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poor Hammer........concussion today.

hate the nucks, but

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poor Hammer........concussion today.

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Yup, guess we'll just have to shelve that video tribute until next year. He's got mush head again.

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Nashville is 6th in the NHL in man-games lost.

First 5 are out of the playoff projections.
and yet all you hear on NHL net is "woe is the 'nucks, they've lot so much in malhotra and edler and now hammer...." and yet we're down 3 centers and the guy that was our leading scorer when he went out.... no bias to the canadian teams though, eh?

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Didn't Hamhuis say, not too long ago, that if he got another concussion he was going to have to "consider his career?"

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Didn't Hamhuis say, not too long ago, that if he got another concussion he was going to have to "consider his career?"
Yes he did, there is a Hamhuis thread in the NHL talk forum and there is a link to his quote in that thread.

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I've known this for a while... But DaCosta has been in talks with Nashville:

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/blogs/ellio...-with-nhl.html

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03-28-2011, 05:21 PM
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I am on my ohone here...is that the kid from Merrimac that Poile loves?

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I am on my ohone here...is that the kid from Merrimac that Poile loves?
that's right token

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i'm not surprised, i'd love to snag him, carter camper, or andy miele...but the problem is that since the money will be similar no matter who he goes to, he basically has his pick of the organization he wants to go to. I know we've been "in on" several college UFAs in the past...we've yet to nail one of them down, likely for that reason.

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i'm not surprised, i'd love to snag him, carter camper, or andy miele...but the problem is that since the money will be similar no matter who he goes to, he basically has his pick of the organization he wants to go to. I know we've been "in on" several college UFAs in the past...we've yet to nail one of them down, likely for that reason.
http://www.eagletribune.com/sports/x...eet-with-agent

Ottawa, Florida, Minnesota called "frontrunners." Nashville among "longshots"

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Wow. Did anyone see that "goal" by Hossa last night? Clear kicking motion and the puck didn't even cross the line in the first place, and they called it a goal. Chicago comes back to win. Look, I never buy into these "The NHL fixes games for the teams they want in the playoffs" theories, but I am speechless as to any other explanation for this one. Still trying to think of something.


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Conklin basically came out and said that the league wants the Blackhawks in, which was a direct impact on why the goal counted.

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Conklin basically came out and said that the league wants the Blackhawks in, which was a direct impact on why the goal counted.
You know it is true.

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That was horrible!!!! First of all it was a kicking motion so should have been no goal and second it didn't even cross the line. It has to be fully off the line and in to be a goal and it wasn't so they got it wrong on both accounts

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The Hossa goal is tricky. It was a BAD call obviously, but I don't think it's a conspiracy...

First, the kicking motion is negated by the fact that the puck hit the post. I watched it frame by frame a couple of times, and as far as I can tell the puck is headed slightly away from the goal line after it hits the post. Immediately Hossa's stick comes into view, and the puck then looks to change course so that it rides the goal line. At the end of the replay it looks like the puck is actually going into the net, but I never saw any white between the red line and the puck.

Second, it was ruled a goal on the ice. Personally I think it should have been overturned, but the officials will always get the benefit of the doubt. If anything it isn't so much a conspiracy to get Chicago into the play offs as it's a conspiracy to keep from making the officials look bad (well... keep them from looking worse anyway). I don't really know why the NHL would like Chicago in over Dallas or Calgary. All three can draw in tv viewers

There was a goal in the Anaheim game that I believe went to Selanne that was MUCH more obvious. He blatantly kicked the puck in with the toe of his skate, and they ruled it a goal both on the ice and in the war room. That one was freakin' terrible

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Does that mean if you hit a puck into the net with a high stick it counts if it deflects off the post first?

The fact that the puck hit the post shouldn't change anything. If Hossa touched the puck with his stick after kicking it that obviously would.

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Rick Nash AND kris Russell are OUT for tomorrows game. The Preds HAVE to beat this team tomorrow.

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gotta rememeber, and I made coments about the refs, it is not the refs call. it is whoever is in toronto drunk off their ass

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The Hossa goal is tricky. It was a BAD call obviously, but I don't think it's a conspiracy...

First, the kicking motion is negated by the fact that the puck hit the post. I watched it frame by frame a couple of times, and as far as I can tell the puck is headed slightly away from the goal line after it hits the post. Immediately Hossa's stick comes into view, and the puck then looks to change course so that it rides the goal line. At the end of the replay it looks like the puck is actually going into the net, but I never saw any white between the red line and the puck.

