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06-06-2010, 10:06 PM
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TO VAN:
Alex Semin
Anton Gustafsson

TO CAPS:
Jordan Schroeder
Cody Hodgson
4th round pick (115)

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06-06-2010, 10:07 PM
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doesn't fit our cap structure. pass.

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06-06-2010, 10:09 PM
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I really don't like this.

Semin is UFA after next year and will have a 6M cap hit that we cannot afford without dumping some salary or having a weak team.

That and he was poor in the playoffs and weighs like 170 pounds soaking wet.

Yes, sure he is a pure sniper with a ridiculous shot...playing in the SE division of the Eastern conference. Our GM has stressed that the team needs more size, grit, and veteran players who have been in the playoffs before. Semin does not fit this mold.

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06-06-2010, 10:11 PM
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Pass on Semin as well, not a playoff type performer. Especially for our two top prospects.

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06-06-2010, 10:15 PM
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could be the worst trade i've ever seen, next to pronger for sbisa and 2 firsts

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06-06-2010, 10:29 PM
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Can I get a HELL NO, up in this *****!

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06-06-2010, 10:31 PM
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Especially for our two top prospects.
Agreed, it is a horrible proposal because we already are stacked with RW's veteran/rookie/prospects you name it we got it on the RW sans a big gritty intense guy.

In addition as everyone else says, the cap! can't afford to spend that much on him. The cap space is going to be spent on upgrading our porous defense, which is a big time need for us.


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06-06-2010, 10:35 PM
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could be the worst trade i've ever seen, next to pronger for sbisa and 2 firsts
While I agree that it is a terrible proposal I think the Pronger deal worked out pretty well for the Flyers.

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While I agree that it is a terrible proposal I think the Pronger deal worked out pretty well for the Flyers.
He meant for the Ducks I would assume.

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06-06-2010, 10:42 PM
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Honestly the only POSSIBLE players I'd like to get from Washington are Karl Alzner and/or John Carlson. And it is extremely doubtful either would move. Washington and Vancouver are very identical teams in structure looking for the same things. Semin does not make our team better at his cost (in players and salary). Now if Washington is interested in a Schroeder + a pick for Alzner then I'm all in this proposal doesn't help Vancouver at all.

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06-06-2010, 10:53 PM
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06-06-2010, 11:04 PM
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No thanks, Semin is a great sniper, but he doesn't adress this teams most pressing needs. Wasting cap space on him and giving up our top two prospects doesn't seem like a good idea.

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No thank you

Alzner

for Bieksa

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06-06-2010, 11:33 PM
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Yes, and that fourth round pick is the deal breaker.


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06-07-2010, 12:38 AM
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Suppose by some wierd conflux of planets we did land Semin. Gillis could hold out for an awesome return at the deadline. In the meantime we might get some use out of Shirokov.
I think if manna falls from heaven you should accept gratefully. Especially since Gillis doesn't do trades in general and never trades prospects specifically.
So, if Washington phones up trying to dump Semin, yeah, I'd take him.

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06-07-2010, 01:30 AM
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Ovechkin for Hordy and a 7th

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Semin for Bieksa, O'Brien and Ryan Johnson. The Caps need good defensemen and toughness.

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06-07-2010, 11:37 AM
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We need a defenceman, not the drum beater.

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06-07-2010, 11:56 AM
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Yeah a 6 million dollar, soft forward is about the last thing the Canucks need to add right now. Here's an offer that makes more sense for Semin:

Bieksa (3.75)
Raymond (RFA)

Semin (6)

Sheds us of Bieksa, salaries are about even, and the 2nd line LW spot is upgraded. Not sure Washington would be interested in this, but makes more sense for the Canucks.

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06-07-2010, 11:59 AM
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Yeah a 6 million dollar, soft forward is about the last thing the Canucks need to add right now. Here's an offer that makes more sense for Semin:

Bieksa (3.75)
Raymond (RFA)

Semin (6)

Sheds us of Bieksa, salaries are about even, and the 2nd line LW spot is upgraded. Not sure Washington would be interested in this, but makes more sense for the Canucks.
Yes, so we can have an entire second line ghost on us when the games actually mean something!

Semin-Kesler-Burrows

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06-07-2010, 12:02 PM
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Yes, so we can have an entire second line ghost on us when the games actually mean something!

Semin-Kesler-Burrows
wow, you spell Sedins wrong so far off, its not even funny

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06-07-2010, 12:04 PM
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TO VAN:
Alex Semin
Anton Gustafsson

TO CAPS:
Jordan Schroeder
Cody Hodgson
4th round pick (115)
Absolutely not, from a Canuck fan POV.

The Canucks have historically had a pretty bare prospect cupboard, and this proposal would see us give up our two top flight prospects in exchange for an admittedly talented forward who pulls a disappearing act in the playoffs.

Ignoring the cap implications and that you win in the modern NHL with young players on low contracts, I don't think Semin is a piece that is going to put Vancouver over the top, and that's before Gustafsson even enters the equation. No thank you.

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06-07-2010, 12:09 PM
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Wow, so we can get rid of our only prospects showing promise, AND get even softer up front? Pull the trigger Gillis!

Washington and Van have roughly the same strengths/weaknesses, (with the exception of their defensive prospects of which I am jealous). They are not good trade partners for the Canucks.

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06-07-2010, 02:45 PM
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If Semin was a proven playoff performer and we wanted to go for it all next season then it might be something you consider. But he's exactly what we don't need to get past the second round. We would potentially be a better regular season team for one season with this trade, but that's about it.

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