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2010 Dallas Stars Draft Pick Scouting Reports

Did this last year so just post any scouting reports you find, and I'll keep them all together in the first 3 posts.

With the 11th overall pick, the Dallas Stars select, from the U.S. N.T.D.P., goaltender Jack Campbell

Mark Stepneski Profile on Jack Campbell

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vital Info
Born: January 9, 1991 in Port Huron, Michigan
Height/Weight: 6-3/175 pounds
Position: Goaltender
Catches: Left
2009-10 Team: USA U-18 (USHL)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rankings
Central Scouting Final Ranking: 2nd among North American Goaltenders
International Scouting Services: 1st among Goaltenders
The Hockey News: 13th Overall
Red Line Report: 10th Overall
TSN: 9th Overall
McKeen's Hockey: 3rd Overall
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2009-10
Played for the USA U-18 team in the USHL, posting a 6-3-1 record, 2.54 goals against average and .917 save percentage. Had a 2-0-1 record, 2.54 goals against average and .923 save percentage in helping the USA win gold at the 2010 World Junior Championship. Was the winning goalie in the gold medal game, an overtime victory against Canada. Posted 0.83 goals against average and .965 save percentage in leading the USA to a gold medal at the 2010 U-18 World Championship. Was named the tournament's outstanding goaltender.
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Originally Posted by Background
Is expected to play for Windsor (OHL) in 2010-11. Posted a 4-0-0 record, 0.75 goals against average and .967 save percentage in helping lead USA to gold medal at 2009 U-18 World Championship. Did not allow an even strength goal in four games. Posted a 20-6-0 record, 2.17 goals against average and .916 save percentage with USA U-17 team in 2008-09.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Al Jensen, NHL Central Scouting
"He's got good size, doesn't beat himself and his positioning is very good. He has good quickness in recovery, but he's not all over the place. He'll make the saves."
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Line Report 2010 Draft Guide
"All he does is continue to win every big game he's a part of - and at Red Line, we consider that the only true measuring stick of greatness in a goalie. ... Constantly calm, steady presence between the pipes. Never flustered by traffic. Answers the call every time his team needs a a key save at a crucial moment. Excellent intangibles: gives teammates confidence and they play well in front of him."
Quote:
Originally Posted by International Scouting Services 2010 NHL Draft Guide
"Campbell has proven to be one of the best goaltending prospects to come out of the US in years. Campbell's poise and athleticism make him an extremely appealing option between the pipes. Campbell has excelled in high exposure international tournaments including an absolutely dominant performance at this year’s U18 World
Champions in Minsk, Belarus where he was the runaway choice for top goaltender and could have been considered the MVP of the tournament. Campbell is a future top goaltender in the NHL."
Quote:
Originally Posted by McKeen's 2010 NHL Draft Guide
"Campbell has remarkable mental composure and saves his best performance in pressure-filled games when there are titles on the line. He is highly athletic as he is quick with his lower body, glove and blocker. His ability to stay with plays, recover and minimize his rebounds helps round out his skill set. The butterfly goalie possesses the size that NHL teams covet, standing over 6'3" and he uses his size to fill the net. He plays with quiet confidence that translates in his cool, calm demeanor."
http://www.andrewsstarspage.com/inde...pbell_profile/

Kyle Woodlief on Jack Campbell

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Line Report
The clear-cut No. 1 guy here is Jack Campbell, who combines good athleticism and a calm demeanor with the most important bottom line quality any goalie can possess: the ability to win the big games. It might be an intangible, but in the past 14 months, Campbell has been the netminder on the winning end of the World Under-18 Championships (twice) and the World Junior Championships, a feat so rare for a 17-year-old netminder that at Red Line, we don't ever remember it happening before.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hocke...rospects_N.htm

Quotes from the Dallas Organization

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Nieuwendyk
"Our guys have loved this guy from the start and we just said if he was available at No. 11, we couldn't let him go," GM Joe Nieuwendyk said. "We viewed this that after Taylor Hall and Tyler Seguin, Jack Campbell had the next best chance to be a franchise player."
http://www.defendingbigd.com/2010/6/...0-dallas-stars

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Valley
Stars goal coach Mike Valley can't wait to work with Jack Campbell more often. Valley worked with Campbell for three days last summer and kept in contact with him for much of the last season. Here are Valley's thoughts on Campbell as he breaks down the type of player he is on the ice:

"He’s very composed, extremely quick and good on his feet," Valley said. "He can get from A to B and have proper positioning. He reads the play really, really well. He’s far beyond his years when it comes to that. The things he needs to work on is, much like all the young goaltenders, is utilizing his size, not overplaying situations. He’s really acrobatic, but sometimes it’s about controlling yourself and not overplaying situations. You want to always put yourself in a position to make that second and third save. He has that ability, but that's an area we're going to be working on a lot."

