did he would probably kill people. Amazing that a man of his size can even keep up with the speed of today's game. Hardest shot in the NHL and probably world except for that guy in the KHL.

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If Lionel conacher is mentioned, then dan Bain probably should be too. Canada's overall athlete for the 2nd half of the 19th century and he was a giant for his time.

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If Lionel conacher is mentioned, then dan Bain probably should be too. Canada's overall athlete for the 2nd half of the 19th century and he was a giant for his time.
Ya, I agree. Thats a tough question really. Certainly Conacher, Bain; Baker in the US "All Round Athletes" with really nothing to compare them with from the late 20th Century onward as "All Round" at the pro-levels ceased to exist. Guys like Richard, Howe, Hull, Orr, Lafleur etc were all superb hockey players & I suspect had they concentrated on other sports the same determination & skill's likely wouldve' come to the fore here & there, but its really impossible to ascertain let alone make a call on IMO....

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I know this is an old thread but a couple players that haven't been mentioned that come to mind are Chris Chelios and Zdeno Chara, maybe not the best, but mention worthy...

Chelios played 1651 games in the modern NHL till the age of 47, was a career plus 350, played a physical game for a relatively small stature

Zdeno Chara at 6'9 260, probably the most physically imposing player ever. Doesn't play on the edge, because if he did he would probably kill people. Amazing that a man of his size can even keep up with the speed of today's game. Hardest shot in the NHL and probably world except for that guy in the KHL.
Come on- cross-checking and elbowing don't constitute playing a "physical game".

If Bobby Orr had taken Chelios' approach to playing hockey (and stated at a young age that he wanted to play until he was 50- like Chelios did), he might still be playing now.

I have to concede to Conacher, though.

But I'll say that there was a window in time when Lindros could dominate the game like no other.

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03-23-2011, 03:51 PM
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Very good answer. I'm going to throw a strange name out there (because he never materialized) but I've read some startling things about Bryan Fogerty and his abilities.
Sometimes I wonder if it was overstated?

I'll go with Lemieux on this one.

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03-24-2011, 12:47 PM
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Richard was not a great skater... he was a bit chunky his whole career and got quite overweight at the end.

He doesn't belong in this thread. He was great for much different reasons than his physical package.
Although Richard was tremendously strong and for most of his career a fast skater, he was not the most physically gifted. He was not chunky his whole career. He had weight problems the last three years of his career as he entered his late 30s. And he was a very good skater for most of his career until the weight problem slowed him down a bit.

Please don't cite that piece of dreck written by some young hack desperate to come up with a fresh angle who claimed that Richard was not called the Rocket because of his speed without bothering to ask a single one of Richard's contemporaries about his skating ability. Did you ever see Richard play? Where do you get the stuff you spout? Skating ability, strength, and a tremendous wrist shot and backhand shot were the reasons Richard was a great scorer.

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Sometimes I wonder if it was overstated?

I'll go with Lemieux on this one.
The famous quote about Bryan Fogarty by Mats Sundin:

"Bryan Fogarty could skate faster, shoot harder and pass crisper drunk than the rest of us could sober."

It is really too bad his alcoholism ruined his career before it really got started.


That being said I have to go with the usual suspects of Howe/Hull/Orr/Lemieux. Who knows who was the best of them all?

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03-24-2011, 02:10 PM
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I have said this before, but I'll say it again here: Mario would destroy the league as it is today; 90 goal, 200+ point seasons.
... Hahahahahaha are you serious with this? If you're gonna throw out made-up ridiculous numbers, why not really go all out? Why not 150 goals, and 300 points? Or a million goals and a bazillion points?

If Lemieux couldn't score 90 goals and 200 points in his actual prime in the late 80s/early 90s, what makes you think he could do it today, with goaltenders better than ever? This sort of thing is the reason why speculating on what a player of another era would do today is silly.

As far as the thread goes, the most physically dominant player I've ever seen is Eric Lindros, and no one really comes close. There were very few opposing defensemen and zero opposing forwards who were able to match up with Lindros physically. He had a terrific, accurate wrist shot, he had a great passing touch, excellent stickhandler, great on faceoffs because he overpowered everyone else, very fit and able to log a ton of ice time, was a punishing hitter - no matter the physical attribute, Lindros was outstanding.

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For me it's Howe. Not only did he have an insane endurance, he had the skills too.

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