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06-11-2010, 11:17 AM
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Goaltenders Available.

Here is a list from NHLnumbers.com of available goaltenders for next year and their ages cap hits and salary hits. I am interested to see who from this list most interests you guys. Lets be realistic....

Turco, Marty 35 DAL G UFA 5.700 5.400
Nabokov, Evgeni 35 SJS G UFA 5.375 6.000
Theodore, Jose 34 WAS G UFA 4.500 4.500
Toskala, Vesa 34 CGY G UFA 4.000 4.000
Mason, Chris 35 STL G UFA 3.000 3.000
Price, Carey 23 MTL G RFA 2.200 0.850
Ellis, Dan 31 NAS G UFA 1.750 2.000
Emery, Ray 28 PHI G UFA 1.500 1.500
Pavelec, Ondrej 23 ATL G RFA 1.433 0.850
Biron, Martin 33 NYI G UFA 1.400 1.400
Budaj, Peter 28 COL G UFA 1.250 1.250
Harding, Josh 27 MIN G RFA 1.100 1.100
Hedberg, Johan 38 ATL G UFA 1.087 1.175
Schneider, Cory 26 VAN G RFA 1.084 0.984
Lalime, Patrick 36 BUF G UFA 1.000 1.000
Teslak, Michael-Lee 25 PHI G RFA 0.925 0.875
Gustavsson, Jonas 26 TOR G RFA 0.900 0.810
Larsson, Daniel 25 DET G RFA 0.850 0.685
Neuvirth, Michal 23 WAS G RFA 0.850 0.850
Plante, Tyler 24 FLA G RFA 0.850 0.710
Niemi, Antti 27 CHI G RFA 0.827 0.827
Backlund, Johan 29 PHI G UFA 0.800 0.800
Halak, Jaroslav 26 MTL G RFA 0.775 0.800
Valiquette, Stephen 33 NYR G UFA 0.725 0.725
Dubnyk, Devan 25 EDM G RFA 0.700 0.700
MacDonald, Joey 31 ANA G UFA 0.650 0.650
Drouin-Deslauriers, Jeff 27 EDM G RFA 0.625 0.700
Keetley, Matt 25 CGY G RFA 0.602 0.545
Dubielewicz, Wade 32 MIN G UFA 0.600 0.600
Niittymaki, Antero 31 TBL G UFA 0.600 0.600
Sabourin, Dany 30 BOS G UFA 0.600 0.600
Sanford, Curtis 31 MTL G UFA 0.600 0.600
Khudobin, Anton 25 MIN G RFA 0.587 0.600
Levasseur, Jean-Philippe 24 ANA G RFA 0.580 0.525
Zaba, Matt 27 NYR G UFA VI 0.575 0.575
Duchesne, Jeremy 24 PHI G RFA 0.530 0.540
Climie, Matt 28 DAL G UFA 0.525 0.525
Mannino, Peter 27 ATL G RFA 0.525 0.525
Brodeur, Mike 28 OTT G UFA 0.520 0.520
Auld, Alex 30 NYR G UFA 0.500 1.000
Caron, Sebastien 31 PHI G UFA 0.500 0.500
Danis, Yann 30 NJD G UFA 0.500 0.500
Legace, Manny 38 CAR G UFA 0.500 0.500
Peters, Justin 24 CAR G RFA 0.500 0.500
Raycroft, Andrew 31 VAN G UFA 0.500 0.500
Weiman, Tyler 27 COL G UFA VI 0.500 0.500
Leighton, Michael 30 PHI G UFA 0.300 0.600

Personally, I would like to see them get a young goaltender who Reese can mold in the offseason to emerge as a great. My option would be Carey Price. This guy was supposed to be the next Patrick Roy in Montreal, but I think he was thrown in way too quickly and fractured because of the Montreal media and pressure. I think to get him away from the crazies up there and get him with a good coach he can emerge as a solid #1 who does not let weak goals past him. He is young, we can get a lot of years out of him and he should be relatively inexpensive. Sign back Leighton as the backup, after all that is the position he certaily excels at. What do you think?

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06-11-2010, 11:35 AM
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I wouldn't mind either of these guys.

