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06-13-2010, 04:01 PM
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You guys are really under-valuing Hemsky. He's worth more than an 8th imo so if we can get him with it that that's a steal for Dudley. He's a playmaker, something we haven't had since Savard.

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Obviously people are underrating him, but I don't think he's worth the 8th overall pick. If it was a mid rounder then yeah maybe. And the injury history scares me a lot.

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06-13-2010, 04:37 PM
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to be fair, someone has to score for Edmonton. They got a weak team. I wouldn't be surprised if Slater had 20+ goals with Edmonton.

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to be fair, someone has to score for Edmonton. They got a weak team. I wouldn't be surprised if Slater had 20+ goals with Edmonton.
I was going to reply to each and every one of your posts with a long, hearty reply, but after reading this one I realized it would be utterly pointless. You're either the most uneducated poster on these boards or you've never had the opportunity to watch the Oilers or Hemsky in your life, it's sad that you seem to think you have the ability to keep up in an argument about Hemmer.

A talent like Hemsky isn't going to be traded for the 8th overall, just stop man. Tambellini would be burned at the stake for trading him for that, even with the Oilers at the beginning of a rebuild. You don't trade a proven first-liner for an 18-year-old kid. The fact that you wouldn't trade the 24th overall for Hemsky is embarrassing to be honest. Bring it to the trade rumour boards if you really think that Hemsky isn't worth a late first-rounder.

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We have our own opinion. I think Hemsky is average.

And why would I randomly watch an Oilers game? I'm not an Oilers fan nor do I care for the team.

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We have our own opinion. I think Hemsky is average.

And why would I randomly watch an Oilers game? I'm not an Oilers fan nor do I care for the team.
So you're agreeing with me then that you have no idea what you're talking about with Hemsky?

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So wait, you think that an injury-prone, playmaking winger that will at best be a PPG guy, is worth way more then the 8th pick?

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So wait, you think that an injury-prone, playmaking winger that will at best be a PPG guy, is worth way more then the 8th pick?
A top line right winger on a sick salary > the 8th overall pick. Especially from the Oilers perspective considering Hemsky's value to the team, you wouldn't get Hemsky for an unproven 18 year old. The very best case scenario, the pick would probably end up being just as good as Hemsky. Now you just have to wait 5 years for the kid to develop, and that's only if the player does end up becoming a top liner like Hemsky.

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A top line right winger on a sick salary > the 8th overall pick. Especially from the Oilers perspective considering Hemsky's value to the team, you wouldn't get Hemsky for an unproven 18 year old. The very best case scenario, the pick would probably end up being just as good as Hemsky. Now you just have to wait 5 years for the kid to develop, and that's only if the player does end up becoming a top liner like Hemsky.
O..kay...

The Thrashers have had very little injury problems the last few years, so why would we want to add someone that might not be playing half the time? Why would we want to sacrifice our future for someone like that?

At best the kid becomes better then Hemsky. Even though that is very unlikely we just don't know. We are not going to sacrifice our future though for a guy like Hemsky.

Why would you guys want to trade him anyways? Do ya'll want to rebuild for another 5 years?

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uh y'all.... has the fact that Jermey "Scorin" Morin will be on this team within 2 years. Are you also aware that his shot currently would put him in the upper echelon of NHL players, can y'all imagine Hemsky feeding him on the PP...ummm excuse me while i try to find a cure for my blue balls. A PP of Kane, Morin, Hemsky, Bogosian and Antropov would be the most **** diesel special teams crew to ever hit the ice at the bulb.

Morin could probably score at least 30 his rookie year with a line mate like Hemsky.

Just somethin for y'all to chew on.

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Nope... Hesmky will be watching from the press box.

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O..kay...

The Thrashers have had very little injury problems the last few years, so why would we want to add someone that might not be playing half the time? Why would we want to sacrifice our future for someone like that?
First of all, how do the Thrashers injury problems correlate to Hemsky's at all?

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At best the kid becomes better then Hemsky. Even though that is very unlikely we just don't know. We are not going to sacrifice our future though for a guy like Hemsky.
The odds of him being better than Hemsky are pretty slim, without even considering the time it would take for the prospect to develop if he were to reach Hemsky's talent level. So how in the hell would you be sacrificing your future by trading for him? How does that make any sense at all?

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Why would you guys want to trade him anyways?
I definitely don't, I'm just arguing his value as to higher than that of the eighth overall pick, and for some hilarious reason a late first round pick.

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Nope... Hesmky will be watching from the press box.
Oh man, I wish I could add to an argument like you can. I don't know where these boards would be without you.

