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06-17-2010, 02:16 PM
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Granted I'm probably not giving Eller full credit, but come on Halak took the Habs and made them a team this year.

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06-17-2010, 02:16 PM
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Eller and Shultz are you kiding me. I wonder what it would've cost us to get him. Also tencer is saying he heard halak has wanted out. Add this to Lebrun and things are making since to why Price over Halak happened.
Lars Eller was a 13th overall pick. Had a very good rookie year in the AHL with 57 points. Schultz was a 2nd round pick and big tough forward who has shown he can play on the top 6.

Would you be happy let's say if we traded Eberle and Petry for Halak?

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06-17-2010, 02:17 PM
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I'll say it again, this is why you don't draft goalies in the first round. One of the better goalies this year goes for peanuts.

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06-17-2010, 02:17 PM
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Eller has size. Sadly, other than MPS the Oilers best trade option, Cogliano, is exactly what the Habs don't need. Also, we made our bed with Khabibulin, live with it.

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06-17-2010, 02:18 PM
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Cue the ridicule pointed at the Habs, but Eller is a really good prospect.

I have a strong feeling Halak's contract demand facilitated this.

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06-17-2010, 02:18 PM
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if thats all they got the habs fans are gonna lose their marbles. lol. I guess those Carter for Halak or Price was aiming a little high.

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06-17-2010, 02:18 PM
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Granted I'm probably not giving Eller full credit, but come on Halak took the Habs and made them a team this year.
Not to mention he's only 25 years old.

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06-17-2010, 02:19 PM
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Lars Eller was a 13th overall pick. Had a very good rookie year in the AHL with 57 points. Schultz was a 2nd round pick and big tough forward who has shown he can play on the top 6.

Would you be happy let's say if we traded Eberle and Petry for Halak?
Schultz does not even come close to equalling Petry. I'd be surprised if he's anything more than a career AHL'er.

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06-17-2010, 02:20 PM
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That's all it took to acquire Halak. Wow! I thought they'd get a lot better return than that.
Yeah if that is the final return. Then it certainly goes to show the trend continues the last few seasons of goaltender trade value being low.

I would definitely be disappointed if I was a Montreal fan. Again if that is the in fact the final return. There might (must?) be more to it. Oiler fan proposals that often got laughed at were as good or better than this.

Hopefully for Habs fans Eller is as good as some are saying.

I know I would dearly love to have Halak on the Oil.


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Oilers should just pick up Phillipe Grubauer with the 61st pick.

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Lars Eller was a 13th overall pick. Had a very good rookie year in the AHL with 57 points. Schultz was a 2nd round pick and big tough forward who has shown he can play on the top 6.

Would you be happy let's say if we traded Eberle and Petry for Halak?
Eberle>Eller and I thought Schultz was a 3rd, but even so he didn't exactly light up the WHL.

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06-17-2010, 02:22 PM
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Comedy return. Halak must have been asking for the moon.

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06-17-2010, 02:23 PM
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Comedy return. Halak must have been asking for the moon.
Bob Mac on his twitter, says Montreal and Halak's agent have not once talked contract this off-season.

Mackenzie is also saying on his twitter the return is Eller and Schultz.

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06-17-2010, 02:24 PM
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I think an Oilers equivalent to Schultz would be Vande Velde.

The Oilers don't really have an equivalent to Eller. In terms of potential, perhaps it would be like Petry and Vande Velde. Not that Montreal would have done it for that.

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I'm shocked at the return. It's the polar opposite of Habs fans thought would be the return. Mason was and will never be a bonafide number one. Just had a fairly good season. I guess since its mostly just Halaks rights. Given he will be a FA in two weeks. RFA that is. Nice score Blues. Sounds like the Habs got the short straw on this one. Exciting news though. Finally some real action. I liked Schultz in the playoffs and Mem cup last year. Reminded me of a younger Dustin Byfuglien. Precisely addresses MTL's needs in that area. Big strong power forward that can finish. Whats the report on Eller. Looks like a fairly big scoring centre from Sweden. Pretty good prospects from what i've read briefly. Blues fans were pretty high on Eller.

Sounds like a decent return of prospects. Considering the Halak contract situation. I think we would've had to give up a MPS like return. No way.

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06-17-2010, 02:26 PM
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Bob Mac on his twitter, says Montreal and Halak's agent have not once talked contract this off-season.
That makes this an even bigger joke.

Habs poster on their board says it best:

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we basically traded our MVP for potential so that he can be replaced in goal for more potential.

Well, at least you have to give credit to the organization for being consistent.

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06-17-2010, 02:26 PM
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Oilers could have beat that offer easily. For whatever reason, they don't want to address goaltending in any long-term fashion. They haven't ever since Salo got shipped out.
How so? Eller is a pretty darn good prospect unless you were hoping that the Oilers would trade Eberle for Halak.

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06-17-2010, 02:26 PM
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But I was asking if we traded Eberle and Petry or MPS and Plante for Halak would Oiler fans be happy.

The whole point of our rebuild is we don't really need to have a strong goaltender next year and we shouldn't trade our assets right now for someone without long history of success.

The Blues could make that deal they have been slowly rebuilding for the last 5-6 years and they NEED to make the playoffs now.

It didn't cost the blues a roster player and Montreal stocks its prospect pool. Eller is probably ready to play in the NHL and Schultz is the type of prospect alot of times like that is a guy who is Big,Tough and can score.

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06-17-2010, 02:27 PM
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Seems like Montreal is high on Eller, this is really strange to me.

I guess Habs brass believes that Halak caught lightning in a bottle and won't sustain it.

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06-17-2010, 02:29 PM
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I dont really like this move from a Blues standpoint. They are a rebuilding team and are losing some older players like Kariya and Tkachuk this year. They finished 9th this year but I dont think they will finish higher than that. Mason had very good numbers with the Blues so to lose a very good prospect in Eller + and gain a bit of an upgrade in something that wasnt a problem area isnt a great trade imo.

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06-17-2010, 02:31 PM
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Eller had some solid numbers in the AHL as a rook.

Though Rob Schremp put up nearly identical numbers in his rookie season as well at I think the same age.

I guess the Habs organization must have a pretty strong read on Eller though and like him.

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06-17-2010, 02:32 PM
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Yup, we could gave JFJ + ...
The Habs got Eller+. In no way is always-injured-never-scores-JFJ near the same value as Eller.

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06-17-2010, 02:35 PM
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Nevertheless it seems like they didn't get that much as they wanted.

Can't hide my schadenfreude. (Sorry but all those things like Price for Eberle + or 1st overall or van Riemsdyk made me nearly cry because of the whole lot of homerism and arrogance).

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06-17-2010, 02:38 PM
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But I was asking if we traded Eberle and Petry or MPS and Plante for Halak would Oiler fans be happy.

The whole point of our rebuild is we don't really need to have a strong goaltender next year and we shouldn't trade our assets right now for someone without long history of success.

The Blues could make that deal they have been slowly rebuilding for the last 5-6 years and they NEED to make the playoffs now.

It didn't cost the blues a roster player and Montreal stocks its prospect pool. Eller is probably ready to play in the NHL and Schultz is the type of prospect alot of times like that is a guy who is Big,Tough and can score.
Eberle/MPS>>>Eller and Shultz

It's not even a fair comparison.

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