Most top 5 picks(which Marleau is) hit their 4th and 5th NHL years earlier because they usually crack the NHL at 18-19-20 not 21 and 22...Marleau was in his 12th season last year...so HOW IS HE JUST NOW ENTERING HIS PRIME??????
I'm sorry, please quote me when I said Marleau is now ENTERING his prime? That was someone else. You said, on 2 occasions, that MOST forwards hit their prime at 22. I simply stated that you are very wrong. Marleau really entered his prime in 05-06, after 7 full seasons in the NHL. If you read the article I linked to, it says forwards are usually very close to their prime after 6 years of experience. As you stated, since he started playing full time at the age of 19, he entered his prime when he was 26. Because of the lock out, you could say he might've hit it when he was 25. That's still 25-26 yrs old, not 22-23 like you said.
Even Rick Nash had his first good year at 23, his first really good year at 24, and trust me that we have not yet seen the best of him.
There are exceptions, Crosby, Malkin, Ovechkin, Kovalchuk... but these are exceptions, not the norm. So again, you say MOST PLAYERS hit their prime at 22-23, I say this is incredibly wrong.
PS We obviously both agree that Marleau is NOT entering his prime. He has another 3-4 good years in him. I also think he's very over-evaluated, I'm personally not a big fan...
With the money Kovalchuk is making he can be in a warm place anywhere in the world whenever he likes all year round, all he needs to do is charter a private jet. He can meet his wife on his day off on a tropical resort whenever he feels like it. There's no need for him to be on a team which has a warm climate because he can have several properties all over the world including buying his own desert island. During his off season he can choose to live anywhere in the world. While he travels with his team his wife and family can live at any one of his numerous properties across the world. So this argument makes no sense that he only wants to be on a team in the south.
My argument makes no sense....are you freaking kidding me?
Did you even read what you typed there, I did and quite frankly I feel like I just killed more brain cells doing that than you did smoking that fatty before posting.
I honestly don't care if you believe it or not, I'm just going by what he, his family and people close to him have been saying for a while now. You can stick to your private jet theory though, good luck with that
Look dude, just do a lil research on it before trying to use the ole "Private jet" theory to debunk it.
I guess it makes sense if you're 13 and live with your parents. Hockey players have so many days off, they can easily jump on a private jet and beach it out in the bahamas... because, no team would ever have a problem with that...
But if the wife is really that sensitive to nice weather, no wonder he wanted out of Atlanta. Some of the worst, least desirable climate I've ever seen... California or Denver for sure.
For the last time, Kovalchuk is not and will not be going to a big market team or any team in the north for that matter.
He doesn't want the attention, enjoys his privacy too much and wants to be somewhere warm for his family.
I think you are refering to a statement Kovalchuk' wife is alleged to have made of "preferring" to live in a warm climate, but you forget to mention that Kovalchuk has also said that it is very important for him to win the Stanley cup. So I think all things being equal it is more important to Kovalchuk that he's on a contending team than being in a city with a great climate. It is merely a "preferrence", it does not mean that he absolutely has to go to a city with a great climate. That would be completely ridiculous for a professional hockey player to make such an assertion. No one would take him seriously if he believed that. And the fact that you put so much weight on this rumor that his wife wants to be in a warm climate as a reason for Kovalchuk not coming to Montreal makes you look like either a child, a fool, or both.
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I think you are refering to a statement Kovalchuk' wife is alleged to have made of "preferring" to live in a warm climate, but you forget to mention that Kovalchuk has also said that it is very important for him to win the Stanley cup. So I think all things being equal it is more important to Kovalchuk that he's on a contending team than being in a city with a great climate. It is merely a "preferrence", it does not mean that he absolutely has to go to a city with a great climate. That would be completely ridiculous for a professional hockey player to make such an assertion. No one would take him seriously if he believed that. And the fact that you put so much weight on this rumor that his wife wants to be in a warm climate as a reason for Kovalchuk not coming to Montreal makes you look like either a child, a fool, or both.
I agree it should never be the ONLY reason, but let's be honest... if he gets similar offers from Montreal, LA and Denver, I would imagine Mtl would be #3 on his list. Climate + privacy = LA or Denver...