Pavelec, Ondrej 23 ATL G RFA 1.433 0.850
Biron, Martin 33 NYI G UFA 1.400 1.400

I'd take Turco of Nabakov is we could get them for a 2 yr deal at 3 mil per. The problem with Carey Price is what it would take to get him, and then his salary after we did get him.

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I wouldn't mind either of these guys.

Pavelec, Ondrej 23 ATL G RFA 1.433 0.850
Biron, Martin 33 NYI G UFA 1.400 1.400

I'd take Turco of Nabakov is we could get them for a 2 yr deal at 3 mil per. The problem with Carey Price is what it would take to get him, and then his salary after we did get him.
I'd take Turco and Nabby with that deal, too, but there's no way they're coming that cheap, not even Turco. We're being too hopeful here, there are other teams who'd love to have these goalies. Sure, maybe one of the good to great ones out there wants to play for a legit contender and will take a small cut, but not like that when there will be big offers on the table.

A trade for a guy like Price would be nice, I think he'd be good away from the enormous pressure of playing in Montreal, but the price for Price might be too high.

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06-11-2010, 12:02 PM
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I really didn't think we had to trade for price. I thought we just had to offer money if he is a RFA? Is that wrong?

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I really didn't think we had to trade for price. I thought we just had to offer money if he is a RFA? Is that wrong?
Yes he is RFA, but we can't submit an offer sheet because we don't have all of our own picks.

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The concern I have about Price is that he's got somewhat of a party guy rep up there, and that seemed to be an issue here. Personally I think that stuff is overblown, but if they really had off-ice stuff in mind when they moved Lupul, Upshall etc then I'm not sure they'll want to bring in Price.

Also I think we'll all be surprised at the number Turco signs for. I think he'll be pretty affordable, but I'm not a big fan of Turco so I'd look elsewhere. I think I'd rather have Tim Thomas than Turco.

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Gotcha! I forgot about that. Sorry I'm slow. I just question what we'd get out of having an older goaltender as nanny or Turco. What about hedburg from atl?

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Christ I wish Bryzgalov wasn't locked up for another year...I actually want him on this team more than anyone on that list.

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I really didn't think we had to trade for price. I thought we just had to offer money if he is a RFA? Is that wrong?
You don't have the picks for an offer sheet...

PS: As Libertine already pointed out. Sorry for the repetition.


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Christ I wish Bryzgalov wasn't locked up for another year...I actually want him on this team more than anyone on that list.
Hell yeah. Amazing that he was a waiver wire pick up, isn't it?

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I know everyone hates that he even exists right now, but I don't think I'd be too upset with Leighton. Not my first choice, but he was a pretty sturdy goalie all year until the finals.

Ellis or Biron would be alright with me. Turco would be fine, too. Nabokov would be great, but probably too expensive unless we deal away a big contract.

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I'd go for Turco at 3 or 3.5 million. Nabby will cost too much. Theodore and Toskala are past their prime. Mason is usually a back up. Price is a headcase. Ellis doesn't have the real experience and time to be a true starter. Emery probably won't play again. Biron might forever be a back up. I don't trust Harding, Hedberg or Budaj with anything right now. I like the idea of maybe bringing back Nitty in the future and I also think that Backlund should re-sign. Backlund + Bobrovsky in the AHL next year sounds good.

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Was watching Cotsey, TP and John Boruk.. basically they were discussing our goaltending for next year and Cotsey said something like...

He would not go after any of UFAs or RFAs goaltenders. He was saying that maybe ML will improve under our goalie coach. Steve also had that smile, I think he was drunk like always tough.

TP was taking 5 minutes to formulate a simple hockey statament. (Nothing-new there.) But he aslo, did not think that Flyers would go after any UFA goaltender.

I am just sad.

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As much as I don't want to return to the Biron puckhandling and bad goal days, I wouldn't mind him back. He was a super nice guy and I think Reese is the best goalie coach we have ever had. Biron would be cheap enough and a team player to be mentoring Bobo or Ericksson when the time comes.

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Go for Turco for cheap. He isnt a bad goalie and I think could fit in well here.

