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06-23-2010, 10:01 PM
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Volchenkov's rights to the Canucks for Bernier, 4th

http://senshot.com/2010/06/23/rumour...ts-to-canucks/

Dont know how legit this is but I found it on CDC and decided to post it on here for discussion terms. I'll put it on the main one as well.
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As I have learned, Volchie’s negotiating rights will be traded on June 25th, and likely to the Vancouver Canucks.

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hmm, not sure how i would feel about that, if true.

love volchenkov. hate to have another injury prone guy on the canucks, especially if we also bring willie back. if this crazy thing goes through, i'll probably also hate his big $5 million contract three years from now.

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Yes! I would luv it even if he is injured 10 games a year because of the amount of (manliness) shot blocking he brings. The source is pretty questionable.

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Nice, bring Wolf'enkov this way.

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Don't mind losing bernier, but volchenkov will likely be overpaid.

Got to admire his courage to block shots. But hes really a glorified gritty 2nd pair dman.

His passing is average, puck skill is average. I heard some say he can get 5 million, hes not worth it.

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nice. high risk, high reward.

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I'd kill for this. I want Volchenkov so bad. Didn't Gillis just say he thought trading for rights was dumb though?

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Assuming this rumour is true (which I have my doubts)...

So no 2nd, 3rd AND 4th round pick? I hope 4th rounder is conditional upon him signing.
To hell with picks. I don't care anymore if our kids get to witness a horrible Canucks team. The time is now!

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He also said never say never

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Why would they wait until the 25th to do this? Doesn't help either team to do that. Not buying it.

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I'd kill for this. I want Volchenkov so bad. Didn't Gillis just say he thought trading for rights was dumb though?
He also said in the same sentence that he would do it in the right position as well. Perhaps he retracted his statement when Hamhuis got traded less than 24hours later.

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I dont want to overpay for another injury pronde Dman

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Why would they wait until the 25th to do this? Doesn't help either team to do that. Not buying it.
Calgary acquired Bouwmeester's rights at the draft. If true, that's a long time to lock A-Train in a room with a pen and contract.

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Assuming this rumour is true (which I have my doubts)...

So no 2nd, 3rd AND 4th round pick? I hope 4th rounder is conditional upon him signing.
The rumour is Bernier and the 4th, but the rumour is a garbage most likely. Why would they wait until the draft to make such a trade, why not make it right now if it's available?

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I dont want to overpay for another injury pronde Dman
He routinely is near the top of the league in hits and blocked shots. I want him and I want him bad.

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Calgary acquired Bouwmeester's rights at the draft. If true, that's a long time to lock A-Train in a room with a pen and contract.
Sure, but if they've got the deal done, doing it now gives a couple extra days to negotiate and lets both teams concentrate on other things on a busy draft day. No reason to sit on the deal.

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He routinely is near the top of the league in hits and blocked shots. I want him and I want him bad.
I want him too, but at the $5M+ he's apparently seeking, it's scary. The guy has missed an average of 16 games per season the last three years. Adding that to our already weak defense at a premium cap hit is a big risk.

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Sure, but if they've got the deal done, doing it now gives a couple extra days to negotiate and lets both teams concentrate on other things on a busy draft day. No reason to sit on the deal.
Agreed. The schoolboy in me doesn't think of such things though.

The thing about A-Train is that he not only hits often, but he hits hard and to hurt.

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06-23-2010, 10:15 PM
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The rumour makes no sense.

According to Bruce Garrioch today:
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If the Sens deal UFA D Anton Volchenkov’s negotiating rights before July 1, they’ll get a conditional pick for the 2011 draft. There has been mild interest from a couple of teams. GM Bryan Murray will be working the phones.
http://www.torontosun.com/sports/hoc.../14494441.html

Trading Bernier and a pick to acquire Volchenkov's pending UFA rights is contrary to what Gillis said when asked acquiring the rights to Dan Hamhuis:
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The scenario was suggested to Mike Gillis a day before the Nashville Predators traded coveted defenceman Dan Hamhuis to the Philadelphia Flyers on Saturday.