Valley couldn't stop talking about Campbell's work ethic. It's a big reason that scouts are convinced he is going to be such a solid goalie.

"He’s one of those kids that comes along once in a while that's a great person to have in your organization and will go through the wall to do whatever he can to make sure he develops and lives up to expectations," Valley said. "In my mind, from the goaltenders that I've worked with at his age, he’s at the top with his work ethic.

"Anybody that’s talked to him and seen him understands he's really special. He is such a mature kid for his age. Our scouts earlier said they would take the best player available, no matter what. That's what they did."
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With the 41st overall pick, the Dallas Stars select, from AIK in Sweden, defenseman Patrik Nemeth


Quote:
Originally Posted by Vital Info from Eliteprospects.com
Birthyear: 1992-02-08
Birthplace: Stockholm, SWE
Age: 18
Shoots: L
Height: 192 cm / 6'3"
Weight: 96 kg / 212 lbs
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Originally Posted by Elite Prospects
A big, strong, physical and mean stay-at-home defenseman. There is nothing fancy about Nemeth's offensive game and there are players out there with far better hockey sense and passing ability (although Nemeth's first pass is pretty good), but he is a very valuable player with his determined and tight defensive play. Has good timing in his hits and is quite mobile considering his large frame.
http://eliteprospects.com/player.php...=10383&lang=en

Quote:
Originally Posted by International Scouting Services
One of, if not the most improved player in Sweden between this year and last! Nemeth has really gained a level of comfort in his big body and has learned how to use it to his advantage. Punishing, Nemeth can dish out contact and receive it just as well and very rarely gives up his position. He can manhandle most players to the outside and can be a very intimidating player around his own crease while managing to stay within the rules. Nemeth makes good decisions on both sides of the puck even when under heavy pressure. He is consistent, disciplined and reliable and can lead the rush or hang back and support if needed.
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/stars...-patrik-nemeth

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stars Director of European Scouting Kari Takko
"Nemeth is a good skating defenseman. He is good on the puck and a big guy on the back end."
Quote:
Originally Posted by European Scout Rickard Oquist
"He's a good skater for his size. He brings leadership to his club. Nemeth brings a physical edge and is a solid defensive player."
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hockey News
Split his time between the Allsvenskan and the under-20 league for AIK in 2009-10, totaling 22 assists and 23 points in 54 games... also performed admirably for Team Sweden at the 2010 IIHF World U18 Championship, producing two assists, a plus-7 rating and eight penalty minutes in six games... was rated 11th among European skaters in Central Scouting's final rankings... displays good all-around skills and projectable size but his skating needs work...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Line Report
Huge beast is a dominating physical presence. ... He’s very raw, but there’s a lot to like: great size/strength, skates well forward with and without the puck, and has tremendous tools. He’s a long way from putting it together. ... A work in progress but tempting.
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/stars...ghts-on-nemeth

Quote:
Originally Posted by Les Jackson
"He's a good two-way guy. I think his strength is without the puck, but he's a good first pass. He manages the blue line well offensively. He needs some work, but he has a good foundation."
Quote:
Originally Posted by Future Considerations
"A big physical defensive defenseman who plays a tight defensive game. Has great mobility and moves with strong balance and agility. Seems to really love the physical aspect and making opponents pay a price for venturing into dirty areas around the net and in the corners. Lacks offensive upside or creativity."
http://www.andrewsstarspage.com/inde...ve_on_day_two/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrik Nemeth
A very interesting choice. It was the team I wanted to go to because I have had very good talk with their mental coach when I was there. We spoke for two and a half hours! And had a great talk. After that, I have heard that they were really interested so it was that time I was hoping for.
Quote:
Marie Hallman: "And a nice place you'll go to the contract would be too. With sunshine and warm weather during the day and hockey in the evenings. Excellent course!"

