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06-22-2010, 03:33 PM
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$59.4 million Cap Set

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Great News for Wings fans. We have a little more room to sign our remaining RFA's and maybe make a dip into the UFA market.



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June 22, Globe and Mail: NHLPA votes to keep 5 per cent growth factor in the salary cap. Expect a cap of $58.5- to $59-million to be announced by Friday.
TSN: Expects cap to go to ~$59m.


Last edited by Fugu: 06-22-2010 at 04:27 PM. Reason: ... i see no direct cap info in your link???
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06-22-2010, 03:50 PM
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Right number is 59.24 million.

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Great news indeed!!

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The ability to keep their own free agents shouldn't be a problem now...great news!

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As said:

Salary cap has gone up almost $3 million. The new salary cap is $59.64 million, $2.84 more than least season's $56.8 million.

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just enough for 1 year mike modano contract

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06-22-2010, 05:00 PM
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Salary cap has gone up almost $3 million. The new salary cap is $59.64 million, $2.84 more than least season's $56.8 million.
These numbers are all over the place today.


There is no official cap number yet. NHL will announce it before 1 July.


If anyone is going to post cap numbers, please provide a link. If it's a tweet, it should be one run by a reporter affiliated with a news group, e.g., Globe & Mail, TSN.

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This is great news and should help us dealing with our grit problem *hint* Asham anyone?

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06-22-2010, 06:33 PM
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This is nice, but man I have to admit that a part of me was hoping the NHLPA wouldn't exercise the 5% kicker. That woulda made the cap drop from last season and man oh man would it have been fun to see the Hawks and their fans scrambling to get under the cap then, especially with so many potential trade partners having far less cap room than anticipated lol.

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You know the Hawks are still in cap hell. They desperately need to dumb Huet or Campbell otherwise they are destinated for losing Ladd, Versteeg, Buflin and maybe Sharp.

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They'll probably waive Huet once training camp ends and bury him in the AHL. Even then they'll still lose probably two of the names off that list. Or guy like a Bolland.

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Well, as I see it, this just means lilja is returning.

What I see is something like this:
2010-11 DETROIT RED WINGS
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR
FORWARDS
Jiri Hudler ($2.875m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($1.938m)
Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Daniel Cleary ($2.800m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / * Patrick Eaves ($0.850m)
Kris Draper ($1.583m) / * Darren Helm ($0.900m) / * Justin Abdelkader ($0.925m)
* Drew Miller ($0.725m) / Mattias Ritola ($0.517m)
DEFENSEMEN
Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.200m) / Brian Rafalski ($6.000m)
Brad Stuart ($3.750m) / Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($0.900m)
* Andreas Lilja ($1.250m)
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($0.717m) / Chris Osgood ($1.417m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
ROSTER: 23; CAP:$59.2m; PAYROLL: $58.842m; CAP ROOM: $0.358m BONUSES: $0.000m

However, if it were up to me, I'd drop Miller and promote Mursak or Tatar and go with:
2010-11 DETROIT RED WINGS
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR
FORWARDS
Jan Mursak ($0.646m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($1.938m)
Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Jiri Hudler ($2.875m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m)
* Justin Abdelkader ($0.925m) / * Darren Helm ($0.900m) / * Patrick Eaves ($0.850m)
Kris Draper ($1.583m) / Mattias Ritola ($0.517m)
DEFENSEMEN
Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.200m) / Brian Rafalski ($6.000m)
Brad Stuart ($3.750m) / Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($0.900m)
* Andreas Lilja ($1.250m)
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($0.717m) / Chris Osgood ($1.417m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
ROSTER: 23; CAP:$59.2m; PAYROLL: $58.763m; CAP ROOM: $0.437m BONUSES: $0.000m

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06-22-2010, 09:33 PM
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I don't see why the Wings would have Mursak in the minors if they though he could play top line minutes.

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I don't see why the Wings would have Mursak in the minors if they though he could play top line minutes.
It's not about top line minutes. Holmstrom has been a top line player for years despite not actually being a top line player.

I think Detroit has to do something to spread out the talent over three lines. Because if we can't pick up a legit skill player, we're stuck with two lines again.

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06-22-2010, 11:53 PM
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It's not about top line minutes. Holmstrom has been a top line player for years despite not actually being a top line player.