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Was watching Cotsey, TP and John Boruk.. basically they were discussing our goaltending for next year and Cotsey said something like...

He would not go after any of UFAs or RFAs goaltenders. He was saying that maybe ML will improve under our goalie coach. Steve also had that smile, I think he was drunk like always tough.

TP was taking 5 minutes to formulate a simple hockey statament. (Nothing-new there.) But he aslo, did not think that Flyers would go after any UFA goaltender.

I am just sad.
If they do that, I hope Bobrovsky plays his way on to the big team and ousts five hole

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I wouldn't mind either of these guys.

Pavelec, Ondrej 23 ATL G RFA 1.433 0.850
Biron, Martin 33 NYI G UFA 1.400 1.400

I'd take Turco of Nabakov is we could get them for a 2 yr deal at 3 mil per. The problem with Carey Price is what it would take to get him, and then his salary after we did get him.
Reallllllly? REALLY? Biron = Esche = Leighton...stellarly inconsistent. Everyone would kill me for this but I still believe Nitty could have been the guy and I definitely believe if we still had him around the Flyers would have won the cup. I think Stevens ruined his reputation here by blaming him for the last place season a few years back (considering the dynamic duo of Rathje/hatcher gave us the worst defense in the league; he needed surgery on both hips AND faced the highest average shots per game) then once we didn't suck so bad, he got to play once every like 12 games and if he didn't have a shut out or stop 40 shots we went back to Biron.

Nabakov = BIGGER fail than Leighton. If you can fold under pressure that often and that easily behind a team as versatile and as good as San Jose, you cannot be a playoff goalie.

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Go for Turco for cheap. He isnt a bad goalie and I think could fit in well here.
I find that in the whole list, outside of a very, very select few, he is probably the only goalie that is not a bad goalie and never has been.

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I say we give Carter, Parent and Powe to Phoenix for Bryzgalov.

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I'd actually be all for Emery being back if we knew for a guaranteed fact he was not going to have any lingering effects. His post to post speed is blazing and that is huge in the post season.

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I'd actually be all for Emery being back if we knew for a guaranteed fact he was not going to have any lingering effects. His post to post speed is blazing and that is huge in the post season.
Honestly though, I wouldn't mind it either, but even if the necrosis stopped, his hip might be too messed up to play well again.

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Wouldnt mind Price, Nabby, or Leights

Halak and Niemi will be locked up long term.

I worry about Price's big head, although I think he'd be better here, I read (here i think) that his dad was a Flyers fan growing up.

I worry about Nabby's playoff success.

And I worry about a setback from Leighton after he receives a contract.

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Reallllllly? REALLY? Biron = Esche = Leighton...stellarly inconsistent. Everyone would kill me for this but I still believe Nitty could have been the guy and I definitely believe if we still had him around the Flyers would have won the cup. I think Stevens ruined his reputation here by blaming him for the last place season a few years back (considering the dynamic duo of Rathje/hatcher gave us the worst defense in the league; he needed surgery on both hips AND faced the highest average shots per game) then once we didn't suck so bad, he got to play once every like 12 games and if he didn't have a shut out or stop 40 shots we went back to Biron.

Nabakov = BIGGER fail than Leighton. If you can fold under pressure that often and that easily behind a team as versatile and as good as San Jose, you cannot be a playoff goalie.
Nitty was the most inconsistant of that whole bunch. I liked him a lot but he was very hot and cold.

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Wouldnt mind Price, Nabby, or Leights

Halak and Niemi will be locked up long term.

I worry about Price's big head, although I think he'd be better here, I read (here i think) that his dad was a Flyers fan growing up.

I worry about Nabby's playoff success.

And I worry about a setback from Leighton after he receives a contract.
I actually thought Price was a good team player for Montreal this post season. I have the same fears with Nabby. Also his price tag may be higher than it should be.

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Nitty was the most inconsistant of that whole bunch. I liked him a lot but he was very hot and cold.
Yeah but if we could go to a Stanley Cup final with Leighton (thanks to Laviolette's system) we could WIN one with Nitty. He was super inconsistent as a cold backup to Biron and hard to blame for having a 3 GAA in our last place season considering he faced many more shots than other goalies.

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