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06-29-2010, 11:05 AM
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With Doug at the wheel anyone and everyone is an option I would have to say some one like Smith, Toskala, Ellis, Mason, Turdo, Emery, Auld. So create a wheel put 15-20 names on it, spin, then throw darts. That's how Doug does it....
I get you're all angry and emo, but Ray Emery has a career ending injury and will be lucky to lead a normal life.

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06-29-2010, 12:00 PM
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I'd like Ellis but there has been no talk about DW's interest in him.

Turco @ $2.9mil it is... *sigh*

I hope to God it is not Leighton though.
I know that for many of us, Turco is not the goalie of choice for this franchise going forward. He's old, and his game has dropped off severely over the past couple of seasons. However, at the very least it will be nice not having to cringe every time Turco goes behind the net to play the puck, unlike Nabokov. Also, I'm a little bit excited to see what the Sharks will look like with a puck-moving goaltender...will they play a faster run-and-gun style? That would be awesome.

But yeah...boo Turco regardless. Bring in Ellis or something.

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06-29-2010, 01:35 PM
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I don't think any of us can give the organisation's view on the guy, but I'm rather high on him, he was quite terrific for Tappara in Finland last season.
There were interviews or published quotes where Sateri got the thumbs up. Stalock didn't fare so well in the same context. Just the org viewpoint, not my own. Personally, no opinion on Sateri.

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06-29-2010, 01:45 PM
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I'd like Ellis but there has been no talk about DW's interest in him.

Turco @ $2.9mil it is... *sigh*

I hope to God it is not Leighton though.
i did hear a rumor about leighton to the sharks on espn/tsn i think its the same thing anyways.

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06-29-2010, 03:50 PM
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I think it's going to be interesting all season..
For what's out there, I like Ellis. But I also prefer Leighton to Greiss. Depends on what they do now - if they go cheap and have Greiss as the starter, see what happens with him up until trade deadline. They could rent a goalie for the playoffs...

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With every due respect if we're going to pay out $3m for a goalie, I'd rather us go for Chris Mason than Marty Turco.

He was good for 60 games on a moderate St Louis side last year and threatens to get crowded out in the goalie market. I'd have confidence that if Greiss falters, Mason is a better bet to be a 1A than Turco is at this point.

Guy gets no love and while he's not flashy, he's not unreliable either.

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With every due respect if we're going to pay out $3m for a goalie, I'd rather us go for Chris Mason than Marty Turco.

He was good for 60 games on a moderate St Louis side last year and threatens to get crowded out in the goalie market. I'd have confidence that if Greiss falters, Mason is a better bet to be a 1A than Turco is at this point.

Guy gets no love and while he's not flashy, he's not unreliable either.
He's been better lately, but he used to be a MAJOR headcase no the ice.

One tap in the crease and the guy would just lose it and forget he was a goaltender for the rest of the game. I believe he even saw a sports therapist or something about it a few years back. Remember reading that somewhere.

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http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...urn=nhl,252252

Here's a relevant article by Puck Daddy.

#1. gotta love his first choice.

#2. gotta love the article title ("...you'd actually want on your team").

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http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...urn=nhl,252252

Here's a relevant article by Puck Daddy.

#1. gotta love his first choice.

#2. gotta love the article title ("...you'd actually want on your team").

I think I just threw up in my mouth....Theodore at 4....No wonder, he writes out of Washington DC.

The guy is obviously judging them only on stats, and probably has no idea about how good some of those guys are.

Lalime being on that list over Toskala...wtf


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06-29-2010, 05:46 PM
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I think it's going to be interesting all season..
For what's out there, I like Ellis.
Ain't gonna happen. He just got shipped to Montreal.

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Ain't gonna happen. He just got shipped to Montreal.
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Ain't gonna happen. He just got shipped to Montreal.
I doubt that's an issue at all. Ellis does not want to be a backup, there are other teams where he would be the #1. I highly expect him to still hit FA.

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I think I just threw up in my mouth....Theodore at 4....No wonder, he writes out of Washington DC.

The guy is obviously judging them only on stats, and probably has no idea about how good some of those guys are.

Lalime being on that list over Toskala...wtf
Toskala was simply awful

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06-29-2010, 05:57 PM
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Toskala was simply awful
In what..26 games?

Toskala just needed a divorce from Toronto, as much they needed a divorce from him.

His numbers were bad last year because he was coming off 2 surgeries and thrown into the wolves behind a really bad defence.

In the Month of October the leafs couldn't win a game and played 3 diff goalies.

The best of the three had a 894 sv%.

Take that with a graint of salt.

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In what..26 games?