Patrik Nemeth: "Yes, I just may buy a cowboy hat and boots as well, heh, heh, "says Patrik Nemeth with a smile and twinkle in his eye.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrik Nemeth
Yeah, it'll be a blast to ride on a turn and see what they have to offer. But then also, I have two-year contract with AIK and it's down for me right now. And let them know (Dallas), so there is probably no problem with it. It is, AIK, which I focused on. Draft I see the most as an expression of interest. It may well be a bit overrated sometimes. Some take it so damn seriously, but I'm more focused on the here and now and thus the AIK. But it is clear that it's really fun that they want me so early.
http://marieshockeyblogg.blogspot.co...t-val-det.html

With the 77th overall pick, the Dallas Stars select, from Orangeville of the CCHL, forward Alexander Guptill


Quote:
Originally Posted by Vital Info
Born: March 5, 1992 in Burlington, Ontario
Height/Weight: 6-13/175 pounds
Position: Left wing
Shoots: Left
2009-10 Team: Orangeville (CCHL)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rankings
Central Scouting Final Ranking: 99th among North American Skaters
International Scouting Services: 164th overall
The Hockey News: Not Ranked
Red Line Report: 159th Overall
TSN: Not Ranked
McKeen's Hockey: Not Ranked
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2009-10
Played for both Brampton and Orangeville in the Central Canadian Hockey League, registering 19 goals and 18 assists in 29 games. Missed time during the season due to a broken wrist. Had one assist in two playoff games with Orangeville.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Background
Registered 64 points in 49 games with Brampton of the CCHL in 2008-09. Has been drafted by Waterloo of the USHL and is expected to attend Michigan beginning in 2011.
http://www.andrewsstarspage.com/inde...ve_on_day_two/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Johnston, Stars amateur scout
"Guptill is big and strong, one of the most talented guys that comes out of tier two. He has good hands. He's going to the University of Michigan. Alex really does not lack anything, he just needs to continue to play games. He was injured a bit last year."
Update: The injury was a broken wrist at the beginning of the season. That explans why he played in just 29 games (but still had 19 goals).

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim Bernhardt
"He is a big winger with a lot of natural skill. He is a young guy and needs some time to develop but he will get that time at Michigan."
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/stars...hts-on-guptill

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim Bernhardt
"He's a very skilled guy. From what we could see he's got all the tools. He's still got some room to fill out and we think he will and will end up close to 200 pounds. He's got a long, fluid stride. He just kept getting better from the start of the year. He's going to Michigan University, so he's got a good development program ahead of him."
Quote:
Originally Posted by Les Jackson
"He's a big guy that has a real good foundation of skating, skill, offensive touch. This kid is an impressive young player."
Quote:
Originally Posted by David Burstyn, McKeen's Hockey
"He brings a lot of speed to his game and is dynamic with the puck when he has room .. he tends to operate too much on the perimeter and does not force plays up the middle or drive wide to the goal .. at this point, he relies more on his first-step quickness and offensive instincts to get into position to exercise his hair-trigger release. ... Guptill has a great second and third gear, however he does not commit himself to the defensive zone .. physically he is rather slender, at 6-foot-2, he offers good height but there is not much to his frame, therefore he does not initiate many hits and if he does he rarely dislodges a player off the puck .. Guptill is a natural finisher who relies heavily on others to get him the puck .. his speed allows him to get behind defenders and creates many of his opportunities .. his game should mature under coach Berenson, as he will be more accountable for his actions."
Quote:
Originally Posted by International Scouting Services
"Good offensive upside... Nice mix of speed and skill... Very good skater... Good shot, can score... Good size/solid frame... Protects the puck well... Needs to improve defensive game... "
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Line Report
"Jr. A scoring machine is rather one dimensional."
http://www.andrewsstarspage.com/inde...ve_on_day_two/


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With the 109th overall pick, the Dallas Stars select, from Everett of the WHL, defenseman Alex Theriau

