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06-25-2010, 10:25 AM
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What does Boston do if Oil Drafts Hall?

Do they keep Hall and trade one of Savard, Bergeron or, Krejic?

Do they Trade down in the draft?

Do they draft Comnnelly?


I am curious as to what will happen if this is the case. Thoughts?

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06-25-2010, 10:26 AM
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They are taking Seguin.

Chia during a tsn interview yesterday "We're keeping the pick and taking one of those two forwards"

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06-25-2010, 10:30 AM
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They are taking Seguin.

Chia during a tsn interview yesterday "We're keeping the pick and taking one of those two forwards"
this. they arent gonna pass the opportunity up.

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06-25-2010, 10:30 AM
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BPA and that'd be Seguin.

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Where is the idea that Seguin is taking away a top 3 centreman's job immediately coming from?

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Where is the idea that Seguin is taking away a top 3 centreman's job immediately coming from?
oh you didn't hear? First round draft picks always pan out in the nhl and take first line jobs immediately.

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oh you didn't hear? First round draft picks always pan out in the nhl and take first line jobs immediately.
That notion spawned a whole bunch of Savard trade proposals.

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That notion spawned a whole bunch of Savard trade proposals.
ridiculous Savard trade proposals

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Umm about 100% they would take Seguin. There is no debate here.

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Do they keep Hall and trade one of Savard, Bergeron or, Krejic?

Do they Trade down in the draft?

Do they draft Comnnelly?


I am curious as to what will happen if this is the case. Thoughts?
Do they keep Hall? they can't edmonton took him

i'm gunna throw you an offspeed slider, lets see if you can get a bat on this one!!

what if the oil draft Seguin? what happens then?

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ummm...draft seguin maybe??

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If PC is smart (and lately I'm beginning to think that he is), he does something like this;

Florida:
2nd

Boston:
3rd + prospect (someone like Jenks or Robak)

*Florida drafts Seguin*

Columbus:
3rd

Boston:
4th + prospect (someone like Calvert or Savard)

*Columbus drafts Fowler*

With the 4th overall pick Boston selects: Erik Gudbranson

Trading Savard just after signing him is kind of a dick move. Keep him, have Bergeron as #2, Krejci as #3, Colborne in the pipeline, add your stud D and a few decent prospects.

That is how babies are made.

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This reminds me of last year with Tavares and Hedman.

Hall goes first .

What is with the Bruins lately signing guys to long term contracts (Savard and Thomas) with NMC and then asking them about trades within no time?
Bad planning?
Can't be good for player/management relations?

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06-25-2010, 11:14 AM
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If PC is smart (and lately I'm beginning to think that he is), he does something like this;

Florida:
2nd

Boston:
3rd + prospect (someone like Jenks or Robak)

*Florida drafts Seguin*

Columbus:
3rd

Boston:
4th + prospect (someone like Calvert or Savard)

*Columbus drafts Fowler*

With the 4th overall pick Boston selects: Erik Gudbranson

Trading Savard just after signing him is kind of a dick move. Keep him, have Bergeron as #2, Krejci as #3, Colborne in the pipeline, add your stud D and a few decent prospects.

That is how babies are made.
I'm glad you're not our GM.

Babies are made by drafting franchise players.

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06-25-2010, 11:29 AM
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No question Sequin is a better fit in Edmonton and Hall in Boston.

The two teams are talking trade with Boston moving up to #1 to get Hall.

The fact that Edmonton would be willing to listen and talk about that option tells that Edmonton might actually want Sequin and take him first overall..

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I'm glad you're not our GM.

Babies are made by drafting franchise players.
I politely disagree. I didn't realize that only the top two selections in the draft were franchise players. It's very likely that one of the big three D men are franchise D-men.

And for a team that already has three franchise players (Savard, Chara and Rask), it's not franchise players alone that will take you to the top; its depth.

Look at the team that won the cup this year as an example. Toews, Kane and Keith were huge, but in that final round it was their depth, that was superior to Philly's depth, that won it for them.

Top end talent alone isn't enough; its the combination of top-end talent and depth that builds winners.

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oh you didn't hear? First round draft picks always pan out in the nhl and take first line jobs immediately.
especially when they fail to make the WJC squad.

he's obviously ready.

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Take Seguin, worry about the rest later.

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especially when they fail to make the WJC squad.

he's obviously ready.
Duchene didn't make the WJC squad in his draft year and just put together a very good rookie campaign. From what I can tell, the WJC team could have used a talent like Seguin.

Seguin will most likely play on Bergeron's or Krejci's wing.

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06-25-2010, 11:37 AM
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No question Sequin is a better fit in Edmonton and Hall in Boston.
I don't see it that way. Edmonton is weak up the middle. If I were Tambellini and it's only coming down to position played, I'm taking Seguin. Neither Hemsky nor Gagner are great all-around centremen.

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I don't see it that way. Edmonton is weak up the middle. If I were Tambellini and it's only coming down to position played, I'm taking Seguin. Neither Hemsky nor Gagner are great all-around centremen.
Did you not just contradict yourself

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Don't get me wrong Kessel is a stud and a fav of mine even when he was on the Bruins but hey it's friday, just another reason to get obscenely drunk tn.

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I politely disagree. I didn't realize that only the top two selections in the draft were franchise players. It's very likely that one of the big three D men are franchise D-men.

And for a team that already has three franchise players (Savard, Chara and Rask), it's not franchise players alone that will take you to the top; its depth.

Look at the team that won the cup this year as an example. Toews, Kane and Keith were huge, but in that final round it was their depth, that was superior to Philly's depth, that won it for them.

Top end talent alone isn't enough; its the combination of top-end talent and depth that builds winners.
First of all, everyone and their mother knows Hall and Seguin are projected to be better than everyone else.

Second, Chicago has three elite players, Kane, Toews, and Keith. Boston has one elite player, and thats Chara, bad comparison to make, for Seguin is projected to be elite.

We were last in scoring last year, as you TOR fans like to point out all the time. You're telling me we should take a D man to improve our "depth" and get more assets, rather than drafting the 1A forward available in the draft?

I know this is a leafs board so I'm trying to to be respectful, but I think you're very wrong and I'm pretty sure a lot of leafs fans would agree with me.

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06-25-2010, 11:42 AM
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Did you not just contradict yourself
I think Edmonton is weak up the middle and should take a centreman - i.e. Seguin.

I now realise I misread Mess' post.

Good catch.

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First of all, everyone and their mother knows Hall and Seguin are projected to be better than everyone else.

Second, Chicago has three elite players, Kane, Toews, and Keith. Boston has one elite player, and thats Chara, bad comparison to make, for Seguin is projected to be elite.

We were last in scoring last year, as you TOR fans like to point out all the time. You're telling me we should take a D man to improve our "depth" and get more assets, rather than drafting the 1A forward available in the draft?

I know this is a leafs board so I'm trying to to be respectful, but I think you're very wrong and I'm pretty sure a lot of leafs fans would agree with me.
Well if you dont take Hall or Seguin, I breathe a huge sigh of relief and think we won the Kessel trade depending on next years pick.

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