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Some moves that may happen(from edmonton journal)

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06-20-2010, 01:58 PM
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If that's the offer of Gauthier he gets his choice of either Huet or Campbell
Oh, c'mon, be fair. Campbell actually has value despite his contract.

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what would it take for the Leafs to get Sharp and Versteeg besides Schenn & Kadri?

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More reasonable than Rosival. Minni could use him, but then again, so could a handful of other teams.
Ya, sure, they could use Ribeiro the player.

Just not at his cap hit and age in addition to moving Burns. They'd have a tough time fitting everyone under the cap keeping in mind they've also need to extend Mikko Koivu and Latendresse, in addition to Bouchard's up in the air status as well as further adding to the team.

The Wild are a lot closer to rebuilding than they are contending. Moving a young, potentially high end player for a 30 year old expensive player doesn't exactly help their end game in all of this.

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what would it take for the Leafs to get Sharp and Versteeg besides Schenn & Kadri?
Wont be getting both without either of those prospects coming our way or takign Campbell's contract with them

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06-20-2010, 02:05 PM
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Souray & 4th rounder for Stafford & 3rd rounder...

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06-20-2010, 02:07 PM
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Wont be getting both without either of those prospects coming our way or takign Campbell's contract with them
What if Chicago dumped Campbell somewhere else (not Toronto), could Sharp and Versteeg be had for Kaberle and maybe Caputi?

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I'd definitely take Connolly in a straight up deal. Or would the Sabres expect more? Can't see much more than a 4th or 5th rder added.
i think the Sabres would do it straight up. Similar salaries and allows them to pursue a C through trade or free agency

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Souray & 4th rounder for Stafford & 3rd rounder...
What about Souray + Cogliano or Nillson or Potulny for Rivet + Stafford?

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Avs will take Versteeg and Sopel for a 2nd.
This makes sense from an Avs perspective. Do this, let the team develop and hit whatever roadbumps they're going to hit next year, then Sopel is off the books next year.

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i think the Sabres would do it straight up. Similar salaries and allows them to pursue a C through trade or free agency
How long is Connolly signed for? If 3 years or less, I do Souray for him no questions asked.

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according to Jim matthieson of the Edmonton journal

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/sport...724/story.html


kris Verteeg could be had for a second rounder--but the team will need to take Brent Sopal as well

Burns is available for a center

Dallas looking to move Roberio

Souray could be a fit in Buffalo

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/sport...333/story.html

ray whitney to the pens

Boston has interest in oiler pick riley nash who reportedly has zero interest in the oilers

Thinks Patty M will end up with the kings and not Kovey
I'm going to talk about the bolded. That's not what the article said. Matty said that Riley Nash is an offensive-minded centre and that Gagner, Brule and Cogliano are ahead of him on the depth chart.

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I wonder now if Souray would waive his NTC to come to Buffalo. dreger said in feb Buffalo approached Edmonton about him but Souray refused to waive
Spouray's NMC expires on July 1, 2010 and the Oilers can trade Souray to wherever they want to when the NMC expires.

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06-20-2010, 02:25 PM
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How long is Connolly signed for? If 3 years or less, I do Souray for him no questions asked.
1yr, 4.5mil. Too good to be true if you ask me.

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Dubinsky was used as a LW'er for a good part of the season.
He's still a center.

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Spouray's NMC expires on July 1, 2010 and the Oilers can trade Souray to wherever they want to when the NMC expires.
Even then, i'm sure a team who he WOULDNT waive to go to would be skeptical in acquiring him since he could pull this crap again and ask for another trade.

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I'm going to talk about the bolded. That's not what the article said. Matty said that Riley Nash as an offensive-minded centre and that Gagner, Brule and Cogliano are ahead of him on the depth chart.

there has been a heated debated in Edmonton for awhile--Riley and the oilers are not on the same page and matthieson has previously talked about the fact he doubts that Riley wants to go to Edmonton due to previous dealings with the oilers

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Ya, sure, they could use Ribeiro the player.

Just not at his cap hit and age in addition to moving Burns. They'd have a tough time fitting everyone under the cap keeping in mind they've also need to extend Mikko Koivu and Latendresse, in addition to Bouchard's up in the air status as well as further adding to the team.

The Wild are a lot closer to rebuilding than they are contending. Moving a young, potentially high end player for a 30 year old expensive player doesn't exactly help their end game in all of this.
All valid points, but I don't agree that Ribeiro's age and expense would downgrade his value in a trade talk scenario.