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vital Info
Born: February 14, 1992 in Duncan, British Columbia
Height/Weight: 6-2/189 pounds
Position: Defenseman
Shoots: Left
2009-10 Team: Everett (WHL)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rankings
Central Scouting Final Ranking: 77th among North American Skaters
International Scouting Services: 112th Overall
The Hockey News: Not Ranked
Red Line Report: 117th Overall
TSN: Not Ranked
McKeen's Hockey: 111th Overall
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2009-10
Had 24 points and a plus-12 rating in 70 games for Everett of the Western Hockey League. Picked up two assists in seven playoff games. Was named his team's most improved player.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Background
Played for both Lethbridge and Everett in 2008-09, after getting traded to Everett midway through the season He registered 5 points (1 goal, 4 assist) in 55 games playing for both teams.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shane Churla, scout
“He’s a puck-moving defenseman. He is an excellent first-pass defenseman. He has great mobility, which is probably his best asset. He has the potential to be a very good two-way defenseman.”
Quote:
Originally Posted by Les Jackson
"He's one of the best skaters in the Western League. He can really get to pucks. He's in an ideal situation for growth. He's with Craig Hartsburg, one of the best coaches. His game is based on skating and puck. For the new game he has the attributes that fit. It's just a matter of development and growing."
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim Bernhard
"He's a good skater, he's got pretty good size, makes a good first pass. He's got excellent coaching with Craig Hartsburg for the next two seasons, so we feel he should improve."
Quote:
Originally Posted by International Scouting Services
"His skating ability is above average. To make the step up to the next level, Theriau needs to further develop his physical element to his game. With the movement to the Silvertips last season it looks as though he has found a comfortable home with them. Theriau is a responsible two-way defender with good vision. He makes smart plays when given time to execute. He is a good skater and has good defensive support instincts as well as good anticipation skills. He can be very calculating to his defensive approach which can lead to passive pressure and loose gap control at times. Theriau often stays in the safe areas of the ice and doesn’t take too many risks."
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Line Report's Michael Remmerde
"There's a lot of raw talent here and quite a bit of upside. Very good skater and a lot of puck ability. But I expected a bit more regular offensive production. Okay size, but struggles to be effective physically - but I give him credit for consistently throwing the body around. I probably wouldn't consider him until the 3rd/4th round, and there's a chance he could sneak into the top 75 picks."
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Line Report 2010 Draft Guide
"Raw and has plenty to learn, but with lots of upside
http://www.andrewsstarspage.com/inde...o/3898-2008-09

With the 131st overall pick, the Dallas Stars select, from Frolunda of the SEL, defenseman John Klingberg

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vital Info
Born: August 14, 1992 in Lerum, Sweden
Height/Weight: 6-0/157 pounds
Position: Defenseman
Shoots: Right
2009-10 Team: Frolunda, Jr. (Sweden)
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Originally Posted by 2009-10
Played junior hockey in Sweden for Frolunda, registering 5 points (0 goals, 5 assists) and a plus-8 rating in 27 games. Had 1 assist in 5 playoff games. Registered 11 points (2 goals, 9 assists) in 7 playoff games for Frolunda J18 squad.
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Originally Posted by Background
Played for Frolunda J18 in 2008-09, registering 15 points (3 goals, 12 assists) and a plus-18 rating in 30 games. Brother Carl Klingberg, who plays forward, taken by Atlanta in the 2nd round of the 2009 NHL Draft.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim Bernhard
"He's a slight kid, but our scouts feel he has all kinds of growth left in him. He skates really well and he's a feisty kid."
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kari Takko, Director of European Scouting
"He started to come on at the second half of last year. His attributes are a lot like Philip Larsen's. He needs to fill out a little, but he's a good two-way defenseman."
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rickard Oquist, European scout
"He's a two-way defenseman and he has some bite to his game. He's a good skater, mobile and moves the puck with ease. Big guy that needs some time to fill out."
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Nemeth's combine strengths:

9th in Aerobic Fitness VO2max
3rd in Aerobic Fitness Test Duration
9th in Musculoskeletal Standing Long Jump

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And Nemeth is big, which, if he ever gets to the NHL level, will serve well for the small defensive group the Stars have accumulated over the years.

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About to buy a Nemeth jersey. Any timeline on when he'll be here in CP? 12-13?

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Tough to say. Grossman came over to the AHL after a single post-draft SEL season. 12-13 is probably the safer bet though.

Good job compiling all this stuff BigG.

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About to buy a Nemeth jersey. Any timeline on when he'll be here in CP? 12-13?
ehh unless you have money to burn I'd wait until he's on the roster. 2nd round picks aren't sure bets to make the league by any stretch of the imagination.

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I'm not expecting him to be an allstar. I just like being ahead of the curve I suppose.

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I'm glad you guys picked up Gupper, just celebrated with the big guy at a house party! He looks to be a long-term project that could have very high upside. He used to play with Nieuwendyks nephew in Brampton which is probably why he was so highly regarded by your general manager and thus picked much higher than he was ranked.