Asked if he would part with a draft pick for exclusive negotiation rights for the pending unrestricted free agent, the Vancouver Canucks general manager said it wasn't a road he wanted to travel.

"First of all, I've never understood it from a player's perspective, unless there's only one team you want to go to," said Gillis. "There's an opportunity to overpay without understanding what the market is and it's not something I think we would do. But you never say never."
http://www.theprovince.com/sports/Ha...#ixzz0rjjSX53n

Also Volchenkov and Salo can have a running bet on who misses the most games due to injury:

Volchenkov's injury report since the lockout:
2010/04/01 Missed 1 game (upper body injury).
2010/03/30 Upper body injury, day-to-day.
2010/01/26 Missed 1 game (upper body injury).
2010/01/23 Upper body injury, day-to-day.
2009/12/01 Missed 14 games (dislocated right elbow).
2009/10/29 Dislocated right elbow, late November.
2009/01/27 Missed 9 games (shoulder injury).
2009/01/04 Shoulder injury, day-to-day.
2009/01/03 Missed 3 games (upper body injury).
2008/12/27 Upper body injury, day-to-day.
2008/12/19 Missed 2 games (lower body injury).
2008/12/13 Lower body injury, day-to-day.
2008/01/04 Missed 15 games (broken finger).
2008/01/01 Broken finger, day-to-day.
2007/11/30 Broken finger, sidelined indefinitely.
2007/11/29 Hand injury, left Thursday's game.
2007/04/03 Missed 1 game (headache).
2007/03/31 Headache, day-to-day.
2007/01/13 Missed 1 game (ankle injury).
2007/01/11 Ankle injury, day-to-day.
2006/11/30 Missed 2 games (lower body injury).
2006/11/26 Lower body injury, day-to-day.
2006/05/11 Missed Game 3 of Round Two against the Buffalo Sabres (head injury).
2006/05/10 Head injury, day-to-day.
2006/04/08 Missed 2 games (neck injury).
2006/04/05 Neck injury, day-to-day.
2006/03/30 Missed 3 games (slight concussion).
2006/03/22 Slight concussion, day-to-day.
2006/03/21 Concussion, left Tuesday's game.
2005/11/05 Missed 2 games (rib injury).
2005/11/01 Rib injury, day-to-day.

In a recent interview Volchenkov said he prefers to stay in the Eastern Conference:
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As a defenseman in the Eastern Conference, is it tougher to play against the Western Conference opponents?

Hockey is a lot more physical in the Western Conference. And in the East it's a lot about skill and puck movement.

I am not saying that players from the East are a lot more skilled than guys from the West, but the main difference, in my opinion, is that hockey is a lot more physical in the West.

And if you were to leave Ottawa, would you prefer to stay in the East, or move to the West?

I would, to be honest, prefer to stay in the East. I wouldn't want to move too far. Once again, I don't know right now. We will have to assess the situation when it arises.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...urn=nhl,236997

The salary numbers being tossed about are $5 - 6 million per on a multi -year deal - I cannot see that interesting Gillis.

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The rumour is Bernier and the 4th, but the rumour is a garbage most likely. Why would they wait until the draft to make such a trade, why not make it right now if it's available?
If I was Ottawa I'd want to wait to see if i could get anything better, but not so long as to have to wait a year to use the pick.

This makes sense from both teams perspectives. I would have liked Hamhuis better.......

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Trust me, you want Volchenkov. Hes a defensive as u can get.

Im gonna miss him in Ottawa, hes worth 5milish but sens dont got the room. =(

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If I was Ottawa I'd want to wait to see if i could get anything better, but not so long as to have to wait a year to use the pick.

This makes sense from both teams perspectives. I would have liked Hamhuis better.......
I guess it makes sense if the pick isn't conditional. But I really can't see Gillis outright moving a pick, without any conditions, for any players' rights

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***** Yeah! This is arguably the best defensive defenceman in the league. There is no one in the league that can block shots and hit at a consistent pace like Volchenkov. In the playoffs, he blocked 32 shots in 6 games; that is an insane pace.

If true, this is like killing two birds with one stone-- acquiring a true defensive stalwart and getting rid of excess garbage(Bernier)

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I love when all these random sources start popping up. (nothing against OP)

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