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There is no denying Hemsky is an extremely talented player and I would love to have him here. Based on talent alone I'd even do the 8th + 2nd/Vish straight up for him. However, we've seen too many star players leave town since this franchise began. The fact he only has 2 years left on his deal makes me say no. I think we need to stick to building from within.

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06-13-2010, 09:10 PM
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Yes, Hemsky was injured this year but injuries do happen to players that do not shy away from contact. The only reason why I would put Hemsky in a proposal is because we are rebuilding and I think that we should go with picks and at 8th there is a player that will help this team out in 3 to 4 years. Atl needs to win now to get its fans to watch games. Edm came in last this year and still sold out every game. The fans here are willing to do a proper rebuild. Atl has to win now and Hemsky can help with that.

You are not going to get Hemsky and Penner for both your picks. They are both worth a lot more than that.

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We seem yo have a typical overvalue/undervalue thing going on here. Hemsky's a great player, and would help this team no doubt. However, like ASF, I'm concerned about his injury-proneness... Edmonton doesn't seem to be in cap trouble, being 5 mil under the cap with a ton of RFAs to resign. With all the younguns EDM has, I don't understand why they'd want to get rid of Hemsky, unless it's because of his injury issues.

I'd give EDM the 24th overall, 3rd or 4th round pick, Vishnevsky, and Esposito.

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Can't believe how much some people are undervaluing Hemsky in this thread. The guy's a legit top line winger. If we got hold of him he would instantly become our best forward. The only question mark about him is his injury history.

Those who wouldn't trade our 8th pick for Hemsky are seriously overvaluing draft picks. Yes there is a chance that the 8th pick becomes a stud and turns into an elite player, but it's a very small chance. If the 8th pick turns out to be as good as Hemsky, the scouts and GM who drafted that player will be doing cartwheels of joy.

As many have said, we already have a great young core and some good prospects so we can afford to move picks this year for a legit forward that can step in now. I'm not saying we should throw the 8th pick away, but if it helps get a great player we should do it. Kane, Little, Bergfors, Morin, Klingberg, Machacek should all be around for a while, add in guys like Esposito, O'Dell, Albert and Leveille who should have a chance to make the team and you can see we are not lacking in young talent. The opportunity to add a proven top line player to that group is something well worth the 8th pick and more.

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Can't believe how much some people are undervaluing Hemsky in this thread. The guy's a legit top line winger. If we got hold of him he would instantly become our best forward. The only question mark about him is his injury history.

Those who wouldn't trade our 8th pick for Hemsky are seriously overvaluing draft picks. Yes there is a chance that the 8th pick becomes a stud and turns into an elite player, but it's a very small chance. If the 8th pick turns out to be as good as Hemsky, the scouts and GM who drafted that player will be doing cartwheels of joy.

As many have said, we already have a great young core and some good prospects so we can afford to move picks this year for a legit forward that can step in now. I'm not saying we should throw the 8th pick away, but if it helps get a great player we should do it. Kane, Little, Bergfors, Morin, Klingberg, Machacek should all be around for a while, add in guys like Esposito, O'Dell, Albert and Leveille who should have a chance to make the team and you can see we are not lacking in young talent. The opportunity to add a proven top line player to that group is something well worth the 8th pick and more.
agreed 100%

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Ryan Johansen/ Niederreiter > Hemsky

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You guys dont get to watch the Oilers too often do you? Both Penner and Hemsky are getting severely underrated in this thread.
I would imagine that Oilers fans don't watch the Thrashers much either.

Hemsky is a skilled player, but the Thrashers need to use their #8 and #24 picks to expand their base of young talent. We want a block of guys under 25 who can mature and contend together. Trading picks for Hemsky just ages the roster unnecessarily.

In fact, I think this could be the last draft where Atlanta picks in the top 10 because guys like Morin and Klingberg are about to graduate to the NHL. I want to see the franchise keep both and then use some of that cap space to perhaps take on a salary dump player to bridge the gap over the next year or two.


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Ryan Johansen/ Niederreiter > Hemsky
Wow.

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Wow.
Agreed.

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Obviously people are underrating him, but I don't think he's worth the 8th overall pick. If it was a mid rounder then yeah maybe. And the injury history scares me a lot.
Wow you guys really overrate draft picks.

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Wow you guys really overrate draft picks.
Not really when you consider that the next few years of drafts are supposed to be slim pickins....

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Not really when you consider that the next few years of drafts are supposed to be slim pickins....
Wouldn't that mean you would want to trade picks in shallow drafts for proven players?

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Wouldn't that mean you would want to trade picks in shallow drafts for proven players?
You would....Meaning after this draft...The next few drafts are kinda shallow.

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