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06-22-2010, 05:40 PM
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Montreal 1st pick and Max Pac could do it I guess. Throw-in Sergei, they could sign him really cheap and try him with Kane. Then MTL could have Buff. Ladd would come a little cheaper I guess. Both would help tremendously to balance the Habs line up. Big boost against bunch of thugs like the Laffs or the Flyers.
I wouldn't give up on MaxPac that quickly. I also like Weber too. I like how some fans just toss any name out there as throw-ins...then cry when that throw-in develops into a nice player on a different team. They'll cry about development and all that other nonsense.

Let Max play a full season in the AHL before making a decision on him.

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06-22-2010, 05:41 PM
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buff+ ladd for 1st 2010 Pacioretty and SK

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06-22-2010, 05:42 PM
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buff+ ladd for 1st 2010 Pacioretty and SK
I don't think we can afford to plug in both Buff and Ladd. Anyways, definitely ok with getting Byfuglien as long as we trade AK somewhere else. I don't think we should go after Ladd since our bottom 6 is already looking good: Moore, Lapierre, Pyatt, White, Eller, Moen and Darche (hopefully re-sign Moore and Lappy).

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06-22-2010, 06:03 PM
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I want Ladd!

Way better player than Buffy The Luongo Slayer.

Go get him PG!

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06-22-2010, 06:57 PM
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Big Buff for a 1st rounder and a prospect is a major over payment in my opinion.

Ladd at least can penalty kill and play a checking role and probably at times move up on the 1st and 2nd lines at times.

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06-22-2010, 06:59 PM
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Seriously. Gauthier should be on this like peanut butter on toast. This is a no brainer.
Yeah. Total no-brainer:

Step 1- Find a 100' pole.
Step 2- Use it to not touch this.

Byfuglien is overrated due to a really good playoff, like Pisani and Umberger before him. He's a 3rd-liner, maybe good for 20 goals, and a poor fit for the Habs who need someone to slot in their top-6. And he makes 3M. A first and a prospect (and I doubt they'll settle for SK)? Highway robbery.

There's a fit with the Hawks but Byfuglien isn't it. Let some other GM buy the hype and overpay.

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06-22-2010, 07:03 PM
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Yeah. Total no-brainer:

Step 1- Find a 100' pole.
Step 2- Use it to not touch this.

Byfuglien is overrated due to a really good playoff, like Pisani and Umberger before him. He's a 3rd-liner, maybe good for 20 goals, and a poor fit for the Habs who need someone to slot in their top-6. And he makes 3M. A first and a prospect (and I doubt they'll settle for SK)? Highway robbery.

There's a fit with the Hawks but Byfuglien isn't it. Let some other GM buy the hype and overpay.
Ladd would be a different story though. I'm not sure why some are claiming he'd come cheaper than Buf though, he's the better all around player IMO.

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06-22-2010, 07:05 PM
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Buff vs. Chara would be fun.

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Has there been any discussion about this in the media at all?

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06-22-2010, 07:11 PM
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I would trade a prospect and our first for Byfuglien but I would not trade Pacioretty

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Some people seem to ignore the fact that he's a D converted to forward. He played D last season. That would be valuable for us at the beginning of the next season.

I proposed: Habs' 27th + Conboy on the main board. It's what they're asking for a 1st and a prospect.

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06-22-2010, 07:29 PM
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like i said from another board. To get Byfuglen + Ladd and late 1 round pick or 2 round pick. I'll give 27 overall + S.Kos + Pouliot. Too bad, i"m not G.M lol

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With the trades Tallon just did he acquired a 1st and needs some forwards because of the Horton and Campbell departures. He either is trying to set himself up to get Big Buff and/or Versteeg in Chicago, and if not he still needs forwards...maybe Habs can try to move the Kostitysn brothers in a deal?

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Some people seem to ignore the fact that he's a D converted to forward. He played D last season. That would be valuable for us at the beginning of the next season.
He's a godawful D-man though...