.95 PPG over the past 3 season putting up on average around 23 goals while not playing with top wingers. And his even strength numbers are as good as Richards'.

I'd say age and maturity are working in his favor, of course thats a judgement call, but I think most would agree he's alot more physically and mentally mature than he was in his Montreal days.

Not trying to sell you the Ribs because I think there may be better value out there, but IMO Burns won't fetch you a lot better return considering his more recent injury and consistency issues.

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He doesn't look the same to me as he did

He may still have been recovering but last year he just didn't look like the young franchise dman he was on track to be

Didn't help that I saw him on ice with Barker a few times ,,,,,,, That in its self can drag down his play. Hard to be a d partner for a wreck like Barker and look good
He was Canada's best dman at the World Championships and was playing 23+ mins a game. The concern would be once you've had a concussion are you one hit away from never returning? And yes healthy he would be better then Campbell and Hammer

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Patrick Sharp, 2010 1st and Leddy for Burns

Souray to the Sabres for Roy, or Souray and Cogliano to the Sabres for Vanek and 2nd

Ribeiro and Brunnstrom to Anaheim for Ryan and 6th

Nash and Cogliano to the Bruins for 15th overall and 3rd

I'd like to see Versteeg and Sopel for 2nd, if ya guys want Ballard, throw in Byfuglien and we'll take out the second, make it a fifth.

And LA should forget Marleau and go for Kovy, although they will give Doughty and Schenn tons of money in the near future, and a few other good players.

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In regards to ALL the Burns proposals and offers, etc...


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Wow. I never read the Journal because it's of the most generic **** out there, and it goes through mostly just local news. However, that trade speculation is of the most accurate I've seen from any professional hockey speculation (TSN, various other national newspapers, etc..

If I were the Ranger's I wouldn't dump Dubinsky. Maybe for a prospect? Anisimov? I just love the intensity Dubinsky brings game in game out. Him and Callahan are the Ranger's in my opinion, along with Staal, Lundqvist, etc..

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Not trying to sell you the Ribs because I think there may be better value out there, but IMO Burns won't fetch you a lot better return considering his more recent injury and consistency issues.
Don't disagree with everything you're saying.

However the quoted sum of you're post is why I wouldn't be in favor of moving Burns. His value is just as low as it may likely ever be. I believe if you're going to move him, it shouldn't be at this point. I think the earliest would be at the deadline and more likely, next offseason.

As for Ribeiro, again, I like the guy as a player. Just given where this team currently is, by the time they may be best suited to make a run at anything, he may very well be on the downside of his career. I don't doubt he'd make a fairly good impact immediately. I just think the Wild are a pretty decent amount of time away from realistically competing.

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Souray & 4th rounder for Stafford & 3rd rounder...
Done.

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Done.
Not so sure I would do this. For cap reasons, it would be fantastic. It would mean however, that the Oilers plan on taking Seguin which I feel would be the wrong move.

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Even then, i'm sure a team who he WOULDNT waive to go to would be skeptical in acquiring him since he could pull this crap again and ask for another trade.
I disagree. He forfeited any special considerations from Oiler management the second he decided to go public. He had to understand he ran that risk when he chose to do what he did. And with that understanding comes the understanding that any deal will accommodate the Oilers asset wise, not Souray location wise. Part of his problem was the Oilers not being a playoff team, in Buffalo that won't be an issue. Playing with a friend/former teammate in Rivet may also appeal to him. The bottom line is that Souray tarnished his own reputation by making public statements, the only way to prove he was justified is to shut up and play. He wants to feel wanted and important to the organization? Obviously any team trading for his services wants him. The guy is a helluva player when healthy, would be a big boost to the Sabres PP, and would get to play in a winning atmosphere. If he thinks he can posture with Oilers management, he's way off. Tambo could easily play hardball:

Tambo: "Sheldon, what do you think about becoming a Sabre?"

Souray: "I said the West Coast Steve!"

Tambo: "Sheldon, what do you think about becoming an Oklahoma City Baron?"

Souray: "I wonder if TO wants to sell his place?"

As far as the basis of the deal, I can't see how it doesn't happen. Buffalo could use a PP triggerman and some added toughness. Check and Check. Injury problems? Connolly has played fewer games than Souray since the lockout by a wide margin. Both players are very effective when healthy, so I see little risk from either team. Really like Connolly's skill set.

Make this happen Tambo.

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