I think Detroit has to do something to spread out the talent over three lines. Because if we can't pick up a legit skill player, we're stuck with two lines again.
Yes, but our top 6 looks really nice. I don't think we should bring up Mursak or Tatar yet. Tatar definitely needs some time in Grand Rapids.

Besides, i'm sure the lines will be switched left and right all season and playoffs.

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06-23-2010, 12:38 AM
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Yes, but our top 6 looks really nice. I don't think we should bring up Mursak or Tatar yet. Tatar definitely needs some time in Grand Rapids.

Besides, i'm sure the lines will be switched left and right all season and playoffs.
I say give the kids every chance to win a job.
If they earn it in camp, give them the shot.

If it costs us a scrub like Miller or whoever on waivers, Oh Well.

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06-23-2010, 05:23 AM
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It's not about top line minutes. Holmstrom has been a top line player for years despite not actually being a top line player.

I think Detroit has to do something to spread out the talent over three lines. Because if we can't pick up a legit skill player, we're stuck with two lines again.
Maybe the answer is Mike Modano.

Franzen - Zeta - Cleary
Filppula - Dats - Bertuzzi
Hudler - Modano - Homer

If that's not solid 3 lines, so what is?

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06-23-2010, 08:39 AM
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That 3rd line would be a defensive nightmare. None of those players really have any speed left and Homer and Hudler don't exactly excel in their own end.

If you add Modano you'd be better off IMO with.....

Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Holmstrom
Franzen - Filppula - Bertuzzi
Hudler - Modano - Cleary

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06-23-2010, 08:48 AM
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That 3rd line would be a defensive nightmare. None of those players really have any speed left and Homer and Hudler don't exactly excel in their own end.

If you add Modano you'd be better off IMO with.....

Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Holmstrom
Franzen - Filppula - Bertuzzi
Hudler - Modano - Cleary

Homer can't play an entire game and season at ES. What do your lines look like when he's not in the top six?

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Homer can't play an entire game and season at ES. What do your lines look like when he's not in the top six?
Homer won't play on the 4th line, but I don't expect him to play 20+ a night either. I expect that Franzen (and maybe others) will occasionally double-shift in his spot during the game which will keep Homer at around 10-12 minutes max. You spread the other 8-10 minutes out between Franzen, Cleary, Bertuzzi, and Hudler on the top line. This season more than any other since Bowman I expect the lines to be fluid with very little set in stone during each game.

This shouldn't cause any problems since our 4th line will likely be populated by PK specialists like Helm, Miller, Eaves, and Draper. They can play more of the PK minutes which will keep the wingers fresher to play more ES minutes.

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Homer won't play on the 4th line, but I don't expect him to play 20+ a night either. I expect that Franzen (and maybe others) will occasionally double-shift in his spot during the game which will keep Homer at around 10-12 minutes max. You spread the other 8-10 minutes out between Franzen, Cleary, Bertuzzi, and Hudler on the top line. This season more than any other since Bowman I expect the lines to be fluid with very little set in stone during each game.

This shouldn't cause any problems since our 4th line will likely be populated by PK specialists like Helm, Miller, Eaves, and Draper. They can play more of the PK minutes which will keep the wingers fresher to play more ES minutes.

Babcock and fluid lines? This I have to see.

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Babcock and fluid lines? This I have to see.
He may not have a choice. Either he adapts or sinks. I think Babcock showed a willingness to change up the lines during games last season, but not as much as he probably should have and usually not until it was too late. Hopefully that was the start of a change and not just an abberation. He's a good coach, but if he wants to be a great coach he needs to prove that he isn't tied down to one set of beliefs and show adaptability.

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I say give the kids every chance to win a job.
If they earn it in camp, give them the shot.

If it costs us a scrub like Miller or whoever on waivers, Oh Well.
This is fine with me if Tatar or Mursak comes in and wins the job. I'd hate for the Wings to lose Miller just for the sake of handing Tatar or Mursak the job. If the earn it, fine.

But, what sort of point production do you expect from Mursak if he's playing with Pavel? I mean, I'd want at least 40 points out of him. Do you think he's capable of putting up 40 points in the NHL?

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59.4 is the final number?

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59.4 is the final number?

Yep, TSN has it up now:

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=325481
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The National Hockey League's salary cap has been set for the 2010-2011 season at $59.4 million.
The salary floor will be set at $43.4 million

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