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How much will Patrick Marleau get?

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06-15-2010, 02:00 PM
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He will get too much.
Surprised it took this long for someone to say that.

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06-15-2010, 02:04 PM
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Toronto has the cap space to sign someone right? It probably won't be Kovalchuk, so I guess it will be Marleau.

They skipped on a true rebuild by trading their 1st's for Kessel, so no point avoiding Free Agency with no picks to barter with.

Bobby Ryan to Toronto is a pipedream, but Marleau can be had.

Sharks then re-sign Nabakov IMHO.
Ron Wilson says hi.

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06-15-2010, 02:06 PM
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6.75 a year for 6 years from Toronto or Colorado.

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06-15-2010, 02:07 PM
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Lol, yea not gonna happen. Im guessing 30 mil for 5 years. 6.0 cap hit.

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On any other team, his goal numbers go way down to the high 20s and mid-high 30s for assists


I almost feel like I should apologise for your ignorance. Patrick Marleau is not a 60 point player but hey, whatever helps you sleep at night...

I'm sure you'll probably educate me then about what his 2007/8 season proves to you, just to prove a point. To save time responding though I'll politely point out that, disregarding that season, Marleau has 318 points in 317 games over the other 4 of his past 5 seasons since the lock out.

I may not be an elite mathematician but to me that looks slightly better than a 60 point guy... It must all be because of Thornton though, you're right.



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06-15-2010, 02:08 PM
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My guess is around $6.5 mil for 3 years

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06-15-2010, 02:26 PM
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Last contract he got $6.3M for 2 years.

I'm assuming he'll get around $6.5M.

Any ideas?

Term?
If he just goes where the money is, he can probably get around 6.5 mil for 4-5 years. If he only signs with a contender, he may have to sign a deal like Hossa, long term with a front loaded deal with a 5-5.5 cap hit.

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06-15-2010, 02:29 PM
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Toronto has the cap space to sign someone right? It probably won't be Kovalchuk, so I guess it will be Marleau.

They skipped on a true rebuild by trading their 1st's for Kessel, so no point avoiding Free Agency with no picks to barter with.

Bobby Ryan to Toronto is a pipedream, but Marleau can be had.

Sharks then re-sign Nabakov IMHO.
If they sign Marleau they'll put themselves in cap hell with not much of a chance at upgrading at center or finding scoring depth behind Marleau and Kessel. They have a ton of money on defense even if they move Kaberle and JSG is a 6 mil cap hit.

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06-15-2010, 04:48 PM
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Depends who he ends up with.

With SJ, $5.5-$6.5M per yr.

With LA, $6.5-$7M per yr.

Only two teams I can see him going to.

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06-15-2010, 04:51 PM
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Last contract he got $6.3M for 2 years.

I'm assuming he'll get around $6.5M. Any ideas?

Term?
i think your bang on with 6.5. it will be a 5 year deal

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06-15-2010, 04:56 PM
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If they sign Marleau they'll put themselves in cap hell with not much of a chance at upgrading at center or finding scoring depth behind Marleau and Kessel. They have a ton of money on defense even if they move Kaberle and JSG is a 6 mil cap hit.
plus 3.5 for finger off the cap playing for the marlies, plus 6 million off next year for giguere, plus grabovski moved for a mid draft pick this off season theres another 2.9. thats 12.4 extra coming off the cap. where is the cap hell you talk about.

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06-15-2010, 05:01 PM
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Leafs can afford Marleau with minor fixes and I don't know that Wilson would be as much of a deterrent as people think, but I see him signing with LA for about 6.5 million cap hit.

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Toronto has the cap space to sign someone right? It probably won't be Kovalchuk, so I guess it will be Marleau.

They skipped on a true rebuild by trading their 1st's for Kessel, so no point avoiding Free Agency with no picks to barter with.

Bobby Ryan to Toronto is a pipedream, but Marleau can be had.

Sharks then re-sign Nabakov IMHO.
Toronto does not have as much cap space as you'd think. It would be very difficult to fill out the rest of the roster spots if they take on a forward at 6.5 million. They took on Giguere and Phaneuf at the end of last season. Even if they move a defenceman, it's still tough to fit Marleau in there.

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Toronto does not have as much cap space as you'd think. It would be very difficult to fill out the rest of the roster spots if they take on a forward at 6.5 million. They took on Giguere and Phaneuf at the end of last season. Even if they move a defenceman, it's still tough to fit Marleau in there.


