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05-18-2004, 05:13 PM
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i like sutter, but hes been far from "the epitome of class this series"
LOL@Tony!

Care to elaborate? or do you always post strictly based upon your factless opinions? What has Darryl done to prove me wrong?

We all know all the embarrassing acts the Wilsons have done this series, so what pray tell do you think Darryl has done to lower himself to their level?

By staying out of the dirty mudslinging and constant whining Darryl has done just the opposite. He has been the true "epitome of class".

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05-18-2004, 06:15 PM
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LOL@Tony!

Care to elaborate? or do you always post strictly based upon your factless opinions? What has Darryl done to prove me wrong?

We all know all the embarrassing acts the Wilsons have done this series, so what pray tell do you think Darryl has done to lower himself to their level?

By staying out of the dirty mudslinging and constant whining Darryl has done just the opposite. He has been the true "epitome of class".
uh what the ****

have you watched this series at all

sutter gooning it up in games 3 and 4 was not classy

and this is the first i have heard of the wilsons 'constant whining' and 'embarrassing acts'

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05-18-2004, 06:32 PM
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Oh, woe onto the goaltender that comes out of the crease to cut down the angle. How dare they try and stop pucks.
Well he shouldn't take the "dive" after getting into the driving lane. He wants to stay safe then stay in his crease.

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05-18-2004, 11:06 PM
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uh what the ****

have you watched this series at all

sutter gooning it up in games 3 and 4 was not classy

and this is the first i have heard of the wilsons 'constant whining' and 'embarrassing acts'
The difference?

Sutter makes no bones that he wants to make it a pain in the ass to play at the Saddledome. Kind of the "Backstreet bullies." If you're going down, you're going down fighting. Half the stuff wasn't even worth regular season minors, and all of what was displayed was at worst a 2 minute minor. Mull over that for a second. THAT is what everyone is *****ing about? A couple plays with 2 minute minors at most? Oh please.

As for Wilson's whining, it was his whole "Black eye on hockey" and such, after Game 3. GM Doug Wilson also threw an immature spaz and starting throwing and breaking chairs in the media lounge before Eric Francis, the local sports hack, told him to grow up, and called security to escort him out. How's that for a black eye on hockey? Not that I'm going to whine about it, but I'd like to hear Wilson's comments on Harvey and his "black eye on hockey" cross-check as well.

So let's stop whining about a few pokes and tussles, ok?

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05-18-2004, 11:19 PM
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uh what the ****

have you watched this series at all

sutter gooning it up in games 3 and 4 was not classy

and this is the first i have heard of the wilsons 'constant whining' and 'embarrassing acts'
Sutter didn't "goon" anyone, you're 100% delusional.

Pretty tough to see I guess when you are part of the problem.


Here are some sample clips about Ron and Doug Wilson's behavior this series.

Ron Wilson:
"The only thing I was disappointed in was that he wasn't given a match penalty in the first period when he head-butted Kyle McLaren and that was missed," said Wilson, who then suggested there was some sort of Canadian bias involved in the coverage of the alleged incident. "

"In typical Ron Wilson fashion, the Sharks coach went way over the top by calling the Flames' late hijinks a black eye for hockey. "

Doug Wilson:
"...This, apparently, did not sit well with GM Doug Wilson, who was busy pulling a hissy-fit in the press box, kicking his chair and generally being a real grownup about the whole thing. Despite the fact his own player's indiscretion set the whole thing off, Wilson stood screaming at the ice -- a no-no that would get any journalist turfed from the premises"


Real mature those Wilsons I tell ya.

What have you heard about the truly most vicious act in the series? Harvey's wicked cross-check to the face to the defenseless Gelinas who was on all-fours getting up from the ice at the time. Sutter shooting his mouth off in the press about it being a "black-eye" for the game? Sutter calling for a suspension? Sutter kicking chairs and pulling hissy-fits? Flames fans everywhere calling it "goonery"? Let me seeeee..... ah Nope.


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05-19-2004, 12:37 AM
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The Captain does have a point here.

