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06-10-2010, 01:53 PM
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Redden from NYR? - WADE REDDEN BUYOUT FROM CAPGEEK.COM
2010-2011: $1,916,667
2011-2012: $1,916,667
2012-2013: $3,416,667
2013-2014: $3,416,667
2014-2015: $1,916,667
2015-2016: $1,916,667
2016-2017: $1,916,667
2017-2018: $1,916,667
At least it's not Yashin who counts against the Isles cap for 4.7M this year and then 2.2M for another 4....although I suppose that it fairly irrelevant to the Isles since they'll never get to the cap anyway.

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06-10-2010, 01:55 PM
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The Habs will buy out the final year of Laraque's contract.

Hamrlik might be bought out if they can't find other ways of clearing some cap space.

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06-10-2010, 01:56 PM
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During the season you save the capspace. But if you place Redden in the minors and replace him with players then when the offseason roles around both Redden's and the replacement players caphits will count towards the Rangers offseason cap space.

Who knows, maybe it's the right move for the Rangers to make. But I'm just saying that it doesn't seem realistic to me.
Yes but you have the extra 10% wiggle room in the offseason. So that pretty much allows them to go over the cap by Redden's contract and then dump him in the minors to make up for it in September or whenever the exact date is.

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06-10-2010, 01:58 PM
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Because its not like they dont have any cap space at all. They actually have about 12 million or so before buring redden
But how many positions need to be filled? How many RFA have to be qualified? I'm sure Ranger's fans know a lot more about the condition of the team than I do. I just think that sending a NHL vet to the minors with more than $20M owed to him is not a move that can be realistically expected to happen. It's much more likely that they either buy him out or play him and hope he improves.

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06-10-2010, 02:06 PM
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But how many positions need to be filled? How many RFA have to be qualified? I'm sure Ranger's fans know a lot more about the condition of the team than I do. I just think that sending a NHL vet to the minors with more than $20M owed to him is not a move that can be realistically expected to happen. It's much more likely that they either buy him out or play him and hope he improves.
buying him out would me much worse than dumping him in the minors. He will never be better. He has been on the decline for about 4-5 years now

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06-10-2010, 02:09 PM
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Sarich from CGY? - CORY SARICH BUYOUT FROM CAPGEEK.COM
2010-2011: $1,066,667
2011-2012: $1,466,667
2012-2013: $1,166,667
2013-2014: $1,166,667

Redden from NYR? - WADE REDDEN BUYOUT FROM CAPGEEK.COM
2010-2011: $1,916,667
2011-2012: $1,916,667
2012-2013: $3,416,667
2013-2014: $3,416,667
2014-2015: $1,916,667
2015-2016: $1,916,667
2016-2017: $1,916,667
2017-2018: $1,916,667
I thought buyout amounts were equal throughout the years...basically 33% of the original cap hit for twice the length??

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I thought buyout amounts were equal throughout the years...basically 33% of the original cap hit for twice the length??
If the original contract was a set amount year to year and didn't change, then yes it would be.

However with contracts that are either back or front loaded you notice the difference.

http://www.nhlscap.com/cap_faq.htm#buyouts

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[T]eams may ... buy-out player contracts for a portion of the remaining value of the contract paid over twice the remaining length of the contract. If the player is
-- Under the age of 26 at the time of termination, the buyout amount is 1/3rd the remaining value
-- 26 or older at the time of termination, the buyout amount is 2/3rd the remaining value.

This is set forth in 13(d) of the Standard Player Contract (Exhibit 1 in the CBA). The remainder of this explanation applies to buyouts that took place after July 29, 2005, and assumes the player was not 35 or older when signing his SPC (in which case a buyout does not reduce the cap hit).

When a player is bought out, the team still takes a cap hit for the player over twice the remaining length of the contract. The amount of the cap hit (by year) is determined as follows:

1. Take the actual salary due for each remaining year.
2. Take the Averaged Player Salary (cap hit) for the current contract
3. Calculate the buy-out amount (as described above)
4. Spread the buy-out amount evenly over twice the remaining years of the contract
5. Take the number in #1 and subtract the number in #4. This is the “buyout savings”.
6. Take the cap hit from #2 and subtract the buyout savings from #5.

NOTE: This calculation has to be done for each year - meaning that the cap hit on a buyout will not necessarily be the same for all years (see examples below). It can even be negative (meaning the team gets a credit). However, it’s critical to have the correct information for #1 and #2 to get the correct cap hit. The cap hit on a buyout is only the same for all affected years if the remaining yearly salary is the same for all years. If it varies, then the cap hit on a buyout will vary.

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06-10-2010, 02:18 PM
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I doubt Sarich would get bought out. He finished with a decent +/- last year and is still a solid defensive defenceman. He could likely be traded although I doubt he'd bring much back.

Now Staios I could see getting a buyout. Or Kotalik - although the Flames are desperate enough for forwards that they'll likely keep him.
Sarich and Kotalik would be too expensive to buy out. It would have have to be Staios if Sutter decides to go the buy out route. That said, why buy any of those players out? Surely some other team would be willing to take Staios or Sarich for a low round pick, mediocre prospect, or borderline NHLer

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06-10-2010, 02:31 PM
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The Flames never buy out players they just send them to Europe like Nilson , but there is a first time for everything I like the Sarich buyout and i could see Kotalik getting bought out too or sent to Russia

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Michael Ryder could be bought out ... though it's far from certain.

He has one year remaining at $4M.

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06-10-2010, 04:32 PM
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I think there will be less buyouts that people think. Redden will NOT be bought out. He will be playing in the minors for the Americans until he decides to retire.

I could see a couple people already mentioned like Brind Amour, Brashear, Cheechoo (although that is a rough one), and Laraque. Otherwise, teams will bury guys in the minors. Sarich won't get bought out because D. Sutter has too much pride.



That and Sarich is still a very good player. Man I love all the sheep on HF, one person says a bad thing about Sarich and all the sudden he is an unmovable contract? Sarich if traded would fetch a 3rd quite easily. Quite frankly I don't want him traded. Flames could afford to trade him because Regher and him play similar games, but it is that defensive core that put us as one of the best in GA.

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