Marleau is more of a possibility than you think as Kaberle is likely to be moved & Finger to the minors is an option if need be. Add to that, there has been talk of the salary cap being bumped up a little so that gives Burke & Co a little more room to play with. That being said I would not take Marleau for 7.5 if I was the Burke as that extra million or so could go into a bottom 6 forward (Madden) whom I've heard from a source, really wants to retire in toronto.

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Marleau is more of a possibility than you think as Kaberle is likely to be moved & Finger to the minors is an option if need be. Add to that, there has been talk of the salary cap being bumped up a little so that gives Burke & Co a little more room to play with. That being said I would not take Marleau for 7.5 if I was the Burke as that extra million or so could go into a bottom 6 forward (Madden) whom I've heard from a source, really wants to retire in toronto.
Except that Patrick Marleau would likely rather play for the Hershey Bears than Ron Wilson again.

So it's actually less of a possibility.

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06-15-2010, 05:43 PM
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Marleau has specifically said he would be willing to play with Wilson again and they called eachother and made up after Wilson left the team. He and Wilson had their problems but you guys are seriously overstating it.

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Marleau has specifically said he would be willing to play with Wilson again and they called eachother and made up after Wilson left the team. He and Wilson had their problems but you guys are seriously overstating it.
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Given the choice, I think he would choose many other places.

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Marleau is more of a possibility than you think as Kaberle is likely to be moved & Finger to the minors is an option if need be. Add to that, there has been talk of the salary cap being bumped up a little so that gives Burke & Co a little more room to play with. That being said I would not take Marleau for 7.5 if I was the Burke as that extra million or so could go into a bottom 6 forward (Madden) whom I've heard from a source, really wants to retire in toronto.
If it's a matter of clearing out 7 million in space, then any team in the league is a likely suitor.

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Marleau has specifically said he would be willing to play with Wilson again and they called eachother and made up after Wilson left the team. He and Wilson had their problems but you guys are seriously overstating it.
Marleau is a class act. They had a huge fallout. I am sure he would prefer to play just about anywhere else.

Besides that fact, Marleau does not deal with the media well, and no way does he have the kind of personality that would work in Toronto. Seriously, I think his game would suffer substantially, you guys really shouldn't even want him.

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Marleau has specifically said he would be willing to play with Wilson again and they called eachother and made up after Wilson left the team. He and Wilson had their problems but you guys are seriously overstating it.
Marleau isn't the kind of person to say anything bad about anyone to the media. He is the nice guy that says he is fine no matter what the situation is. So even though he has said he is fine with playing for RW again I doubt he is telling the truth. Why whould he want to play for a coach that threw him under the bus to the media multiple times and constantly changed his line to screw him over?

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[citation needed]

Given the choice, I think he would choose many other places.

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/sharks/...san-jose-past/

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Marleau isn't the kind of person to say anything bad about anyone to the media. He is the nice guy that says he is fine no matter what the situation is. So even though he has said he is fine with playing for RW again I doubt he is telling the truth. Why whould he want to play for a coach that threw him under the bus to the media multiple times and constantly changed his line to screw him over?
Maybe not to say anything bad to anyone in the media. He wasn't answering a question though. He personally called Ron Wilson and specifically said to him, in a private conversation, that he'd be willing to play for him again.

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http://blogs.mercurynews.com/sharks/...san-jose-past/

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Whatever, we as Sharks fan's have all read that, and watched every interview he's ever done since. I think we have a better read on the guy that a leafs fan with high hopes would.

When Marleau isn't in a leafs sweater next season, just don't go jump off a bridge or anything.

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Marleau has specifically said he would be willing to play with Wilson again and they called eachother and made up after Wilson left the team. He and Wilson had their problems but you guys are seriously overstating it.
Of course he's willing to play for Ron Wilson but he's not going to choose to play for him. Marleau's not going to hold grudges or burn bridges. He's not wired that way. However, he's not going to choose to go to Toronto knowing full well that Ron Wilson has no problems doing the exact same thing that caused friction between the two in the first place. That also ignores the family issue which is probably more important than anything else in this conversation.

He's not leaving San Jose for Toronto. There are three places that Marleau would likely consider if not San Jose. Los Angeles, Anaheim, and Calgary. That's it. Luckily for all involved, it's not likely to come to such a decision.

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