Having him around JT and some of the kids another season will only help, but I dont wanna waste any roster spaces on mentors that cant contribute atleast a half season. Hopefully Doug can work thru his recovery this summer.
Anyone else think this might be a precursor to keeping him with the organization upon retirement?
I agree. I think he is great with the young guys. I just hope his shoulder surgery fixed what was wrong. Even at 40, he can help this team, especially on the PP.
I really don't understand this move. Sure, Weight may be a great leader and teammate. But he's 40, coming off of a season ending injury, and hasn't been productive enough to warrant top 6 minutes. He will also be quite useless as a bottom 6 forward.
On ice, I can't see this being a good move.
I'm assuming this move is to mentor the youngsters and help them develop. If that's the case, I just don't see him fitting in as a productive member of the team. I'm not thrilled about this move because this is the definition of wasting a roster spot.
I hate this move. He was done two years ago and last year was injury plagued. If the Islanders want him around they should make him a roving instructor or an assistant or something.
He is gonna play 4th line wing and there is surely somebody out there who is more effective.
The Islanders better be convinced the poor year was due to injury.
I hate this move. He was done two years ago and last year was injury plagued. If the Islanders want him around they should make him a roving instructor or an assistant or something.
He is gonna play 4th line wing and there is surely somebody out there who is more effective.
The Islanders better be convinced the poor year was due to injury.
I have to say I agree. Weight's an experienced leader and by all accounts a good guy, but his career as a top 6 forward is finished.
I really don't understand this move. Sure, Weight may be a great leader and teammate. But he's 40, coming off of a season ending injury, and hasn't been productive enough to warrant top 6 minutes. He will also be quite useless as a bottom 6 forward.
On ice, I can't see this being a good move.
I'm assuming this move is to mentor the youngsters and help them develop. If that's the case, I just don't see him fitting in as a productive member of the team. I'm not thrilled about this move because this is the definition of wasting a roster spot.
while I like Weight, as many of us do, I see your point.
I probably would have preferred a prototypical bottom six forward that the Isles desperately need but I suspect the expectation for Weight next year will be 40 games, limited ice time, focus on the PP and a lot of value with the younger players, in practice and off the ice.
I hope this DOESN'T mean we won't address key weaknesses like some size and strength and checking down the middle (like: Malhotra, Primeau, R.Niedermayer) and some size and tenacity on the wings (Colby Armstrong, Raffi Torres, Eric Nystrom) but I suspect it will.
You'd have to think the top six will NOT include Weight when you already have:
Bailey - Tavares - Okposo
Mouson(RFA) - Nielsen - Hunter
Bergenheim(RFA) - Schremp(RFA) - Comeau
Gillies - Weight -
Assuming Moulson returns - are you willing to sacrifice Schremp and Bergenheim for, say, Ray Whitney and Colby Armstrong?
Speaking of which... I really hope thats the next piece of news we hear. Its driving me nuts they havent done anything with Matty yet. July 1st is just around the corner.
while I like Weight, as many of us do, I see your point.
I probably would have preferred a prototypical bottom six forward that the Isles desperately need but I suspect the expectation for Weight next year will be 40 games, limited ice time, focus on the PP and a lot of value with the younger players, in practice and off the ice.
I hope this DOESN'T mean we won't address key weaknesses like some size and strength and checking down the middle (like: Malhotra, Primeau, R.Niedermayer) and some size and tenacity on the wings (Colby Armstrong, Raffi Torres, Eric Nystrom) but I suspect it will.
You'd have to think the top six will NOT include Weight when you already have:
Bailey - Tavares - Okposo
Mouson(RFA) - Nielsen - Hunter
Bergenheim(RFA) - Schremp(RFA) - Comeau
Gillies - Weight -
I really don't understand this move. Sure, Weight may be a great leader and teammate. But he's 40, coming off of a season ending injury, and hasn't been productive enough to warrant top 6 minutes. He will also be quite useless as a bottom 6 forward.
On ice, I can't see this being a good move.
