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Which goalie free agent do you want?

View Poll Results: Which goaltender?
Evgeni Nabokov 41 36.28%
Dan Ellis 17 15.04%
Martin Biron 4 3.54%
Chris Mason 18 15.93%
Antero Niittymaki 4 3.54%
Jose Theodore 2 1.77%
Marty Turco 19 16.81%
Michael Leighton 5 4.42%
Other (specify) 3 2.65%
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06-27-2010, 03:00 PM
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Which goalie free agent do you want?

Since it appears as though Nabby won't be signed before the market opens on the first, we have plenty of options.

First, I'd like to applaud Holmgren for not overpaying for either Hamhuis or Nabokov, but now we have to find a goalie. Trades are pretty much out of the question at this point both because of our lack of "moveable/losable" assets and because there's not much immediate starter quality available in terms of a trade.

So, considering expected asking price, who do you want?

If you could, please respond to this question:

Would you be willing to wait until the bottom of the barrel to get the cheapest possible goaltender?

League-wide Current Starters (Bold denotes possible free-agent destination. Italics denote slight possibility at free-agent destination.)
Anaheim Ducks: Hiller
Atlanta Thrashers: Pavelec
Boston Bruins: Rask/Thomas
Buffalo Sabres: Miller
Calgary Flames: Kiprusoff
Carolina Pathers: Ward
Chicago Blackhawks: Niemi/Huet
Colorado Avalanche: Anderson
Columbus Blue Jackets: S. Mason
Dallas Stars: Lehtonen
Detroit Red Wings: Howard/Osgood
Edmonton Oilers: Khabibulin
Florida Panthers: Vokoun
Los Angeles Kings: Quick/Bernier
Minnesota Wild: N. Backstrom
Montreal Canadiens: Price
Nashville Predators: Rinne
New Jersey Devils: Brodeur
New York Islanders: Roloson/DiPietro
New York Rangers: Lundqvist
Ottawa Senators: Leclaire
Philadelphia Flyers: Boucher
Phoenix Coyotes: Bryzgalov
Pittsburgh Penguins: Fleury
San Jose Sharks: Greiss
St. Louis Blues: Halak
Tampa Bay Lightning: Smith
Toronto Maple Leafs: Giguere/Gustavsson
Vancouver Canucks: Luongo
Washington Capitals: Varlamov

UFA Available Goaltenders
Marty Turco
Evgeni Nabokov
Jose Theodore
Vesa Toskala
Chris Mason
Dan Ellis
Ray Emery
Martin Biron
Peter Budaj
Johan Hedberg
Patrick Lalime
Stephen Valiquette
Joey MacDonald
Wade Dubielewicz
Antero Niittymaki
Dany Sabourin
Curtis Sanford
Matt Climie
Brent Johnson
Mike Brodeur
Alex Auld
Sebastian Caron
Yann Danis
Manny Legace
Andrew Raycroft
Michael Leighton

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I'm reasonably comfortable with a 2-year deal to any one of Mason, Ellis, and Turco.

What I would like Holmgren to do is not be afraid to slow play the market (which he for whatever reason seems incapable of doing). I think I'd prefer Mason of that group above, but I'm not sure there's a ton to differentiate (people seem to think SJ is going to go after Turco). So, make a "good contract" (for us) offer on July 1st whomever you want the most... if they jump great, if not... wait and see what shakes out. None of these guys is likely to solve the goaltending position for the next decade, so no need to be too stressed out about this.

I don't get the pursuit of Nabokov at this stage in this market... if he wants to play in the NHL, his contract demands have very little leverage. If he wants to maximize money and the KHL comes to him, we can't compete with that.

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C. Mason because he played well on a bad team (Blues). Also he would not be a heavy cap hit like Nabokov. Also I think you did your list wrong, Boucher, Niemi and Lehtonen are not free agents.

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I have wanted Turco since I found out Emery was hurt for good. Wouldn't mind Nabby if the price is right. Theodore as well (I think he could be a bargain).

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I have wanted Turco since I found out Emery was hurt for good. Wouldn't mind Nabby if the price is right. Theodore as well (I think he could be a bargain).
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Also I think you did your list wrong, Boucher, Niemi and Lehtonen are not free agents.
Huh?

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i voted biron w/ the hopes of signing volchenkov, michalek, or even hamhuis. i think we would look stellar playing behind that group of blue line monsters. under a more realistic scenario w/ 4 top 4 d-men, i'd like to see nabby, if he can be had for 4.5 or less. if not, mason, turco, ellis are all fine... who ever wants to play for cheap.