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05-19-2004, 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Here are some sample clips about Ron and Doug Wilson's behavior this series.

Ron Wilson:
"The only thing I was disappointed in was that he wasn't given a match penalty in the first period when he head-butted Kyle McLaren and that was missed," said Wilson, who then suggested there was some sort of Canadian bias involved in the coverage of the alleged incident. "

"In typical Ron Wilson fashion, the Sharks coach went way over the top by calling the Flames' late hijinks a black eye for hockey. "

Doug Wilson:
"...This, apparently, did not sit well with GM Doug Wilson, who was busy pulling a hissy-fit in the press box, kicking his chair and generally being a real grownup about the whole thing. Despite the fact his own player's indiscretion set the whole thing off, Wilson stood screaming at the ice -- a no-no that would get any journalist turfed from the premises"

Real mature those Wilsons I tell ya.
Just for the record, the second two clips were in the local CALGARY papers -- papers dedicated to selling newspapers to CALGARY residents presented from a CALGARY point-of-view.

It should be noted that Doug Wilson is the only GM in the NHL who actually sits with the press, and makes himself available for interviews during play. Did he go over the top when he kicked the chair? Sure, but calling him immature when he's the most approachable GM for the press, and even granted the Calgary Sun hack an interview to explain himself (when he could have just ignored the guy who, IMO, deserves some of the blame for spurring Wilson on by telling him to "grow up" "shut up" and "be professional") shows his class.

BTW, if you just want to includy the CALGARY Sun's take on Doug Wilson, you also could have included these quotes from Francis...

"As the only GM ever to request a seat in the 'Dome's press box, Wilson knows it's a privilege he has earned through years of play and management. His motivation for slumming with his city's beat writers stems from his open-door policy, which allows media -- and, thus, the fans -- to gain insight on various aspects of their team.

It's an attitude worthy of praise."

and...

"Truth is, we need more people like Wilson in our game -- caring, educated and well-respected for knowing the importance of being accessible and accountable."

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam040515/col_francis-sun.html

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05-19-2004, 09:45 AM
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Just for the record, the second two clips were in the local CALGARY papers -- papers dedicated to selling newspapers to CALGARY residents presented from a CALGARY point-of-view.

It should be noted that Doug Wilson is the only GM in the NHL who actually sits with the press, and makes himself available for interviews during play. Did he go over the top when he kicked the chair? Sure, but calling him immature when he's the most approachable GM for the press, and even granted the Calgary Sun hack an interview to explain himself (when he could have just ignored the guy who, IMO, deserves some of the blame for spurring Wilson on by telling him to "grow up" "shut up" and "be professional") shows his class.

BTW, if you just want to includy the CALGARY Sun's take on Doug Wilson, you also could have included these quotes from Francis...

"As the only GM ever to request a seat in the 'Dome's press box, Wilson knows it's a privilege he has earned through years of play and management. His motivation for slumming with his city's beat writers stems from his open-door policy, which allows media -- and, thus, the fans -- to gain insight on various aspects of their team.

It's an attitude worthy of praise."

and...

"Truth is, we need more people like Wilson in our game -- caring, educated and well-respected for knowing the importance of being accessible and accountable."

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam040515/col_francis-sun.html
Sure, the game does need more Wilson when he is acting "caring, educated, accessible and accountable." Doesn't mean he wasn't acting like an A-hole. A journalist called him on it. What's the big deal. He probably realizes he acted like an A-hole and might even offer up an apology to the folks in the press for his reaction.

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05-19-2004, 10:24 AM
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uh what the ****

have you watched this series at all

sutter gooning it up in games 3 and 4 was not classy

and this is the first i have heard of the wilsons 'constant whining' and 'embarrassing acts'
To quote you...."uh what the ****

have you watched this series at all"

Wilson called the Simon-Rathje fight a "black eye for hockey". I'd call that whining. Especially when you look the brutality of the Harvey crosscheck to Gelinas' head which Wilson didn't reference at all.

Sutter gooned it up? Last time I checked he doesn't have a remote control device that controls the actions of guys like Chris Simon. Simon has 20 goals so far this season, if you're trying to write him off as a "goon" then I have to question how closely you follow hockey...