I'm assuming this move is to mentor the youngsters and help them develop. If that's the case, I just don't see him fitting in as a productive member of the team. I'm not thrilled about this move because this is the definition of wasting a roster spot.
This whole post. JPIsles is on a roll. I feel like the Isles realize he's basically done, but still want his personality as close to the players as possible as a mentor/leader. Maybe we'll see him as assistant coach in 2011?
That has the makings of a 4th line that can't play more than 6 or 7 minutes, a recipe for disaster for a team that struggles with depth as is.
Are you kidding me? I'd trade Schremp and Bergie for Whitney and Armstrong every day of the week.
Agreed. I have to imagine that Snow knows this as well. I truly expect Weight to reitre as some point this season and have to believe that maybe Snow is just buying time until a minor league forward is ready.
I get that he provides leadership and whatnot but seriously this is not a good move team wise. He's been injury plagued since he got here and last season played 36 games with only 1 goal..... 1 goal!!!! THat right there should show that he's done. If he can't play on the top 6 and be effective he's not worth having around leadership or not.
I'll take a cue from some other people around here..... RAISE THE BAR!
This allows the Islanders to have a player with a significant cap hit due to the bonuses (which in all likelihood he won't hit), without actually spending the cash. Actual salaries stay super low and the Isles hit the cap ceiling with ease.
If this is any indication of things to come next season (and I'm not saying that it is), the people with the thoughts of spending $10m+ on free agents might need to come back to earth.
Yeah, this is the problem I see with this. It doesn't let Streit lead, and that is not right. On the other hand, if Weight gives up the 'C', I'm okay with it. I hate the idea of a 7-minute a night captain. Hate hate hate hate hate.
That has the makings of a 4th line that can't play more than 6 or 7 minutes, a recipe for disaster for a team that struggles with depth as is.
Are you kidding me? I'd trade Schremp and Bergie for Whitney and Armstrong every day of the week.
well, that's my point...not to isolate Bergy (whom I like - but feel has stagnated in his development and isn't a good top six NOR bottom six player) and Schremp (who had a very good year, based on the waiver-expectations, before he got hurt) BUT, there are only so many forward spots available.
I'd like as many "better players" as possible but ideally, one IMPACT player. In this year's UFA market, there are only two impact forwards - Marleau and Kovalchuk. While I don't expect those, I would definitely want a second tier player like a Whitney/Kariya/Frolov(unsure about him) to play a top six role AND a player like, say, Adam Mair/Colby Armstrong/Malthotra to play a bottom six role.
Hopefully the re-signing of Weight doesn't impact the decision to address these needs! hopefully!
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Agreed. I have to imagine that Snow knows this as well. I truly expect Weight to reitre as some point this season and have to believe that maybe Snow is just buying time until a minor league forward is ready.
That may be the key to this signing. It's unlikely a player like Martin or Joensuu will make the team out of camp but given that Weight will likely miss the beginning of the year and likely (like, knock on all the wood there is, Martinek) expect to miss some games due to injury, it does make sense to "buy time" until others are ready.
That said, I hope to have at least ONE of Armstrong/Malhotra/Mair to play a bottom six role.
A 4th line that rotates among:
Gillies - Weight - Mair - Martin/Joensuu (maybe Ullstrom) isn't so bad.
Ideally, I'd sign BOTH Malhotra and Mair to play on the 4th line with one of Weight/Martin/Gillies.
Yeah, this is the problem I see with this. It doesn't let Streit lead, and that is not right. On the other hand, if Weight gives up the 'C', I'm okay with it. I hate the idea of a 7-minute a night captain. Hate hate hate hate hate.
Cheers,
Dan-o
I think the captain thing is a bit overdone. The letter doesn't necessarily mean "lead" or "don't lead".
For all we know, Weight may not be captain next year...maybe it will be given to Streit, or Okposo, or Kovalchuk - or someone else.
I think there's a distinction between who wears the "C" and who your "leaders are"
- or someone else.