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[QUOTE=Chris Shafer;26565553]

League-wide Current Starters (Bold denotes possible free-agent destination. Italics denote slight possibility at free-agent destination.)

I don't understand what you mean here.

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I don't understand what you mean here.
They're the current starters (RFAs included) on their respective teams. Basically, not including UFAs.

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Nabby for me, mainly because it's what we've been looking for. Having a real proven top 4 defensemen and a real top 10 starter would make us extremely formidable.

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Ill take anyone not named Leighton, Boucher, or Biron.

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Voted for Nabby, but it completely hinges upon how much he'll take to get signed. I don't want to see Holmgren spend 5M on anyone and ruin our flexibility down the road.

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i want Nabby and Leights

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I would rather Turco than Nabokov honestly

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i cant vote in this poll again (not sure why)

but if i could i'd put the plug in for Leighton..

he deserves the chance to start a fresh season, then everyone can judge him...

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In terms of bang for the buck, I think Mason is the best choice, and I wouldn't mind Leighton as #2, then Turco, then Biron. I don't list Nabokov, as I don't see getting him for a reasonable salary.

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I like Mason on a three year deal if he'll sign cheap enough. I think that gives the organization a lot of time to see what they've really got on their hands as far as goal tending prospects go. If they don't end up having any players in the works, then they can readdress at that point.

If not, what the hell two years is almost as good.

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i cant vote in this poll again (not sure why)

but if i could i'd put the plug in for Leighton..

he deserves the chance to start a fresh season, then everyone can judge him...
I think it might be something about your post count not being high enough. I think if you're a member long enough then it doesn't matter what your post count is though.

Is that true guys?

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Nabokov followed by Turco.
the rest of em fall into the Biron category.
Just would like to add while I do want Nabokov I dont want to give him a stupid deal .ie 5 years 6 million per. If he wants that kind of deal, I would take Turco.
Like I said before, I am not sold on Mason or Ellis being the answer in Philly.

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Like I said before, I am not sold on Mason or Ellis being the answer in Philly.
Beside Nabakov, about whom many of us hold significant reservations, I don't think there are any surefire answers for the Flyers. However, this team has the benefit of not needing a top 10 keeper to excel.

What I'd truly like Holmgren to do around July 1 is to strike a deal-in-principle with Phoenix that if they are out of it by Feb 1, there are 2-3 preset player/prospect/pick combinations in place for Bryzgalov, who as we know will be a UFA at the end of next season. Beat the trading frenzy and grab an impending FA to finish out the season / playoffs, plus start talking extension right away.

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What I'd truly like Holmgren to do around July 1 is to strike a deal-in-principle with Phoenix that if they are out of it by Feb 1, there are 2-3 preset player/prospect/pick combinations in place for Bryzgalov, who as we know will be a UFA at the end of next season. Beat the trading frenzy and grab an impending FA to finish out the season / playoffs, plus start talking extension right away.
Wow. Definitely not.

I'm not so sure why everyone's so obsessed with Bryzgalov.

I assure you that he is not deserving of your obsession. I'd say 99% of goaltenders do not deserve as much praise as he seems to be getting lately. The ones that do are either in the HHOF or will be there shortly.

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I'm a big Ellis cheerleader because of his age, attitude, likely cap hit, and the fact that when one of the 3 prospects is ready to start he won't be a knob about it.

In order of preference for the 8 listed(all things considered, not just "who is the best")

Ellis
Mason
Turco
Leighton
Biron
Nabakov
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Beside Nabakov, about whom many of us hold significant reservations, I don't think there are any surefire answers for the Flyers. However, this team has the benefit of not needing a top 10 keeper to excel.

What I'd truly like Holmgren to do around July 1 is to strike a deal-in-principle with Phoenix that if they are out of it by Feb 1, there are 2-3 preset player/prospect/pick combinations in place for Bryzgalov, who as we know will be a UFA at the end of next season. Beat the trading frenzy and grab an impending FA to finish out the season / playoffs, plus start talking extension right away.
I wouldn't be surprised if Bryz signed a nice extension before Febuary ever rolled around. He is Phoenix's closest thing to a franchise player.

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Wow. Definitely not.

I'm not so sure why everyone's so obsessed with Bryzgalov.

I assure you that he is not deserving of your obsession. I'd say 99% of goaltenders do not deserve as much praise as he seems to be getting lately. The ones that do are either in the HHOF or will be there shortly.
It is one thing to say that people over rate the need to have an elite goalie to win. It is another thing entirely to refuse to acknowledge the efforts of a goalie who's team relied heavily on him, and had him answer the call all year.

Bryzgalov had a really fantastic year. No offense, but you shouldn't discount his performance just because you have an anti-goalie boner.


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