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06-25-2011, 10:21 PM
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Hes good enough to go in the 7th round.....Wasn't Mark Striet drafted at like 24 yrs old or something.
If he was, I'm sure he would of gone. But he didn't.

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06-25-2011, 10:21 PM
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great 1st shot stopper but bad rebound control

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06-25-2011, 10:42 PM
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I totally drafted him in NHL11 and he was the best goalie 3 years later on some other team

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06-25-2011, 11:19 PM
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I think he needs to go to Sweden, Finland or Germany and be a star goalie there for 3 years in order for someone to offer him a contract. You don't want to give a three year contract to someone who ends up not being worth it. Takes a potential contract from another goalie.

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06-26-2011, 02:41 AM
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You guys are funny.

Is Conz Halak, Hasek or Thomas? No he isn't. He may eventually be an NHL calibre prospect, but I think this draft once again shows that he isn't.

I don't see why it's that shocking to anybody.
Actually, Conz has greater potential than those 3 u mentions....

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06-26-2011, 03:09 AM
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I think this kid will turn out great if a team takes a chance and gives him a tryout.

He shows good potential, and could be a solid starter, but nothing really special. However a solid #1

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06-26-2011, 03:39 AM
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Aebischer and Gerber wasn't bad. Also wasn't Huet swiss developed?.
I heard that Jonas Hiller guy is pretty good as well

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06-26-2011, 03:41 AM
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Actually, Conz has greater potential than those 3 u mentions....

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06-26-2011, 03:49 AM
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Actually, Conz has greater potential than those 3 u mentions....
Wait, what?

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06-26-2011, 07:06 AM
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I think he needs to go to Sweden, Finland or Germany and be a star goalie there for 3 years in order for someone to offer him a contract. You don't want to give a three year contract to someone who ends up not being worth it. Takes a potential contract from another goalie.
Sweden would be a good option for Conz, but Finnish league is at the same level as the Swiss NLA and the German DEL is some levels below those three. So no, he should not go to these two. But Sweden would be a good option.
He is on loan at HC Lugano now, and will have more pressure than in his former team.

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06-26-2011, 07:28 AM
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I totally drafted him in NHL11 and he was the best goalie 3 years later on some other team
He was pick 1st overall in by the Oilers when i played.

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Actually, Conz has greater potential than those 3 u mentions....
You are Conz, aren't you?

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06-26-2011, 09:41 AM
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I think he needs to go to Sweden, Finland or Germany and be a star goalie there for 3 years in order for someone to offer him a contract. You don't want to give a three year contract to someone who ends up not being worth it. Takes a potential contract from another goalie.
i said the exact thing except russia instead or germany

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06-29-2011, 12:57 PM
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Benjamin Conz

Question: Is this guy eligible to sign as a free agent this summer after being pass in the draft twice?

EDIT: Also is this guy still eligible for next year's draft?

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06-29-2011, 01:47 PM
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Question: Is this guy eligible to sign as a free agent this summer after being pass in the draft twice?

EDIT: Also is this guy still eligible for next year's draft?
He's still draft eligible for 2012 since Conz was born in 1991. He is not eligible to be signed as a free agent, as there is a separate clause for North American and European players.

On a side note, it is possible for some players to be selected in their third year of draft eligibility. North American players born between 1/1 and 9/15 can go through three drafts. Somebody like Matt Kennedy was first eligible in 2007 but was taken in 2009 by Carolina. North American trained players born between 9/16 and 12/31 will be eligible for two drafts and can be free agents afterwards.

There's actually a separate clause regarding European trained players, the Entry Draft, and free agency. To keep things simple, 1991 birthdate European players will have their final year of draft eligibility in 2012. One example of a player like that taken last weekend was Vancouver 7th rounder Henrik Tommernes who was an August 1990 birthdate.

So I think there's a bit of confusion there with some folks, as a North American player with the same birthdate as Conz would be a free agent but Conz still has another year of eligibility.