Second, it was ruled a goal on the ice. Personally I think it should have been overturned, but the officials will always get the benefit of the doubt. If anything it isn't so much a conspiracy to get Chicago into the play offs as it's a conspiracy to keep from making the officials look bad (well... keep them from looking worse anyway). I don't really know why the NHL would like Chicago in over Dallas or Calgary. All three can draw in tv viewers

There was a goal in the Anaheim game that I believe went to Selanne that was MUCH more obvious. He blatantly kicked the puck in with the toe of his skate, and they ruled it a goal both on the ice and in the war room. That one was freakin' terrible
I don't see the trajectory change that you do, but that's a judgment call and I could understand two reasonable people seeing it a different way (though there is a post on the main board that has a great .gif image that shows it very likely did not make contact).

I'm not a fan of the "indisputable evidence" rule in both the NHL and NFL to overturn a call on the field. Basically, it weighs the judgment of a ref, often from a bad angle, watching a very fast developing play over the judgment of an off-ice official who has multiple angles, almost always better in the aggregate than the individual on-ice official who made the call, and is able to view all of these angles in slow motion.

The off-ice official is substantially more likely to make the correct call given the tools at their disposal. If the mission is to get the call right, the replay official needs to be able to exercise the same judgment as on the on-ice official. I'd rather the NHL focus on being right by the action on the ice as opposed to right by a set of arbitrary rules governing replays.

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As someone on the main board pointed out, that "inconclusive to overturn" deal is NFL only. In the NHL, it has to be a conclusive goal to be ruled a goal. The ref's call has nothing to do with it. (there's a link to this rule on the main board)

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As someone on the main board pointed out, that "inconclusive to overturn" deal is NFL only. In the NHL, it has to be a conclusive goal to be ruled a goal. The ref's call has nothing to do with it. (there's a link to this rule on the main board)
I guess the announcer misspoke. Although I will say this, it might not be written in a similar fashion to the NFL rule where distinct language legislating overturning a call is present, but it is nearly impossible to reconcile this ruling by the off-ice officials with reality unless the NHL replay system uses a de facto "inconclusive to overturn" rule. It may not be mandated, but it appears to be the system employed.

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As someone on the main board pointed out, that "inconclusive to overturn" deal is NFL only. In the NHL, it has to be a conclusive goal to be ruled a goal. The ref's call has nothing to do with it. (there's a link to this rule on the main board)
that actually is not true at all. On the tv series on HBO "24/7" for the New Year's Game (Winter Classic), the war room guys ask the ref (before they EVER look at the replay) what the call on the ice is. Then they try to overrule the call based on the initial call.

I don't think it is in the rulebook, but the show "24/7" (or maybe it was the Edmonton Oilers show on NHL Network -- "Oil Change") made it abundantly clear that they do take into consideration the refs initial decision before they ever even look at the replay.

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The Hossa goal is tricky. It was a BAD call obviously, but I don't think it's a conspiracy...

First, the kicking motion is negated by the fact that the puck hit the post. I watched it frame by frame a couple of times, and as far as I can tell the puck is headed slightly away from the goal line after it hits the post. Immediately Hossa's stick comes into view, and the puck then looks to change course so that it rides the goal line. At the end of the replay it looks like the puck is actually going into the net, but I never saw any white between the red line and the puck.

Second, it was ruled a goal on the ice. Personally I think it should have been overturned, but the officials will always get the benefit of the doubt. If anything it isn't so much a conspiracy to get Chicago into the play offs as it's a conspiracy to keep from making the officials look bad (well... keep them from looking worse anyway). I don't really know why the NHL would like Chicago in over Dallas or Calgary. All three can draw in tv viewers

There was a goal in the Anaheim game that I believe went to Selanne that was MUCH more obvious. He blatantly kicked the puck in with the toe of his skate, and they ruled it a goal both on the ice and in the war room. That one was freakin' terrible
Chicago is the 3rd or 4th largest television market in the United States. Dallas is like 10 and Calgary doesn't register on the radar for television ratings.

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That kick was even better than Suter's. There should have NEVER been a review about crossing the line or not; this just makes me sick the crackhawks are still alive because of such a missed call.

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Chicago is the 3rd or 4th largest television market in the United States. Dallas is like 10 and Calgary doesn't register on the radar for television ratings.
Chicago was third in 2005. Dallas was seventh. Calgary draws viewers from across Canada just like any Canadian team can do. I don't see how anyone can assume there is incentive for conspiracy here; even if they traded Dallas for Chicago they would STILL have seven of the top eight media markets in the country. That four spot difference isn't a big enough deal to risk a huge scandal that could potentially collapse the entire league...



Cruising around the main boards I saw these little jewels.

The Globe and Mail's list of the top defensive defensemen in the league: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...rticle1983801/

I love how Hamhuis is number one, but he couldn't even crack our top pairing

TGAM's list of best defensive forwards: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...rticle1984107/

Legwand isn't as good defensively as Burrows, Malholtra, or Burish

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