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06-21-2010, 12:01 AM
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what he said
And it's here:

Florida selects D Howard McNamara





1916 Stanley Cup Champions
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Defenseman Howard McNamara was one of the biggest players of his era, tipping to scales at 240 pounds.

McNamara loved to play the body and be physical. It was rare that an opponent would openly challenge him in the corners, usually outweighing them by at least 50 or 60 pounds. In
Should Howard McNamara be in the Hall of Fame?:
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The tale of the tape:

* George, a defenceman, had 39 goals and 13 assists over 8 seasons or 138 games (excluding exhibition game totals and his 2 goals in 3 playoff games). That's 0.28 goals per game or 0.38 points per game.

* Howard, also a defenceman, had 47 goals and 17 assists over 11 seasons or 134 games (excluding exhibition game totals and he had no playoff points). That's 0.35 goals per game, or 0.48 points per game.

Since the two often played on the same team, in the same league, and with a similar style, these statistics are probably comparable. If so, the advantage goes to Howard.

Howard was also known for his size (6 feet, 240 lbs - which was HUGE in that era) and for obvious reasons, dominated opponents physically.In a letter to Mike Rodden, sportswriter and former NHL referee, Selke wrote:

"Between ourselves Mike - when George was admitted [to the Hall] Howard's wife told a friend of mine that George could not carry Howard's skates. I asked [Art] Ross and Lester [Patrick] about this and they said, which one was Howard?"



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F/D Dolly Swift

1894 Retro Hart
Most Goals Between 1887-1899
1st scoring 1887
5th scoring 1889
2nd scoring 1893
1st scoring 1894
3rd scoring 1895
March 1895 Stanley Cup Champion
December 1896 Stanley Cup Champion
2nd scoring 1896
6th scoring 1897
March 1897 Stanley Cup Champion
December 1897 Stanley Cup Champion
March 1898 Stanley Cup Champion
February 1899 Stanley Cup Champion

(Thanks to Dreakmur for scoring finishes)

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Arthur "Dolly" Swift played for the Montreal Victorias as far back as 1884. He had a most unnatural style -- he carried the puck ahead of him, stickhandling with one hand, which was apparently quite distracting to play against. In any case, he was one of the more intelligent, innovative hockey players of hockey's pre-modern era. Swift was one half of the first bona fide player rivalry in hockey, the other half being Weldy Young. Swift and Young clashed whenever Quebec and Ottawa met, their most famous set-to coming during a February 23, 1895 match in l'Ancien Capital. On this night the two men put on a most barbaric display that resulted in the Quebec club's suspension for the rest of the season and playoffs.

Although Swift would often be used on defense, he was a natural rover. He hung up the skates after the 1899 season, seeing action in World War One as a Canadian Brigadier General.


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06-21-2010, 12:11 AM
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You might think it's too early for a coach, but he's quite clearly the best one left - Viktor Tikhonov.

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06-21-2010, 05:30 AM
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Damn.. we were hoping McNamara would fall.

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06-21-2010, 06:15 AM
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VanI and 70's own my One-Man list, if Billy or any of the skipped picks select my player, obviously just skip me and I'll make my selection later today.

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06-21-2010, 07:43 AM
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You might think it's too early for a coach, but he's quite clearly the best one left - Viktor Tikhonov.
Damn.

There was a very good chance Mark and I were taking him with our current pick so I don't think it was too early to take him.

We will pick shortly.

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06-21-2010, 08:20 AM
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Les As listpick defenseman Joe Watson
Great.

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06-21-2010, 08:54 AM
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Charlotte Clippers select LW Alex Tanguay

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He was chosen 12th overall by the Colorado Avalanche in the 1998 NHL Entry Draft. After his final season in Halifax, Tanguay joined the AHL's Hershey Bears before making his NHL debut in 1999-00, scoring 17 goals as an NHL rookie. The next year Tanguay broke through with 27 goals and registered 21 post-season points while helping the Avalanche capture their second the Stanley Cup in franchise history. Tanguay scored two key goals in the seventh game of the finals versus the New Jersey Devils and was a key to the fortunes of the club after the injuries felled star pivot Peter Forsberg.

A versatile forward, Tanguay's offensive numbers dropped in 2001-02 before rebounding the following year with 67 points. In 2003-04, Tanguay established a career high in assists (54) tying teammate Joe Sakic for second in the league and points (79) despite missing 13 games in the latter stages of the season.

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06-21-2010, 09:16 AM
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Texas selects left winger Jim Riley, who played seven seasons with the Metropolitans between 1916 and 1924, a run that included four all-star team selections (one 1st and 3 2nds) for him and two championships for his team. He also finished second in the league goal scoring race twice, lighting the lamp 23 times in 1920-21 and 16 times in 1921-22.



