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06-06-2010, 12:08 AM
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How do you guys feel about this line up?

i was curious about Atlanta's roster and line combos and wondered if the following line-up is "Playoff Caliber" for next season....

bergfors-antropov-afinogenov
kane-peverley-little
macarthur-slater-armstrong
white-reasoner-thorburn

kubina-valabik
oduya-enstrom
bogosian-hainsey

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Anyway, are ATL fans satisfied with this kind of line-up? Can it get ATL to the playoffs?

Just looking for feedback, thanks

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06-06-2010, 12:12 AM
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No. Doesn't work.

1- Valabik won't be back for some time he is injured.
2- He won't be ahead in over Kulda anyway. You forgot Kulda whom is going to be a full time player. Valabik isn't even ahead of Vish in my eyes.
3- Kubina, Hedberg, Armstrong, Slater, and Afinogenov are all UFA's. Armstrong is 100% guaranteed not coming back.
4- White needs to be on the 3rd line over Slater if anything. You are not a playoff team when James Slater is your 3rd line center. 2 months of average hockey doesn't make up for 4 years of garbage. I'm hope for White to regain form when he had 70 point season. Slater must be on the 4th line or no no to him.
5- We need to see what happens with Klingberg, Morin etc... or this years draft, or any free agents we sign or any trades we make. IMO we need 3 scoring lines.

We need a scoring forward to replace armstrong, and if we get a center we could ditch Slater and than use White on the 4th line.


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Even when Valabik's healthy, he's not a 1st pairing d-man. He's a 3rd pairing kinda guy. The only reason Bogosian's 3rd pairing (Probably with Kulda for next season) is because everyone in front of him played lights out.

Todd White's not very effective as a winger, and would be even less effective as a 4th line winger. He's WAYYY too soft to play on the 4th line.

Armstrong is gone.

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ok thanks for the feedback guys

but isnt valabik like a 10th overall pick? has he sucked or something?

dude is huge, like 6'7" (chara style)

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ok thanks for the feedback guys

but isnt valabik like a 10th overall pick? has he sucked or something?

dude is huge, like 6'7" (chara style)
He hasn't been terrible he just well in my opinion hasn't matured mentally. He still takes bad penalties and he just hasn't lived up to being the 10th overall pick. Right now he looks like a 5-6th defenseman as best. One promising thing is he did look better before he got hurt last season. Hopefully he returns and improves his game. Speaking of last season Bogosian was pretty brutal. I'm going to chalk that up to age and playing injured.

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He doesn't suck, he's just really fragile.

When he is not being made of glass he's a beast.

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valabik was on his way to a career season this year before he got injured. he could easily become our very own chara if he keeps it up

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This lineup looks exactly like last years?

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He hasn't been terrible he just well in my opinion hasn't matured mentally. He still takes bad penalties and he just hasn't lived up to being the 10th overall pick. Right now he looks like a 5-6th defenseman as best. One promising thing is he did look better before he got hurt last season. Hopefully he returns and improves his game. Speaking of last season Bogosian was pretty brutal. I'm going to chalk that up to age and playing injured.
but dont u think if he were paired with a real solid, smart dman (kubina) he could possibly flourish?

or am i mistaken? feel free to be honest, just try not to be harsh. im trying to get educated

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This lineup looks exactly like last years?
thats kind of the idea

conserve on cap space, and with some of the young guys having more experience i though maybe it could be a playoff caliber line up...guess not

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but dont u think if he were paired with a real solid, smart dman (kubina) he could possibly flourish?

or am i mistaken? feel free to be honest, just try not to be harsh. im trying to get educated
I think he(Valabik) can improve but I don't ever see him becoming a great NHLer. The next two years will be huge for him...
1. Can he stay Healthy
2. Can he stay above Kulda, Vishnevskiy and too an lesser extent Postma on the Depth Chart.

If he can't do both of those I don't see him in Atlanta too much longer.


