I've always liked Dustin Boyd. He was one of my favorite players on Canada's 2006 WJC team along with Dave Bolland. At the time I think he was projected to be a 2nd line centre in the NHL, but he has yet to translate that offence to the NHL. He got 60 pts in 66 games in the AHL in 2007.
He's played 71 & 78 NHL games over the last two seasons and has scored 11 goals in both seasons and has gotten 22 and 24 points, respectively.
He doesn't turn 24 until July 16 (he's only 8 months older than SK), and I think his potential is 12-18 goals a year, 25-38 pts, depending on injuries, etc.
He's a gritty kid with good size and speed. He's definitely a better option than Metro on the 4th line. He also has pretty good vision and under-rated passing skills. I think there's better potential there than people are giving him credit for.
Everywhere I've read says Boyd is a RFA and not a UFA.
With Boyd and Eller, suddenly, our centre postion is younger and more talented than last year's. I'll take Eller over Moore, and Boyd over Metro any day.
Last year, our bottom 6 forwards killed us. So many games lost. I'm thrilled to see PG doing something about that.
I like this move by gauthier, even though I think that S.Kost will turn into a very good player (wether it's with Nashville or even further down the road remains to be seen).
Sergei is the best asset in the deal, but given his situation over here, getting a return like that is very solid.
I've followed Boyd for a while, being that he was Calgary's only half decent prospect for a few years. He's been a bit of a disappointment, production-wise, but he's a guy that has improved every year (even if not on the score sheet). By this season, he was a solid all-around player, very good skater, good on the pk, not big but doesn't shy away when the game gets physical.
IMO he's pretty much a clone of Moore... but a few years younger, which on the positive side, means that he's still very cheap, on the negative side, he doesn't quite have the experience/confidence to be counted on to produce offensively.
in fact, i was pissed about the moore deal (and what we traded for him) in part because of what it cost for Nashville to get Boyd (4th round pick), since I saw the difference between the two as being pretty minimal.
If he gets a chance, he will be a very solid bottom six player for us. Although he's young, his versatility and willingness to commit to defensive hockey should encourage Martin to use him.
his upside may not be as big as Sergei, but his downside is better (hard not to be when competing with a head case/healthy scratch)
Ellis, imo, is a zero at this point unless we sign him...
getting his negotiation rights 2 days before July 1st is not a bad thing, but doesn't really have any value (i don't think any teams would have traded anything for him).
IF he is willing to come in as the #2, and sign for #2 money (even high end #2 money, = or >2M$) then he's a great addition. He's a guy i thought would be great to have backing up Price, but I doubt that he signs here when there are so many places looking for a #1 and who would be willing to offer him more $$ and better odds of being the go-to-guy.
so I see it as S.Kost for Boyd at this point... which is still pretty good.
that won't change a bit for me if Sergei goes on to play to his potential. That has nothing to do with Gauthier. The team either didn't do a good job of bringing him along (Martin/Carbo/Gainey bear the responsibility for that) or he really was just too much of a head case...
anyhow, good asset move by Gauthier... this is the kind of thing we need more of!!!
Moore was valuable in getting the Habs into the playoffs and valuable in getting them as far as the ECF. The second rounder in 1011 will be made up for by the compensation for Fischer,
lol c'mon bud, it seems like you're just trying to look for negatives.
Look at this positively. I like Moore a lot, but Boyd will likely be cheaper and he's also a pretty effective 3rd liner. He also has more offensive potential than Moore.
Hopefully we can sign both Ellis and Boyd!
Yeah I know.....that's my mood today. I don't mind the trade that much. Just pissed off we weren't able to make another youngster flourish once again. Not at all saying it was SOLELY our fault....but we played a big part in it.
Boyd has more potential than Moore. As far as what we saw on the ice so far, Moore is more effective. Boyd could finally get it. He's still young. You have to wonder though, based on McKenzie column on it....if Nashville didn't want to "have" to pay 1 M$ for Boyd on bottom 6 role....why would we? Or do the Habs think Boyd could play a role in the....top 6? If so, why didn't Nashville think that way as well?
If Habs can sign Boyd, great trade! I too doubt Ellis would be the perfect complement to Price. It's time for the organization to give their #1 goalie an experienced backup who will accept his role and support Carey.
I guess if we can't keep either one of Boyd/Ellis, the future considerations would be a pick. 2nd rounder? 3rd?
It's not. Read closer. I said that trading Halak was to give a chance at #1 to Price but if he is outplayed by someone else it makes the trade look worse. Which isn't bad for the team or fans at all, just for Gauthier who gambled on dealing away Halak. Simmer down!
Halak wasn't just given away. The return looks prety good.
Ellis has a career .912 save percentage...same as Price. Does that make him any more or less of a backup than Carey?
Ellis is a solid guy, and someone we can fall back to if Price falters. According to their board, he's a #1, and pretty much other fanbases who coveted him (San Jose) think so too. He's inconsistent though.
He hasn't even signed yet, can we wait until he at least does before doing this again.
Seems Boyd is a UFA. The fact that he was part of the deal suggests Montréal has interest in him. So, given that he was about 2 days away from praying he'll get a phone call, his rights now belong to a team that may have traded something of little value to them, but they still wanted him. Should be a good sign for Boyd.
You lost me here. That's like saying if I bought a shovel for $30, traded the shovel a few months later for an axe, and then traded the axe in for a case of beer.....the case of beer cost me $30 plus a shovel plus an axe. That logic has some serious flaws.
As far as hockey is concerned, my thought was that we got Moore for a 2nd round pick not only in order to use him for the remaining games in last year's season, but to use him for the upcoming years as well. Now, that we know that he totally fits the bill of what Martin's system is, you'd think we'd sign him. But now, comes the Boyd deal who "might", if it didn't work, means the return of Moore. We are talking about 3rd line centerman here or something close to it. And knowing, as the deal states, that we give a 5th rounder for any signings we'd made, we, in the end, decides for Boyd instead of Moore. And send away picks as well.
In the end, "IF" it comes between the 2, you deal a guy good enough to be add for a 2nd round pick, for a guy not good enough to be qualified by the Preds. It can change all up if Boyd is "Latendressing" himself in Montreal. But as of now, I prefer Moore's speed to Martin's system to Boyd "potential" we are still waiting to see.
All depends of the value of the object/person. You'd trade a 75$ axe for a 19,99$ case of beer.....I'd be willing to deal with you any day of the week...