And if that's not what you were talking about with your "gooning it up in games 3 and 4" statement then I really have no idea what you're talking about.

Obviously you're not interested in an objective view since you so clearly are focussing on one side of things...

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05-19-2004, 02:11 PM
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Sutter didn't "goon" anyone, you're 100% delusional.

Pretty tough to see I guess when you are part of the problem.


Here are some sample clips about Ron and Doug Wilson's behavior this series.

Ron Wilson:
"The only thing I was disappointed in was that he wasn't given a match penalty in the first period when he head-butted Kyle McLaren and that was missed," said Wilson, who then suggested there was some sort of Canadian bias involved in the coverage of the alleged incident. "

"In typical Ron Wilson fashion, the Sharks coach went way over the top by calling the Flames' late hijinks a black eye for hockey. "

Doug Wilson:
"...This, apparently, did not sit well with GM Doug Wilson, who was busy pulling a hissy-fit in the press box, kicking his chair and generally being a real grownup about the whole thing. Despite the fact his own player's indiscretion set the whole thing off, Wilson stood screaming at the ice -- a no-no that would get any journalist turfed from the premises"


Real mature those Wilsons I tell ya.

What have you heard about the truly most vicious act in the series? Harvey's wicked cross-check to the face to the defenseless Gelinas who was on all-fours getting up from the ice at the time. Sutter shooting his mouth off in the press about it being a "black-eye" for the game? Sutter calling for a suspension? Sutter kicking chairs and pulling hissy-fits? Flames fans everywhere calling it "goonery"? Let me seeeee..... ah Nope.
like i said, this is the first i have heard of the wilsons' stories

if they are factual then i agree with you on this one...

however, i do find it interesting that this story gets attention nowhere else except in calgary

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05-19-2004, 02:13 PM
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Sutter gooned it up? Last time I checked he doesn't have a remote control device that controls the actions of guys like Chris Simon. Simon has 20 goals so far this season, if you're trying to write him off as a "goon" then I have to question how closely you follow hockey...

And if that's not what you were talking about with your "gooning it up in games 3 and 4" statement then I really have no idea what you're talking about.

Obviously you're not interested in an objective view since you so clearly are focussing on one side of things...
yea youre right

sutter wouldnt do such a thing as send people out at the end of a game to 'send a message'

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05-19-2004, 02:16 PM
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yea youre right

sutter wouldnt do such a thing as send people out at the end of a game to 'send a message'
Well you didn't see him put the "goon" Oliwa on the ice now did you? Nope, you didn't see that.

You are aware that Simon often plays our first powerplay unit? Not sure how sending out someone who has played on our 1st line, is currently playing on our checking line and 1st PP unit is "gooning it up."

Sounds like you just like to whine.

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like i said, this is the first i have heard of the wilsons' stories

if they are factual then i agree with you on this one...

however, i do find it interesting that this story gets attention nowhere else except in calgary
Obviously you don't watch the press conferences. Not surprising. Ron Wilson made his infamous black eye for hockey comment in the post game press conference.

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like i said, this is the first i have heard of the wilsons' stories

if they are factual then i agree with you on this one...

however, i do find it interesting that this story gets attention nowhere else except in calgary
They were all reported here in SJ, as well as on SJSharks.com... just not with the zeal as the Calgary press portrayed them with (specifically the Doug Wilson in the pressbox thing).

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Well you didn't see him put the "goon" Oliwa on the ice now did you? Nope, you didn't see that.
Then again, Sutter hasn't dressed Oliwa since Game 3 when all that foolishness happened either... probably a smart move on his part.

As for him not putting Oliwa out... well, that would have been really obvious since the Simon and Iginla penalties put the Flames down 5-on-3 with less than a minute left, and I don't think Oliwa is your best PK guy. If Sutter had put Oliwa out, the league might have suspended him again, especially if Oliwa attacked someone, because it would have been 100% obvious what he was looking for.

http://www.nhl.com/onthefly/scoreboa...s/SC030323.HTM

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