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I would trade a prospect and our first for Byfuglien but I would not trade Pacioretty
What about

Habs 1st + Pacioretty for Byfuglien and Eager (RFA)

Eager and Byfuglien would bring lots of size/toughness to Habs while being able to contribute on forecheck/offensive attack

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He's a godawful D-man though...
No he is not

When he came into league his skating/weight were issues at D

But when he went back after Campbell injury he looked great for most part back there.

His skating and weight are no longer an issue and those allow him to have greater mobility then he had when he 1st came into league as a dman

He played in our top 4 most of the time Campbell was hurt

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What about

Habs 1st + Pacioretty for Byfuglien and Eager (RFA)

Eager and Byfuglien would bring lots of size/toughness to Habs while being able to contribute on forecheck/offensive attack
I think i might want to sub that 1st rounder for a 2nd and a lower tier prospect, but i'd do it... if there was no salary cap.

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What about

Habs 1st + Pacioretty for Byfuglien and Eager (RFA)

Eager and Byfuglien would bring lots of size/toughness to Habs while being able to contribute on forecheck/offensive attack
Habs 2nd and Ben Maxwell for Andrew Ladd.

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What about

Habs 1st + Pacioretty for Byfuglien and Eager (RFA)

Eager and Byfuglien would bring lots of size/toughness to Habs while being able to contribute on forecheck/offensive attack
I honestly do that. How much is Eager looking for?

Cammy-Plek-AK
Buffy-Gomez-Gionta
Pouliot-Eller-Lapierre
Eager-Pyatt-Moen

Markov-Subban
Spacek-O'Byrne
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Price

I like very much

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I honestly do that. How much is Eager looking for?

Cammy-Plek-AK
Buffy-Gomez-Gionta
Pouliot-Eller-Lapierre
Eager-Pyatt-Moen

Markov-Subban
Spacek-O'Byrne
Gill-Gorges

Price

I like very much
Edit since I can't lol

What will it cost for Ladd instead of Eager?

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What about

Habs 1st + Pacioretty for Byfuglien and Eager (RFA)

Eager and Byfuglien would bring lots of size/toughness to Habs while being able to contribute on forecheck/offensive attack
I would do that in a heartbeat!

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Eager is reportedly looking for something around 1.1 mil (Also cant afford it)

Ladd's value is probably one of these 3

-Good prospect
-Good pick (2010 2nd)
-solid pick (3rd) + solid prospect

And Weber doesn't work for Hawks (I see him get thrown into alot of deals)

We have Connelly about to make jump from AHL to NHL (Offensive dman + Solid in his own end)

And we have Lalonde to be in AHL this year and Leddy in NCAA so offensive dman prospects are not needed

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Big Buff for a 1st rounder and a prospect is a major over payment in my opinion.

Ladd at least can penalty kill and play a checking role and probably at times move up on the 1st and 2nd lines at times.
It is an overpayment, but the way he manhandled Pronger in that Finals is so awesome.

I have a feeling he would come here and just dominate with that Montreal crowd behind him.

Not only that, but he is versatile. He plays defence as well.

Ladd would fit in more though. He outscored Byfuglien in the regular season despite averaging 2 mins less PP time a game. Not as physically dominant, but tough nonetheless. And cheaper.

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Well it is quite obvious that the Hawks are over pricing their players, and that in reality they have no real power or upper hand in deals right now.

Pierre Lebrun talked to a league executive in the East and they pretty much stated as much:

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But I can pass on that three Eastern Conference executives, who shall remain anonymous, told me Tuesday that Kris Versteeg, Dustin Byfuglien and Andrew Ladd are the three players being shopped the most, but Patrick Sharp is not available. At least not at this point.

The price for Byfuglien, specifically, is a first-round pick and a prospect.

"Good luck," said one NHL GM, who requested anonymity. "No freakin' way they get a first-round pick. They're asking too much for all their guys right now.
http://espn.go.com/nhl/blog/_/name/l...-crazy-tuesday

The guys mentioned in trade Versteeg, Byfuglien and Ladd will be had for less, especially Ladd since he has to be qualified on Monday.

Florida is far from being done too according to Tallon.

From another site Murray in Anaheim said they will need to rebulid their D, and they are not rebuilding the team.

There are some good trading partners there for the Habs, lets hope PG is working the phones.

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