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Here's an interesting interview with Patrik Nemeth: http://marieshockeyblogg.blogspot.co...t-val-det.html

I'll pull quotes later, but he does have 2 years remaining on his contract with AIK. Also, I'll need a Swede to answer this, but AIK was listed in the Allsvenskan last year (I can't really think of a good way to describe that league, but my best try would be the AHL if the best AHL teams were given the chance to play their way into the NHL). However, for next season (at least on Nemeth's page on Elite Prospect) AIK is listed in the Elitserien (Sweden's top league).

The Allsvenskan is not a bad league, but Nemeth would face the best competition in the Elitserien. I'm hoping AIK pushed their way back into the Elitserien last season.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrik Nemeth
A very interesting choice. It was the team I wanted to go to because I have had very good talk with their mental coach when I was there. We spoke for two and a half hours! And had a great talk. After that, I have heard that they were really interested so it was that time I was hoping for.
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Marie Hallman: "And a nice place you'll go to the contract would be too. With sunshine and warm weather during the day and hockey in the evenings. Excellent course!"

Patrik Nemeth: "Yes, I just may buy a cowboy hat and boots as well, heh, heh, "says Patrik Nemeth with a smile and twinkle in his eye.
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Yeah, it'll be a blast to ride on a turn and see what they have to offer. But then also, I have two-year contract with AIK and it's down for me right now. And let them know (Dallas), so there is probably no problem with it. It is, AIK, which I focused on. Draft I see the most as an expression of interest. It may well be a bit overrated sometimes. Some take it so damn seriously, but I'm more focused on the here and now and thus the AIK. But it is clear that it's really fun that they want me so early.


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Yes, AIK got promoted and will play in the SEL next year.

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I updated 4th and 5th round picks, but it's only the stuff from Andrew's. I'm going to look around and see if I can find any new info.

Alex Guptill will be on a Toronto webcast called A Foot in the Crease. They typically post audio later so I'll try and find it when they do.

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Yes, AIK got promoted and will play in the SEL next year.
That's great. I saw he spent some time in Allsvenskan last year, do you think he has an opportunity to play the full season in Elitserien with AIK?

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That's great. I saw he spent some time in Allsvenskan last year, do you think he has an opportunity to play the full season in Elitserien with AIK?
Doubt it. He wasn't a regular in Allsvenskan last year so I would be very surprised if he suddenly became a regular in the SEL.
My guess is that he will probably be loaned out to a club in Allsvenskan for the for half of the season, and if he plays good there they could possibly call him back to have him play a couple of games in the SEL.

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Nemeth = Grossman

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Nemeth = Grossman
Well, seeing how Grossman is one of the better stay-at-home defenders in the league, I don't mind having another one...

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Scouting reports would seem to indicate hes more mobile and more physical though?

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Scouting reports would seem to indicate hes more mobile and more physical though?
I saw somewhere that the NHL player he compares his style to is Phaneuf. The Grossman comparison may indeed be more apt, but that's not quite how he sees himself.

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Scouting reports would seem to indicate hes more mobile and more physical though?
Physical, yes. Mobility is probably about the same. Grossman's agility and speed aren't bad at all for his size. Grossman does occasionally get beat wide with speed, but so do most D his size.

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Nemeth = Grossman

Sounds like a nice pairing..

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2 left shots who play the same kind of game? Doesn't sound like a good pairing to me.

Here's Theriau, who was apparently the only other guy actually in LA:


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I've been watching Phillips and Volchenkov for years, it can work

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http://afootinthecrease.com/index.php?post_id=627517

Webcast interview with Alex Guptill (about 47 minutes in). The only real news is that he will attend the prospect camp this week.

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Physical, yes. Mobility is probably about the same. Grossman's agility and speed aren't bad at all for his size. Grossman does occasionally get beat wide with speed, but so do most D his size.
I agree with that. Grossman is not immobile at all. I think his lack of aggressiveness makes him look slower at times because he doesn't use the skating to attack. I do hope he can develop a mean streak because when he plays with that edge he is very very good. A left side defense that consists of Grossman Fistric Nemeth could make things pretty scary for opposing forwards.

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http://afootinthecrease.com/index.php?post_id=627517

Webcast interview with Alex Guptill (about 47 minutes in). The only real news is that he will attend the prospect camp this week.
Thanks for the link. It looks like they also interviewed him a couple weeks before the draft:

http://afootinthecrease.com/index.php?post_id=621875

Also a good hilight video of him here: http://vimeo.com/8263696


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