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This lineup looks exactly like last years?
Yeah, apparently the consensus is we're not adding any new talent to the team next year via free agency.

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I think he(Valabik) can improve but I don't ever see him becoming a great NHLer.
He improved vastly from 08-09 to 09-10. We didn't see him in many games last year, but he did show remarkable improvement

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thats kind of the idea

conserve on cap space, and with some of the young guys having more experience i though maybe it could be a playoff caliber line up...guess not
You have the right idea, just some of the wrong names.

I have know idea what will happen with MacArthur. There have been no indications whether or not he will return. Personally, I have not seen enough to warrent him returning.

Armstrong has all but signed a contract with someone else to guarentee him not returning.

Not sure what will happen with Slater. He wants to stay.

There are a couple of young guys that could make the roster. Mahachek and Cormier will both be given long looks. Klingberg has an outside shot but he likely won't. Kulda will likely make the roster and Vishnevskiy could make it too.

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I don't want the same roster as last year. I want to see a kid make the team like Cormier or Klingberg. I would love to sign a free agent that would be an automatic upgrade.

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Poni-Antro-Afini
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Kane-Slater-Cormier
mach-reason-Thor

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Volchenkov-Enstrom
Hainsey-Oduya
Bogo-Kulda

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Why is Bogo on the 3rd pairing of everyone's lineup??

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He and Kulda had good chemistry together.

Even though he is on the "3rd pair" doesn't mean he will get 3rd pair minutes. He was on the 3rd pair last year which is why we all have him pinned there, but only with sucky Popovic and Chelios at one point, and someone else I'm forgetting. That pair of Bogo-Kulda could develop into our very best. I'm probably highest on Kulda on these boards. I think he is going to be real good.

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Poni-Antro-Afini
Berg-Peverly-Little
Kane-Slater-Cormier
mach-reason-Thor

White
bolton

Volchenkov-Enstrom
Hainsey-Oduya
Bogo-Kulda

Valabik

Pevs
Hedberg
If Waddell was still GM, you could easily pencil in Poni as a UFA pick-up... not so sure Dudley makes the same decision.

I don't think the team is going to stay the same... every GM likes to put his fingerprint on a team. I'd expect at least a little shake-up.

Also, according to Kevin Allen, an Afinogenov resigning is doubtful.

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I'm not sure if I want to restrict Kane to 3rd line minutes once again this season.

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Also, according to Kevin Allen, an Afinogenov resigning is doubtful.
Well, let's hope he's wrong.

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Why is Bogo on the 3rd pairing of everyone's lineup??
because Haineey-Oduya were good together and a solid veteran 2nd pair, Toby + UFA are 1st pair.

Bogo hasnt earned it to leapfrog anyone yet...he and kulda need less pressure initially, could be a rock solid tandem down the road

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Honestly, we're in a position where we could easily have three defensive pairings pulling 20 minutes per night each.

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Honestly, we're in a position where we could easily have three defensive pairings pulling 20 minutes per night each.
I've been thinking about that. I don't think we will have a weak pair on D. Kulda and Bogo should be solid. Hainsey and Oduya have showed that they can work well together. And we know what we will get with Enstrom.

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this is most likely

bergfors-antropov-little
kane-peverley-ufa
cormier-slater-machacek
boulton-reasoner-thorburn

enstrom-bogosian
hainsey-oduya
kulda-vishnevskiy

i don't even want to think about goaltending right now. if kulda and vishnevskiy play well that could be a very good defensive unit, really all depends on if bogosian plays like good bogosian or bad bogosian.

the offense is what scares me. depending on who our 2nd line RW is peverley and little absolutely CAN'T be streaky scorers, and unfortunately they are both very prone to doing just that. if slater plays well again then i think we can stomach having two rookies on the third pairing. at the end of the day thought that's a lot of young and ifs, wish it was more of a sure thing.

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