I think you are refering to a statement Kovalchuk' wife is alleged to have made of "preferring" to live in a warm climate, but you forget to mention that Kovalchuk has also said that it is very important for him to win the Stanley cup. So I think all things being equal it is more important to Kovalchuk that he's on a contending team than being in a city with a great climate. It is merely a "preferrence", it does not mean that he absolutely has to go to a city with a great climate. That would be completely ridiculous for a professional hockey player to make such an assertion. No one would take him seriously if he believed that. And the fact that you put so much weight on this rumor that his wife wants to be in a warm climate as a reason for Kovalchuk not coming to Montreal makes you look like either a child, a fool, or both.
Yeah...I look like the child, fool or both what was that about the private jet again....
Anywho....you conveniently forgot about the whole privacy thing and i'm not sure if you've noticed but Montreal is about as high profile as you can get.
Sure, I would love to have him in a Habs uni, I thought that over a year ago when his pending UFA status was first being talked about. Unfortunately after doing a lil research at the time it was fairly evident that places such as Montreal and Toronto were pretty much **** out of luck.
That being said, Gainey did say he tried to go after him before he signed with NJD, it wasnt worded as "throw the bank" but there is interest (as there should be).
The difference between then and now is the Habs performance during the playoffs, that might make us even more attractive if Kovy is looking for a contender.
Maybe it was a backup plan for not getting Vinny, who knows. But it doesn't mean they still think of getting Kovalchuk.
Maybe it was a backup plan for not getting Vinny, who knows. But it doesn't mean they still think of getting Kovalchuk.
That was way after the Vinny debacle, when Kovy was traded to NJ, talks about Vinny and the habs had died down. At this point in each of their careers, Vinny is the backup plan, not Kovalchuk.
If you have Kovalchuk and Cammalleri on the same line who will get them the puck...saying John Madden is a joke. Kovalchuk is dangerous 1 on 1 and on the rush so you don't necessarily need a great center for him, but Cammy needs a good playmaker to score 40 and play up to potential. Also the center on taht line would need to play both ways and be a good forechecker to get the puck for those guys.
The solution is simple we reunite Cammalleri with playmaker Gomez and Gionta.
We then form a second line with Kovalchuk, Ellers, and Pouliot.
I think maybe the 121 who voted for Marleau have not seen him play that often. I don't think any of those players are worth the money myself, but Pleks comes the closest.
So it looks like Plekanec is probably going to get a long term front loaded contract from Montreal.
Also, for those Kovalchuk fans out there I found this interesting quote from him that pretty much places Kovalchuk on any serious Stanley cup contending team that is willing to throw the bank at him. I guess he will judge the contending team which can best win the cup with him. The fact that Montreal went so far into the playoffs should be a huge consideration and they have excellent playmakers in Gomez and Plekanec who can compliment a sniper like Kovalchuk very well.
"I am going to wait for July 1 when the free agent market opens. And then we'll see. I think everything will be decided very quickly."-Ilya Kovalchuk
So it looks like Plekanec is probably going to get a long term front loaded contract from Montreal.
Also, for those Kovalchuk fans out there I found this interesting quote from him that pretty much places Kovalchuk on any serious Stanley cup contending team that is willing to throw the bank at him. I guess he will judge the contending team which can best win the cup with him. The fact that Montreal went so far into the playoffs should be a huge consideration and they have excellent playmakers in Gomez and Plekanec who can compliment a sniper like Kovalchuk very well.
"I am going to wait for July 1 when the free agent market opens. And then we'll see. I think everything will be decided very quickly."-Ilya Kovalchuk
Here's hoping Markov will talk with Kovalchuk and try to sell him on Montreal.
So it looks like Plekanec is probably going to get a long term front loaded contract from Montreal.
Also, for those Kovalchuk fans out there I found this interesting quote from him that pretty much places Kovalchuk on any serious Stanley cup contending team that is willing to throw the bank at him. I guess he will judge the contending team which can best win the cup with him. The fact that Montreal went so far into the playoffs should be a huge consideration and they have excellent playmakers in Gomez and Plekanec who can compliment a sniper like Kovalchuk very well.
"I am going to wait for July 1 when the free agent market opens. And then we'll see. I think everything will be decided very quickly."-Ilya Kovalchuk
If we can get Plekanec for 6 years 27 mil...6 mil 6 mil 6 mil 4 mil 3 mil 2 mil...I would be very very happy.
what was that about the private jet again....
