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Montreal Gazette: Buffalo, Columbus, Anaheim & NJ seriously interested in Kaberle

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06-10-2010, 02:46 PM
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According to the article, Kaberle could be traded without being informed of the trade first? How is that possible, I thought the whole issue was that he had a NTC? Did his NTC expire?

edit: Oh I see found the answer at capgeek.

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KNOWN CLAUSES: NTC (can designate up to 10 teams he will accept at trade to; if his team misses the playoffs in 2008-09 or 2009-10, he can be traded from the following entry draft until Aug. 15)

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According to the article, Kaberle could be traded without being informed of the trade first? How is that possible, I thought the whole issue was that he had a NTC? Did his NTC expire?
There is a window that opens in his NTC whenever the Leafs miss the playoffs.


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We'll go the balls route thank you very much.

Columbus is looking to build with youth. It seemed to work pretty well for Chicago. Why would we give up on youth for 1 year of a player. Granted, that player is very good. But Columbus isn't going to be competing for the cup next year, so giving up a good young prospect, for a 1 year rental of somebody isn't really going to help things too much.
It did work well for Chicago, to bad it's worked out terribly for Columbus so far.

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According to the article, Kaberle could be traded without being informed of the trade first? How is that possible, I thought the whole issue was that he had a NTC? Did his NTC expire?
There is a window open from the draft until reg. season when the NTC is void.

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Toronto doesnt do it.
How and why does that deal not get done?

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Soooooo... anytime a newspaper or decent media outlet writes/post something about Kaberle a new thread needs to pop up?

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How and why does that deal not get done?
I'm pretty sure there was an invisible there

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There is a window that opens in his NTC whenever the Leafs miss the playoffs. I believe it starts July 1 and ends at the end of August.
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There is a window open from the draft until reg. season when the NTC is void.
Thanks.

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kaberle straight up for cormier and clarkson

get it done burkie!!

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Lupul, Ryan and 12th overall for Kaberle
ok, ill sign right now.

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kaberle straight up for cormier and clarkson

get it done burkie!!
cormier is in Atlanta (part of the Kovy trade)

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This post is "epic failure"

You still believe Kaberle will bring a 1st, a roster player and a solid prospect like you did a year ago? I think all of those posts were epic failures.

Why do you think the Leafs still have the guy? On deadline day for the last two seasons Burke goes on Toronto radio stations to explain how the market "dried up."

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06-10-2010, 03:08 PM
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Just thought id bring this to your attention

traded dealine 2010

To Washington:
D JOE CORVO

To Carolina:
D BRIAN POTHIER
F OSKAR OSALA
2011 2ND ROUND PICK

Are you trying to tell me 1 year of kabs will net less than 20 games of corvo?
I didn't know you wanted another team's junk and a 2nd round pick. I suspect Burke could get junk and a 2nd. I suggested a legitimate Burkie type truculent, testosterone laden prospect and TWO 2nds.

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I didn't know you wanted another team's junk and a 2nd round pick. I suspect Burke could get junk and a 2nd. I suggested a legitimate Burkie type truculent, testosterone laden prospect and TWO 2nds.
you said prospect and a 2nd (another 2nd if he resigns)? all im saying is hes not a 1 year rental to the leafs therefore he wont be treated as one but he is a rental everywhere esle so he will be treated as one. If a deal goes down it will be somewhere in between what burke wants and what other teams are willing to give so instead of a 1st + prospect + player it will be along the lines of

very good prospect and a 1st eg. Kassian + 1st

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2nd line winger + 1st

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Off year Top 3 winger

something along those lines

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cormier is in Atlanta (part of the Kovy trade)
ah yes, i forgot about that.

now i'm sad

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you said prospect and a 2nd (another 2nd if he resigns)? all im saying is hes not a 1 year rental to the leafs therefore he wont be treated as one but he is a rental everywhere esle so he will be treated as one. If a deal goes down it will be somewhere in between what burke wants and what other teams are willing to give so instead of a 1st + prospect + player it will be along the lines of

very good prospect and a 1st eg. Kassian + 1st

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2nd line winger + 1st

or

Off year Top 3 winger

something along those lines
I don't believe he could get the Sabre's first alone, much less Kassian and their 1st. The days of Jeff Carter (as a solid prospect) and a 1st are long gone. Cliff should have forced Kab's hand then.


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Just thought id bring this to your attention

traded dealine 2010

To Washington:
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To Carolina:
D BRIAN POTHIER
F OSKAR OSALA
2011 2ND ROUND PICK

Are you trying to tell me 1 year of kabs will net less than 20 games of corvo?
Apples and Oranges. Players have more value at the trade deadline. Teams are willing to pay more for a player to help them either make the playoffs or take them deep in the playoffs. A player is way more valuable in that situation than a player to a team that doesn't even know if they will be in a position to make the playoffs.

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I don't believe he could get Atlanta's first alone, much less Kassian and their 1st. The days of Jeff Carter (as a solid prospect) and a 1st are long gone. Cliff should have forced Kab's hand then.
obviously thats a steep price but its pretty much guaranteed kabs would resign there they are division rivals


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Apples and Oranges. Players have more value at the trade deadline. Teams are willing to pay more for a player to help them either make the playoffs or take them deep in the playoffs. A player is way more valuable in that situation than a player to a team that doesn't even know if they will be in a position to make the playoffs.
im not even goning to comment on this

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obviously thats a steep price but its pretty much guaranteed kabs would resign there they are division rivals and kassian is rumored to be having troubles with management
Really?

How I heard it was everything was going well and then he got in a bar fight. The Sabres decided to hold contract talks while that stuff is going on (rumor is it's partly to protect him because he's still an average Joe in terms of money, not an NHL player).

Obviously management wasn't happy about the assault charge, but I don't think it's anywhere near what I'd call 'troubles'

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Really?

How I heard it was everything was going well and then he got in a bar fight. The Sabres decided to hold contract talks while that stuff is going on (rumor is it's partly to protect him because he's still an average Joe in terms of money, not an NHL player).

Obviously management wasn't happy about the assault charge, but I don't think it's anywhere near what I'd call 'troubles'
never mind i guess i was wrong o well the other points above are still good arguments

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i could be wrong i dont remember exactly where i saw it but there was a quote saying that buffalo rather not pay signing bonus's to someone who may not be in the orginization next season
hmm, could be. Haven't really followed the situation too closely and there hasn't been a ton of attention paid to it in local sports media, more just off hand stuff.

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hmm, could be. Haven't really followed the situation too closely and there haven't been a ton of attention paid to it in local sports media, more just off hand stuff.
well i cant find it now and to protect my self from being flammed by Sabres fan im going to admit that im wrong

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well i cant find it now and to protect my self from being flammed by Sabres fan im going to admit that im wrong
good

the delay in negotiations is essentially a slap on the wrist for his actions, a wakeup call, but i believe he'll be signed by camp if he shows some maturity and lessons learned (and if he proves he's actually ready developmentally wise over the summer)

i just think the odds are slim that the Sabres move him, they need his snarl and havent had a power forward like him in how long? and to move him just up the road and have to play against him for years to come, for what could possibly be a 1yr rental? slim chance.

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I think Tomas Kaberle would be very happy re-signing in Buffalo should he be traded there. It's close to his old home, so not much of a change for him and his family, he stays in the Eastern Conference, and he plays in another hockey-mad city with great fans.
It would probably be the best scenario for him. Probably wouldnt even have to move.

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