If a player refuses to report, then the team could void the contract. However, I seriously doubt Redden would do that--I'm sure he would be embarrassed and angry (as he was when he was benched) but I can't imagine giving up that kind of money.
I do not know the specifics of NHL contracts, but the way it works in most contracts is that if one party violates a term, he or she is in breach and the other party then has the right to terminate. I believe that the same principle applies here. In other words, the Rangers would have the right, but it wouldn't happen automatically. (Although how long do you think it would take them to exercise that right in this case?)
Honestly though, if they do demote him, I would imagine that they quickly work out a deal where he can play somewhere in Europe or the KHL. I just don't see them being so cruel as to force him to play the next 4 years in the minors in crappy arenas in front of 2,000 person crowds
I do not know the specifics of NHL contracts, but the way it works in most contracts is that if one party violates a term, he or she is in breach and the other party then has the right to terminate. I believe that the same principle applies here. In other words, the Rangers would have the right, but it wouldn't happen automatically. (Although how long do you think it would take them to exercise that right in this case?)
Honestly though, if they do demote him, I would imagine that they quickly work out a deal where he can play somewhere in Europe or the KHL. I just don't see them being so cruel as to force him to play the next 4 years in the minors in crappy arenas in front of 2,000 person crowds
They probably will, in one way or another, try to exercise a better option for him without harnessing their cap, money, and ultimately, the team.
It's actually a sad state of affairs because even though the guy has turned into a really bad player, he's still a good guy. And he's a regular guy just like us. His skill just deteriorated with age for whatever reason, personal or not. It's not his fault he was offered a massive contract (even though I'm beating the bell hard with that overused statement).
Hypothetically, they could choose to demote him (and let him know), and maybe he'll refuse so the contract can be terminated. He might lose his money, but he won't lose his pride as much I'd say, and he can collectively play elsewhere for a decent salary. Maybe even in the NHL. I wish him the best, but his days are over, and happier I could not be.
They probably will, in one way or another, try to exercise a better option for him without harnessing their cap, money, and ultimately, the team.
It's actually a sad state of affairs because even though the guy has turned into a really bad player, he's still a good guy. And he's a regular guy just like us. His skill just deteriorated with age for whatever reason, personal or not. It's not his fault he was offered a massive contract (even though I'm beating the bell hard with that overused statement).
Hypothetically, they could choose to demote him (and let him know), and maybe he'll refuse so the contract can be terminated. He might lose his money, but he won't lose his pride as much I'd say, and he can collectively play elsewhere for a decent salary. Maybe even in the NHL. I wish him the best, but his days are over, and happier I could not be.
hard to feel to bad for the guy. i mean yea it royally sucks if hes booted out of the league but he is making 6.5 million for how many more years?..poor Wade
hard to feel to bad for the guy. i mean yea it royally sucks if hes booted out of the league but he is making 6.5 million for how many more years?..poor Wade
Money or not - he still has prided himself on being an athlete. And he was a good one at that - and a prized player for a good number of years. Now he is no longer needed, at least as much, and he realizes that.
It's like taking away the car keys to someone who has gained age and is losing eyesight, and when you take away someone's freedom to drive, you take away a lot from them.
They probably will, in one way or another, try to exercise a better option for him without harnessing their cap, money, and ultimately, the team.
It's actually a sad state of affairs because even though the guy has turned into a really bad player, he's still a good guy. And he's a regular guy just like us. His skill just deteriorated with age for whatever reason, personal or not. It's not his fault he was offered a massive contract (even though I'm beating the bell hard with that overused statement).
Hypothetically, they could choose to demote him (and let him know), and maybe he'll refuse so the contract can be terminated. He might lose his money, but he won't lose his pride as much I'd say, and he can collectively play elsewhere for a decent salary. Maybe even in the NHL. I wish him the best, but his days are over, and happier I could not be.
He is just a regular guy who makes a ridiculous amount of money to play a game which he sucks at. I'm sure anyone here would switch situations with him in a second.
He is just a regular guy who makes a ridiculous amount of money to play a game which he sucks at. I'm sure anyone here would switch situations with him in a second.
I'm not going to play wrong guy, right guy here, but that isn't really the point. If you don't understand what I'm explaining then I have a hard time believing you have a rational train of thought.
