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06-18-2010, 10:44 PM
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Matt Cooke

Do you really want him back? This team is loaded with 3rd/4th line players and have guys chomping at the bit in the minors for a shot at the NHL.

Dupuis/Tangradi Staal Kennedy
Rupp Talbot Adams
Godard

Should be our bottom six forwards come training camp. A lot hinges on whether or not Tangradi can handle a top six role and I doubt he can right off the bat, so start him on the 3rd line for two months till he is ready to play with Sid/Geno. To me Cooke just seems to be putting Pascal Dupuis back with Crosby for another year instead of putting Dupuis in his correct position of 3rd line checker. He is versitile and can fill a top 6 role in a pinch but he should not be counted on when the team is at full strength IMO.

Love you CookE but I think its time to move on. Plus I think he will get like 2-3yrs 2m per from someone and this team just can't afford that.

Would any one take him back for 2-3 yrs 1.5m per? That makes Dupuis a top sixer again.

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06-18-2010, 10:55 PM
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I've hated him for years and years, so I hope he doesn't return.

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06-18-2010, 11:04 PM
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IMO the only way I'd take Cooke back is at 1.5 and I'd love to have him at that, but no more (or at least not much more) I'd take this lineup next year. Replace whoever for the FA I added just use that cap number/type of player.

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* Paul Karyia ($2.500m) / Sidney Crosby ($8.700m) / Pascal Dupuis ($1.400m)
Chris Kunitz ($3.725m) / Evgeni Malkin ($8.700m) / * Maxim Afinogenov ($2.400m)
* Matt Cooke ($1.500m) / Jordan Staal ($4.000m) / Tyler Kennedy ($0.725m)
Michael Rupp ($0.825m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.050m) / Craig Adams ($0.550m)
Eric Godard ($0.750m)
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Brooks Orpik ($3.750m) / Kristopher Letang ($3.500m)
* Dan Hamhuis ($3.750m) / Alex Goligoski ($1.833m)
* Mark Eaton ($1.750m) / * Ben Lovejoy ($0.500m)
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06-18-2010, 11:06 PM
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I don't want Paul Kariya, and in spite of what you may think, neither do you.

Cooke would be just fine to hang onto. The Penguins don't win that first round series without him, remember.

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06-18-2010, 11:11 PM
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06-18-2010, 11:14 PM
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You don't have to want Karyia... I was just throwin a name out there that could be a solid twenty goal/40-50 point guy for 2.5m. Put whoever you want there. How much you think Cooke signs for on the open market. I think his price will go too high if they don't sign him by July 1st.

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06-18-2010, 11:17 PM
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I would love to keep Cooke if money wasn't an issue. However, he could easily get 2m on the open market (remember, Steve Ott makes 2.9m), and maybe more. He has to give us a pretty big discount for us to be able to reasonably keep him, which I don't think will happen.

I'm perfectly fine letting Tangradi step into Cooke's spot if we can't re-sign Cooke.

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06-18-2010, 11:33 PM
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I'd love him back, but he might be a luxury we can't afford for the 3rd line.

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06-18-2010, 11:45 PM
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He may be a pest, but he does his job well. When need be, he can also step it up and score. He had 31 points in 2008-09 and 30 points last year. Given the fact that our 3rd line was probably the best 3rd line in the NHL last year, getting rid of Cookie just doesn't seem right.

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06-19-2010, 12:01 AM
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At the beginning of the off-season I thought it was crucial to re-sign Cooke but now I'm not so sure. Part of me would like to see Tangradi on the LW on that 3rd line. And if he showed he could hang in the NHL, maybe move him up into a top six role. We would lose some grit if Cooke moved on but that's not too hard to find. I think he will be re-signed though. I think Shero and HCDB both want him back and Cooke seems to fit pretty well in the locker room.

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06-19-2010, 12:52 AM
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let's just say i don't want sid and geno to have to play against cooke. if he does leave i hope it's the western conference.

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06-19-2010, 01:09 AM
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let's just say i don't want sid and geno to have to play against cooke. if he does leave i hope it's the western conference.
Call me crazy but even if he did leave for another team I highly doubt Cookie would intentionally do anything "dirty" to Sid or Geno after being on a team with them for 2 years and winning a Cup with them. I'm sure he has a great level of respect for them, and knows that if he ever did do something to them, there'd be huge consequences.

Just my $0.02

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06-19-2010, 01:11 AM
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After Staal, Cooke is by far our best bottom 6er, and he's a better forward than 3 of our top 6ers.

We'll miss him if he doesn't get re-signed.

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06-19-2010, 02:00 AM
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Absolutely I want him back on the team. He's more important than many care to realize.

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06-19-2010, 02:07 AM
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I really want him re-signed, but I have a feeling he won't be coming back.

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06-19-2010, 03:45 AM
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After Staal, Cooke is by far our best bottom 6er, and he's a better forward than 3 of our top 6ers.

We'll miss him if he doesn't get re-signed.
Agreed completely, Cooke was awesome this year and has been so since he came to Pittsburgh. Our third line will take a very noticable hit without his presence.

With that said, we can't really afford to overpay role players, so if he tests the market for money reasons he likely won't be back since we probably can't match anything over $2 million. I remember an interview of his where he talked about how important winning is to him, so perhaps he'll give us a favorable discount to keep him in Pittsburgh. Let's hope that's how it works out.

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06-19-2010, 04:17 AM
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I WANT Cooke back, however... we might not be able to afford him back. I know he can get 2+ million on the open-market, but I just don't think we can give another 3rd-liner 2 million, when we already have 4 million tied up to Jordan Staal/to one player on the 3rd-line already.

However, somewhere around the 1.3-1.6 range and I will GLADLY take Cooke back. He is one of the most important members to this team, and it would just plain-out suck balls to play against him.

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06-19-2010, 05:13 AM
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I really want him back!!

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We either need to sign someone like Cooke or sign him. Hockey is a mental game as well and we need someone to piss off the other team so that their minds start being more focused on Cooke than Malkin or Crosby. Add in that Cooke is a good team member and would be hard to see him go. I would love him back but 2 million, even with his extra assets is too much for a 30 point player.

we need to start drafting better. Our scouts seem to be able to find defencemen in later rounds but nothing is really coming for our top two forward lines.

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Are you guys nuts? Hell yes we want him back. Hes an excellent 2 way player and outstanding on the pk.

I cannot believe anyone would not want him back. Wow. He was one of the only ones who seemed to show up vs Montreal.

Hes a must sign.

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06-19-2010, 07:12 AM
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Cooke must be back, offer him three years to keep his cap hit around 1.5 to 1.75 million. He's a guy whose game is based on him being a reckless pest, this won't go away as he ages. He has no great speed to lose nor good hands nor is he a goon catching "I'm a real player" syndrome. I expect Cooke to be Cooke for a couple more years so keep him around. And remember: as long as he's here he can't cheapshot Penguins players.

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After Staal, Cooke is by far our best bottom 6er, and he's a better forward than 3 of our top 6ers.

We'll miss him if he doesn't get re-signed.
I agree. If we ever found a scorer to put on the line with Staal and Cooke, a creative guy who can carry and hold the puck, that 3rd line would rack up alot of points. Maybe Alex Tanguay


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06-19-2010, 07:38 AM
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Absolutely I want him back on the team. He's more important than many care to realize.
This.

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I want Cooke back, I don't want Cooke to go Cooke on one of our defensemen like he did on Timmonen.

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