Toskala just needed a divorce from Toronto, as much they needed a divorce from him.

His numbers were bad last year because he was coming off 2 surgeries and thrown into the wolves behind a really bad defence.

In the Month of October the leafs couldn't win a game and played 3 diff goalies.

The best of the three had a 894 sv%.

Take that with a graint of salt.
So he can go to SJ and its really great defense??

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So he can go to SJ and it's really great defense??

Boyle-Murray
Vlasic-Wallin
Huskins-Demers

Toskala would likely sign for league minimum.

That's between an extra 2-2.5m to spend on that crap defense.

I think it's seriously worth considering. Can always waive him.

I dunno, it really depends on his health, which is the major issue.

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The fact of the matter is that Toskala hasn't really done much to prove he still belongs in the NHL.

Well neither really has Lalime. But at this point Lalime > Toskala.

The UFA goalie pool is not that deep. That's why you have players like Theodore up so high. Most teams already know who their starter will be next year.

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06-29-2010, 06:19 PM
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I think I just threw up in my mouth....Theodore at 4....No wonder, he writes out of Washington DC.

The guy is obviously judging them only on stats, and probably has no idea about how good some of those guys are.

Lalime being on that list over Toskala...wtf
I'd like to know who you'd rather have at #4...

Theodore was amazing last season until the playoffs, he lead his team to the presidents trophy, you seem to dislike stats but how can you ignore a goalie going 37-7.

-ellis is not better, he got beat out of his job by a rookie, and only played 28 games posting mediocre stats in a defense-first system.

niity is definitely not better, biron inconsistent, leighton had pronger and probably wont repeat that year, hedberg is old and career backup- same with lalime.

Toskala probably deserves a spot, but with his recent stats I can see why someone would choose lalime over him. Its been two seasons since he even hit 90% saves.

UFA pool really isn't deep, without considering the tradable halak/vokoun types.

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oh and by the way, ellis-lovers, his rights just got traded to montreal today, and he posted on his twitter that he'd be excited to play for a team with such tradition.

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I'd like to know who you'd rather have at #4...

Theodore was amazing last season until the playoffs, he lead his team to the presidents trophy, you seem to dislike stats but how can you ignore a goalie going 37-7.

-ellis is not better, he got beat out of his job by a rookie, and only played 28 games posting mediocre stats in a defense-first system.

niity is definitely not better, biron inconsistent, leighton had pronger and probably wont repeat that year, hedberg is old and career backup- same with lalime.

Toskala probably deserves a spot, but with his recent stats I can see why someone would choose lalime over him. Its been two seasons since he even hit 90% saves.

UFA pool really isn't deep, without considering the tradable halak/vokoun types.
I had Theo at #4 (my list was without Nabby, so with Nabby #5). Ellis was very close to Rinne, but contracts in Nashville say that Rinne has the job. Biron, Toskala and Lalime were flat out awful last year. With last year's performance, all three should find themselves out of the league. Leighton's track record is horrid. This last year was Leighton's first where he strung together quality games. Nitty strung together 20 starts that were anywhere from good to excellent before he started melting down. Mason was solid and near Ellis in quality. Theo had a run of games where he was very good, but he had a lot of starts where his offense bailed out weak goaltending. Turco was around Leighton in quality. When I went over their stats, all of the extended stuff confirmed my eyeball ratings.

I had the ratings thus, including Nabby:

Nabby
Ellis
Mason
Nitty
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Theo
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Hedberg
Leighton
Auld
Turco
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Toskala
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With every due respect if we're going to pay out $3m for a goalie, I'd rather us go for Chris Mason than Marty Turco.

He was good for 60 games on a moderate St Louis side last year and threatens to get crowded out in the goalie market. I'd have confidence that if Greiss falters, Mason is a better bet to be a 1A than Turco is at this point.

Guy gets no love and while he's not flashy, he's not unreliable either.
Agreed. I think Dan Ellis might be the best bang for the buck, but if the Sharks are willing to spend closer to three, Mason is a far better option that Turco. Plus his beard kicks ass.

Not to mention the fact that I hate Turco's guts.

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I've always liked Mason. Wouldn't mind him as our starter.

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Agreed. I think Dan Ellis might be the best bang for the buck, but if the Sharks are willing to spend closer to three, Mason is a far better option that Turco. Plus his beard kicks ass.

Not to mention the fact that I hate Turco's guts.
look above...Ellis traded to Montreal, next option....

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look above...Ellis traded to Montreal, next option....
Ellis still unsigned by Montreal.

Hamhuis still unsigned by..whoever has his rights today.

Option still open.

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