He also scored a key OT goal in the sold-out home opener in the new building in Seattle in the 1916-17 season, spurring a season-long fan base and allowing the team to edge Vancouver by one game and avoid a playoff against a healthy Cyclone Taylor, the Mets going on that year to compete for the Stanley Cup against the Habs.

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06-21-2010, 09:45 AM
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I didn't get a pm but madarcand is offline and I saw that our team is on the clock so I'll make the pick for us.

We pick Vincent Lukac, Right Winger, out of Kosice, Slovakia.


One of the better Slovakian players of all time, Lukac scored 393 goals in 518 league games for his team.

More On Lukac can be found at the following link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Luk%C3%A1%C4%8D


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06-21-2010, 10:11 AM
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Damn.. we were hoping McNamara would fall.
Same here.

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Les As listpick defenseman Joe Watson
Pretty good one. We looked at him long and hard as a #6 in the main draft, particularly because he was one of Shero's boys.

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06-21-2010, 10:23 AM
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The St. Mary's Huskies select F Haviland Routh.

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06-21-2010, 10:31 AM
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The St. Mary's Huskies select F Haviland Routh.
selected by the Bankers last round

re-pick

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06-21-2010, 10:34 AM
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Huskies select F/D Fred Whitcroft.

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06-21-2010, 10:47 AM
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Huskies select F/D Fred Whitcroft.
That's a better pick anyway.

He was perhaps hockey's first true mercenary.

(not sure where you got that he could play any D, though)

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06-21-2010, 11:02 AM
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That's a better pick anyway.

He was perhaps hockey's first true mercenary.

(not sure where you got that he could play any D, though)

We were torn between the two it was basically a toss-up. Regarding him playing D on his SIHR profile it has him being listed as a utility player, does that serve any merit for him playing defense?

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06-21-2010, 11:05 AM
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We won't be playing him at defense regardless, so I guess it was pointless to even include the D part. I know I saw it somewhere though.

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06-21-2010, 11:10 AM
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I've definitely seen that Whitcroft played a position other than forward (was in coverpoint or rover?) but agree that he's best used as a forward.

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06-21-2010, 11:18 AM
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We were torn between the two it was basically a toss-up. Regarding him playing D on his SIHR profile it has him being listed as a utility player, does that serve any merit for him playing defense?
Possibly. But still all the game summaries I have seen, show him at forward.

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I've definitely seen that Whitcroft played a position other than forward (was in coverpoint or rover?) but agree that he's best used as a forward.
agree. Regardless of whether he played a few games on D or not, he should be a forward.

I think the value in having him is that he appears to have been a versatile forward who played any position so you can just use him to fill whatever lineup spot needs filling.

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06-21-2010, 11:29 AM
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Possibly. But still all the game summaries I have seen, show him at forward.



agree. Regardless of whether he played a few games on D or not, he should be a forward.

I think the value in having him is that he appears to have been a versatile forward who played any position so you can just use him to fill whatever lineup spot needs filling.
Exactly What stalberg and I were thinking. Top line talent who can fill any spot.

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06-21-2010, 11:39 AM
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Exactly What stalberg and I were thinking. Top line talent who can fill any spot.
"Top line talent" might be pushing it, only because his time spent in a top league was very, very minimal. I could buy him as the "3rd man" on a top line.

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06-21-2010, 11:42 AM
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I'll take C Mike Richards and RW Cliff Koroll.

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I'll take C Mike Richards and RW Cliff Koroll.
Oh man, that hurts. I just finished my shortlists and was licking my chops at the team I could put together. Richards was #2 on my list for 4th line C, and Koroll would have been my top choice for 3rd line RW.

Much, much better spot for Mike Richards to be selected, not in the 500s as an ATD 4th line center (and prior to completing another very strong season and playoff and being a cup finalist captain, no less)

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I think Mike Richards is an ideal 3rd line center at this level.

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My search thing won't work...but if Dmitri Yushkevich is there, I'll take him.

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Oh man, that hurts. I just finished my shortlists and was licking my chops at the team I could put together. Richards was #2 on my list for 4th line C, and Koroll would have been my top choice for 3rd line RW.

Much, much better spot for Mike Richards to be selected, not in the 500s as an ATD 4th line center (and prior to completing another very strong season and playoff and being a cup finalist captain, no less)
Yeah, I like the guy, but he went before Ryan Getzlaf a couple of times I think, which is just ridiculous.

GBC ranks him very VERY high, so that could have something to do with it; I know we took him too high a couple of times because we wanted a player we actually liked as an ATD spare.

That being said, Richards and Koroll will play on my third line.

With my soft, one way top line of Ogrodnick - Pederson - Cloutier, I'm going to need a top notch two way line to let those guys be the streaky offensive unit they'll need to be.

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