Wade isn't the victim. Honestly, he knew he wasn't worth the money he was offered. The money that Murray offered him should have been a pretty good clue. Still he had no problem inking that big contract from Sather, and he took it all the same.
Contracts work both ways. Teams are expected to pay money and players are expected to deliver results. Wade hasn't really held up to his end of the bargain so it's his own doing if he needs to play in the minors for the rest of his hockey playing days.
Wade isn't the victim. Honestly, he knew he wasn't worth the money he was offered. The money that Murray offered him should have been a pretty good clue. Still he had no problem inking that big contract from Sather, and he took it all the same.
Contracts work both ways. Teams are expected to pay money and players are expected to deliver results. Wade hasn't really held up to his end of the bargain so it's his own doing if he needs to play in the minors for the rest of his hockey playing days.
It takes two to tango. Someone offered him the contract. Much as I was against signing Redden (I've watched him play his whole career--including his decline in Ottawa), I'm not going to blame him for signing the contract.
For months I've been writing that Redden will play in Europe this year. I suspect the Rangers made it clear to him was probably finished in New York and they were not buying his contract out. That leaves Hartford and Europe as options. I suspect Wade and his agent have been looking for a comfortable landing spot where the Rangers will assign him similar to what they did with Kaspar. Once he is waived, his contract can be assigned just about anywhere. He'll find a cushy landing spot in Sweden or the KHL.
For months I've been writing that Redden will play in Europe this year. I suspect the Rangers made it clear to him was probably finished in New York and they were not buying his contract out. That leaves Hartford and Europe as options. I suspect Wade and his agent have been looking for a comfortable landing spot where the Rangers will assign him similar to what they did with Kaspar. Once he is waived, his contract can be assigned just about anywhere. He'll find a cushy landing spot in Sweden or the KHL.
Does he really strike you as a guy who would go live in Russia or Sweden to play hockey? I'm sure him and his wife and his family have roots/connections/family in this country and I don't see him relocating to Europe just to go play in some lesser league with his damaged ego... He has never played in Europe at any point in his past career... I don't think money would motivate him to do that as he made something like $16 mil over the last 2 seasons....
But I agree with what you said in that if the Rangers made up their mind what they were doing with him, they definitely would notify him as early as possible about their intentions....
Been said 100 times already that if Redden declines his assignment to Hartford, the Rangers can terminate the remainder of his contract.
Redden has 4 years remaining on his deal. 23M owed. 6.5M 6.5M 5M 5M.
He'll be 37 when his contract expires. These last 4 years are it for Wade.
Is he going to get his fat money in Hartford? Or is he willing to take less, and continue playing at the NHL level. I strongly believe he can get something like 3/10M in an open market. How much pride does Wade have? . . . ()
I'd take the money. Deep down inside, everyone here probably would. Compliance buyout is how we'll make Wade dissapear forever. Let's hope the players union has another round when the new CBA is negotiated.
It takes two to tango. Someone offered him the contract. Much as I was against signing Redden (I've watched him play his whole career--including his decline in Ottawa), I'm not going to blame him for signing the contract.
And he can't blame anyone for dumping him, so what's the problem really?
Wade would get slaughtered in Europe, just as McCabe was. His skating isn't good enough.
After reading Brooks' article in this mornings paper, it seems like he thinks Redden will be waived. Also can see Torts' quote as implying it as well.
I'm not sure how to use quotes well on the board yet, but here's a shot:
Quote:
When defenseman Wade Redden is waived during the camp and other summer charges are dropped at the end of September, the Blueshirts should go into the season with between 6.5M-8M of cap space ...
As for Torts quote:
Quote:
"Guys will have to earn their ice time and their spot in the lineup no matter who they are."
I know he's said it in the past, but the fact that he's still stating this in the middle of the summer makes me think that he's pretty intent on enforcing it more after last year's failure.
I honestly don't know what kind a person Wade is. Maybe he will not feel embarrassed at all by playing in Harford for the money that he is making just to make Rangers management angrier.
I honestly don't know what kind a person Wade is. Maybe he will not feel embarrassed at all by playing in Harford for the money that he is making just to make Rangers management angrier.
Put it this way. Wade was asked to waive his NTC in Ottawa, yet refused to, despite management making it very clear they didn't want him there.
It would be like Kotalik not waiving his for us last season.
If Wade can stick around knowing he's clearly not wanted in Ottawa, then he'll probably have no problem playing in Hartford for 6.5M.
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