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06-26-2010, 02:43 PM
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Karlsson traded to CGY for 2010 6th rounder

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Sharks trade goaltender Henrik Karlsson to Calgary for their sixth round pick (163rd overall) in 2010.

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Great now he's going to turn into the next Kiprusoff.

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Wise move.... who wants a huge, shot-blocking goaltender anyway?

oh wait.......

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Great now he's going to turn into the next Kiprusoff.
Since he alraedy signed in the KHL, it's entirely possible he's going to not come back from Europe.

and the pick was used on D Konrad Abeltshauser from Halifax (QMJHL)

The only other CHL-trained German that was in the draft rankings this year (aside from Grubauer). Max I know was really high on him.

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6th rounder for a goalie that's in the khl, not bad.

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Watched Abeltshauser all season...

He had an up and down season. I know when he played for Germnay at the U17 he was dominant and was spoken of as the best 1992 dman in the tournement which is fairly high praise.

He got injured twice in the early going in Halifax. He was hit by a team mate during pre-season and suffered a cut face and concussion. He also hurt his leg falling awkwardly into the net after chasing a player who was on a breakaway.

These two setbacks hurt him because he was 17, in a new country, trying to adjust and as he would take 1 step forward, these injuries caused him to take 2 steps back.

As a player, he has size, but doesnt use it, but i wouldnt call him soft. He needs to work on his explosiveness and acceleration. He has very good hockey sense and a great stick. He played PK and PP for Halifax and averaged about 25 minutes a game on a young team. His +/- stats are hurting, he went through a stretch of 7 games where he was a -14 but he wasnt playing poorly, just playing on a young team and logging a lot of minutes.

It is a great pick at this stage, a project but he has big upside.

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perfect, we love players with great size that don't use it.

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perfect, we love players with great size that don't use it.
Just because you have size...does it mean you have to use it? Does Nik Lidstrom use his size? Does he lean on people? No.

Konrad is 6'03 205...he is big...but he doesnt use it. That isnt always a bad thing. He has one of the best sticks ive seen...

Playing defense...you dont always have to blast guys through the boards. Hockey sense, positioning and a good stick. Its more efficient and to be honest I prefer smart defensemen, rather than ones that run around trying to blast everyone.

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Just because you have size...does it mean you have to use it? Does Nik Lidstrom use his size? Does he lean on people? No.

Konrad is 6'03 205...he is big...but he doesnt use it. That isnt always a bad thing. He has one of the best sticks ive seen...

Playing defense...you dont always have to blast guys through the boards. Hockey sense, positioning and a good stick. Its more efficient and to be honest I prefer smart defensemen, rather than ones that run around trying to blast everyone.
This man speaks the truth, couldn't agree more with you.

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Just because you have size...does it mean you have to use it? Does Nik Lidstrom use his size? Does he lean on people? No.

Konrad is 6'03 205...he is big...but he doesnt use it. That isnt always a bad thing. He has one of the best sticks ive seen...

Playing defense...you dont always have to blast guys through the boards. Hockey sense, positioning and a good stick. Its more efficient and to be honest I prefer smart defensemen, rather than ones that run around trying to blast everyone.
this is all true BUT its a willingness to use his size that matters. If he doesnt have to thats great, but avoiding it when the need arises is an issue (see vlasic). Its not about using his size so much as not playing soft.

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this is all true BUT its a willingness to use his size that matters. If he doesnt have to thats great, but avoiding it when the need arises is an issue (see vlasic). Its not about using his size so much as not playing soft.
Konrad takes hits to make plays, he does finish his hits and he is physical enough.

I guess what I meant by 'doesn't use his size' was that hes a big guy, and some folks expect big guys to be extra physical.

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another case of DW taking nothing and generating a player out if it. Karlsson was signed as a UFA and we end up with a pick for him.

So he must have decided to play in the KHL next season -or- the sharks where not impressed with him last month when he was in town. I'm guessing he wanted some guarantees about a NHL starting/back up position which DW would not provide.
He probaly won't want to play in the AHL...

Interested that the Flames (Suter) end up with another sharks goalie prospect. seriously, they must not even scout goalies, they just get them from us. We're kind of their scouting and development system for the flames...

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http://www.torontosun.com/sports/hoc.../14531146.html

Guess that KHL deal had an "out" clause. With almost a guarantee of backing up Kipper next season, Karlsson is planning on heading to Calgary when camp starts.

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This will be the day we'll remembers the Sharks traded their all time leading goalie to Philly for a low 7th rounder, and Karlsson who hasn't ever played in the NHL gets traded for a high 6th rounder. I know - Nabby is a UFA and we're lucky to get anything... still .. something seems incongruous in the two moves.

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This will be the day we'll remembers the Sharks traded their all time leading goalie to Philly for a low 7th rounder, and Karlsson who hasn't ever played in the NHL gets traded for a high 6th rounder. I know - Nabby is a UFA and we're lucky to get anything... still .. something seems incongruous in the two moves.
And yet if neither of them were in our plans, I applaud Wilson for getting something for nothing.

Wilson told everyone Nabby wasn't coming back. Fair play if he can get something for nothing.

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Signing with the Dinamo Riga earlier this month, Karlsson's entry-level NHL contract inked with the Sharks last year would take precedence assuming he indeed becomes the Flames backup
Assuming he's still under that contract, which I presume he isn't because he is listed as an RFA by the NHL.

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Assuming he's still under that contract, which I presume he isn't because he is listed as an RFA by the NHL.
Guessing his KHL deal has an out. Plus Flames just need to QO him to retain his rights.

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Guessing his KHL deal has an out. Plus Flames just need to QO him to retain his rights.
How many players have signed NHL contracts and played in the NHL after signing valid KHL contracts for that season? And qualifying a player with a signed, valid contract to play in the KHL for the upcoming season is virtually meaningless outside of generating paperwork that keeps a player's NHL rights.

Now obviously the folks in Calgary have all the information they felt they needed to go ahead and make the trade, but at least on the surface this appears to be a deal for future seasons and not for 10-11.

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Or was a KHL deal negotiated only, so he's free to sign with NHL team?


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Since he alraedy signed in the KHL, it's entirely possible he's going to not come back from Europe.

and the pick was used on D Konrad Abeltshauser from Halifax (QMJHL)

The only other CHL-trained German that was in the draft rankings this year (aside from Grubauer). Max I know was really high on him.
Nope, Karlsson had a clause in his contract with his KHL team who allow him to leave for NHL before the season, so yeah he will be #2 in Calgary... wait wasn't it San Jose who where looking for a good goalie? Karlsson was one of the best goalie in SEL, BTW.....

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Nope, Karlsson had a clause in his contract with his KHL team who allow him to leave for NHL before the season, so yeah he will be #2 in Calgary... wait wasn't it San Jose who where looking for a good goalie? Karlsson was one of the best goalie in SEL, BTW.....
Due respect to Karlsson but being a back up to one of the best goalies in the league is entirely different from platooning a No.1 job with an equally inexperienced young player.

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Due respect to Karlsson but being a back up to one of the best goalies in the league is entirely different from platooning a No.1 job with an equally inexperienced young player.
Sincerely, Karlsson looks better than Greiss, i'm just sayin if you go with Greiss as #1 i'd rather see Karlsson have a shot, not a big bet anyway.

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