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06-29-2011, 02:40 PM
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It's absurd that nobody has taken a shot on this kid yet. I don't follow the NLA, but apparently he is far and away the best goalie in that league. I know everyone will bring up his size, but he's really not worthy of a 7th round selection?

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06-29-2011, 02:43 PM
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Is he able to get invited to a NHL team's camp?

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06-29-2011, 02:45 PM
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Is he able to get invited to a NHL team's camp?
He can attend a camp, but a team couldn't sign him like they could with a North American with draft eligibility remaining. For example, the Kings had Martin Jones in a camp a few years back and were allowed to offer him a contract on the spot. But a couple years later, they had undrafted Czech defender Radko Gudas in camp and would have liked to offer him a contract but were prohibited by the CBA. Gudas then went in the 3rd round in 2010.

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06-29-2011, 02:51 PM
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He can attend a camp, but a team couldn't sign him like they could with a North American with draft eligibility remaining. For example, the Kings had Martin Jones in a camp a few years back and were allowed to offer him a contract on the spot. But a couple years later, they had undrafted Czech defender Radko Gudas in camp and would have liked to offer him a contract but were prohibited by the CBA. Gudas then went in the 3rd round in 2010.
Alright, thanks. Sucks though, been a fan of Conz and to be passed over 3 drafts now because of his size isn't right. The kid got skills. Then again it will motivate him for the upcoming season to show what he's got as a starter for the 2nd year and he's on a better team. The only thing he can do is to make NHL teams regret not choosing him.

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06-29-2011, 06:47 PM
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His NLA contract runs though 2012-13, so any team that drafted him in 2010 would've lost their rights. Not sure why he wasn't picked up this year, though.

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06-29-2011, 08:24 PM
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I don't follow the NLA, but apparently he is far and away the best goalie in that league.
No, not really. There are still some better goalies over there.
But yes, he's well developed for a 20yo kid already going into his 3rd starter season!

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06-29-2011, 08:56 PM
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He's still draft eligible for 2012 since Conz was born in 1991. He is not eligible to be signed as a free agent, as there is a separate clause for North American and European players.

On a side note, it is possible for some players to be selected in their third year of draft eligibility. North American players born between 1/1 and 9/15 can go through three drafts. Somebody like Matt Kennedy was first eligible in 2007 but was taken in 2009 by Carolina. North American trained players born between 9/16 and 12/31 will be eligible for two drafts and can be free agents afterwards.

There's actually a separate clause regarding European trained players, the Entry Draft, and free agency. To keep things simple, 1991 birthdate European players will have their final year of draft eligibility in 2012. One example of a player like that taken last weekend was Vancouver 7th rounder Henrik Tommernes who was an August 1990 birthdate.

So I think there's a bit of confusion there with some folks, as a North American player with the same birthdate as Conz would be a free agent but Conz still has another year of eligibility.
Thanks I'm suprise no one drafted this kid yet.

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06-29-2011, 11:13 PM
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Actually, Conz has greater potential than those 3 u mentions....
Umm...

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06-29-2011, 11:49 PM
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Someone in this thread mentioned that his rebound control isn't that good, and I have to agree with that. I think playing in front of a very defensive and well-coached Swiss team at the WJC helps mask this defect.

Bottom line, he's a smallish guy with good reflexes who's done well against senior competition and in international play, but doesn't have much else going for him as a prospect. He just doesn't project well at all.

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So... It's been a while and I wanna get this kids name back out there.

http://www.gotteron.ch/equipe/fiche-...nplayersdetail[player]=318&tx_teamplayer_gotteronplayersdetail[seasonUid]=28&tx_teamplayer_gotteronplayersdetail[controller]=Player&cHash=49c1049c4f37119c51c7575104b5db8b

He seems to be doing very well back in Switzerland again, I notice he's finally listed at his proper height and weight as well (6'1" 205lbs).

Has he improved his rebound control and does he have a future in North America?

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